Open thread for guests and members to post on the BOINC PENTATHLON. This is a link to the Teams Page (http://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/teams.php) and General Information (http://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/22_en_Welcome.html).
Collatz Conjecture has been chosen as the GPU project from the 07 - 12 May so it will be concurrent with Rosetta. See this link http://www.seti-germany.de/blog/category/boinc-pentathlon/
The 3rd project of the BOINC Pentathlon in the discipline Showbag is:
World Community Grid
All credits granted between
05/10/2012, 0.00 (UTC) and
05/15/2012, 0.00 (UTC) will be taken into the BOINC Pentathlon validation. Please note that pending credits cannot be taken into account! The statistics for this project can be found at
http://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/statistiken/challenge.php?challengeid=3.
WCG goes from 10 - 15 May.
So WCG starts as soon as Rosetta finishes. Hmm, this is a strange system, if Pentathlon runs until the 18th and all projects have a 5 day runtime then 3 CPU projects will be overlapping in the last week. Still, Australians are traditionally at home in the water so no trouble for us to be shooting and swimming at the same time while on horseback.;D
So Rosetta is up first starting at 05/05/2012, 0.00 (UTC).
What would that be in East Australia time?
Den.
That's about 10am Sydney time Saturday. If you press the home button at the top of the page there is a countdown in the news section.
Well that was good timing, SIMAP is out of work so I have switched to Rosetta.
I've chosen 1 hour runtime as this has given me the best Rosetta credit in the past. Makes it easier for changeover to WCG too. Have kept cache small as they want results back quickly for CASP 10 workunits.* Had to uninstall theSkyNet for 5 days because hard disk started to thrash due to big memory Rosetta tasks, one task was using 763MB!
I will choose a zero redundancy project for WCG so there will be no pending.
Good luck and good crunching to all Pentathletes.:thumbsup:
*CASP 10, a community wide experiment in structure prediction starts tomorrow on May 1st and runs to August 1st. During this time we will be using BOINC heavily for structure prediction. If your work unit starts with the label rb you're running a CASP 10 target! rb is short for Robetta which is our publicly available server for structure prediction....for CASP we need results back within a day or two, as our approach is iterative: we analyze the results after one day and send out another set of wu based on these results for two days of computing, then collect the results and submit to CASP. so please do set your buffer to a shorter time, and let us know if you are running out of wu. thanks!
which projects are zero redundancy?
FightAIDS@Home
Help Fight Childhood Cancer
The Clean Energy Project - Phase 2
Computing for Clean Water
Computing for Sustainable Water
FAAH
HFCC
CEP2
C4CW
CFSW
An observation on Rosetta.
Rosetta work units in Windows on my i7 windows 7/Vista 64 bit PC's are always granted less than claimed but on my two Q6600's Linux 64 bit PC's they are always granted more than claimed.
Windows is getting between 19 -20 credits per work unit per hour
Linux is getting between 23 - 27 credits per work unit per hour.
Currently in 14th place. (http://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/statistiken/pentathlon.php)
Dropped to 17 th position now. Not too bad as there is under 100 members participating, but they don't know it's on most probably as few members use the forum.
This is painful. It might be a pentathlon but it is fast becoming a COMPUTATIONAL ERROR- LON.
My 32 bit Win 7 machine crashes out with every WU.
My Q6600 64 bit Win 7 is starting to settle down but has had its share of crashes.
My I7 3930 64 bit Win 7 was going OK with only a few crashes but now I am trying fun Collatz on my twin GPU, all the WUs for Rosetta are finishing then crashing.
This sort of thing
6/05/2012 8:53:31 AM | rosetta@home | Computation for task ab_11_29__optpps_T5531_optpps_03_09_35686_260753_0 finished
6/05/2012 8:53:31 AM | rosetta@home | Output file ab_11_29__optpps_T5531_optpps_03_09_35686_260753_0_0 for task ab_11_29__optpps_T5531_optpps_03_09_35686_260753_0 absent
6/05/2012 8:54:05 AM | rosetta@home | Computation for task ab_11_29__optpps_T5311_optpps_03_09_35686_260753_0 finished
6/05/2012 8:54:05 AM | rosetta@home | Output file ab_11_29__optpps_T5311_optpps_03_09_35686_260753_0_0 for task ab_11_29__optpps_T5311_optpps_03_09_35686_260753_0 absent
always the same error no matter which machine.
Trolled through Rosetta's boards looking for a solution and there doesn't appear to be a fix. Lots of crunchers have given up and gone elsewhere as this has been going on for 3 months now.
The opsys says he thinks it is either BOINC 7.0.XX series and has suggested we go back to 6.10.xx or maybe it is the GPUs.
Now running just Rosetta (16 threads). Will see what happens today. It either improves or I am out of here.
The only machine working without any problem is my IMAC.
:furious: :furious: Bashhead
Morning LawryB
Sorry to hear about your machiines crashing, are you still using 7.0.24 by chance on your machines? Some other projects are reporting issues with 7.0.24 and advising to upgrade to 7.0.26, which may solve the problem, but then again it could be a different problem thats hitting your computers.
I have not much else to help you with, as I am running Rosetta in my Linux VM and its still using BOINC version 6 trunk. My windows is running BOINC 7.0.26, but its in standby awaiting for the next project to crunch in the Pentathalon (I did run some Collatz on Friday night it they ran well and validated).
This information may or may not help, but I hope it does for someone.
Happy Crunching
Regards
Tazzduke
Hi Tazzduke and thanks. Running 7.0.25 and now swapping up to 7.0.27 on the 64 bit and back to 6.10.whatever on the 32bit machines.
7.0.26 I think addressed the High Priority issue of previous versions.
Rosetta is looking OK as long as it is the only BOINC project I am running but that sort of defeats the purpose of 6 cores (12 threads) and my dual GPUs.
I'll have a bit of a play when the Penthalon has finished and see what happens.
Cheers
I'm starting to have problems with Rosetta also. It hasn't been too bad until today with only every 20th or 30th task erroring after about 20 seconds. But today I have been getting heaps of tasks with huge memory usage. Hard disk is thrashing away quite often. I'll drop down to 5 cores and see if that works. If not I'll turn off hyperthreading, that should fix it. I'll be glad when it's time to switch to WCG, haha now there's a change.;D
Hi Lawry,
Same thing happened to me I went to bed atfter 3am, then woke only recently to find a full cache of Computation error's. The strange thing is they just sat there all night & didn't report. Also my GPU tasks were still running fine. Anyway I re-started the machine & all seems now well. What I did notice though was the rossetta 64bit science app had to be re-downloaded with the extra WU's. It's my OC 'd i7 920 running Boinc ver.7.0.26 that "had" (touch wood) the problems. My old pentium D that I use maily only for challenges & AA,s has no such problems. The i7 runs win7 x64 & the PentD runs Win7 32 bit & the same Boinc ver 7.0.26 only 32 bit of coarse.
Not a good look in the middle of a challenge hey??
Anyone know the DL address for Boinc ver. 7.0.27 ?
I seem to have a hoodoo on my main machine, but mainly only during challenges & AA's. As homer would say "doohhh"..
:compbash:
Cheers ..JN..
I am running 7.025 BOINC and the only problem I have had is that Rosetta is not just sending one hour work units. My work goes from on to four hours and it uses more and more memory as it goes. On my Q6600 with only 2 Gig Ram it only runs three tasks instead of four. I have not seen many error but there has been a couple but not many.
Back to WCG soon.
My old e8200 seems to be running fine but I am having that problem on my GF's i5 laptop (win 64bit boinc 7.025). Seems about 50% of them are getting Compute error. Was wonding why I wasn't getting credits.
G'day Jugnut
Try http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D (http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D) for all BOINC downloads
Thanks Lawry, will give that a crack.
Yea the wheels seem to have fallen off our challenge bid so far don't they? But it's still early days I suppose.
(looks for old retired p4's in back of cupboard) :rofl:
Cheers & Happy crunching ..JN..
PS. Back up 1 position to 16th place..
The majority of my Rosetta tasks are finishing at slightly before or slightly after the 1 hour I set. I had a few this morning though that went for about 2 hours before the watchdog timer stopped them. They used a gigantic amount of memory at times so I aborted with extreme prejudice another 7 of that type, 6 in my cache and 1 that had been running for 7 minutes. They were secY_hybrid ones.
I am still using 6 cores, get a bit of disk thrashing sometimes when I open a browser or do anything, but if I leave it alone it is not too bad. It just depends if I get a batch of the higher memory usage tasks running at the same time. This morning I had one that maxed out at 1.6GB. :shock
Was getting a few that errored after 20 seconds and 3 that errored after 15 minutes but haven't had any error tasks recently.
I have often had trouble with Rosetta over the years, my first BOINC computer had insufficient memory to run it at all, my second computer also could not run it due to excessive error rate and my third current computer has run it successfully in the past but is currently struggling sometimes due to high memory tasks.
The last 2 projects which run concurrently from May 14-19 are QMC@HOME and yoyo@home.
Not two projects that members normally crunch as seen by the stats. I guess all we can do is try.
I have my two duel 5800 series ATI GPU's running Collatz as well as running rosetta. This is where 64 bit and 6 gig of memory works out well, more memory might be even better.
Yes I haven't contributed to either of those projects in a fair while. I'll choose QMC@HOME I think and see if I can get my 475K up to 500K. Can't remember if it processed faster on Windows or Linux. Suppose I'll try a bit of both and see for myself.;D
I have 3 compute errors so far, 2 very short ones under 25 seconds and one at 1,367.49 seconds.
Den.
Was it just me, or did the forum go down for 12+ hours?
Yes the data base went down and needed to be rebuilt.
World Community Grid come at me :mwalk:
Looks like we finished in 18th place with 120 points overall. Well done team :cheer1: v: :rocks
http://www.seti-germany.de/boinc_pentathlon/statistiken/pentathlon.php
I'll second that Dingo. And when you consider It was all done with as little as 12 - 25 B@A'ers most times, we did great.
Actually, I think we did a flippin awesome job...
Congratz to all.. :congrats :congrats :congrats
:rocks
Happy Crunching ..JN..
Hopefully this becomes a yearly event :thumbsup: :rocks
Was there stats on our individual members, was just wondering how I went?
Did lose around 6 hours on yoyo, way too early in the morning when I added it, forgot to add the team, not sure how much I lost before I realised.
Den.