(Theme from "Jaws" playing in the background) ... Just when you finally figured all the absurdities of Win 10, along comes ...
WINDOWS 11
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/windows-11
Abandon hope ye who enter here.
:greet
Wow, just hype. Not even ready yet!
Also, note that TPM is a minimum system requirement.
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Apparently there are Win 11 free downloads on the internet but I couldn't find one that worked. People have certainly posted videos of their own installations in use. Linus Tech Tips (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qFCeCPpfnhQ) has videos. This one post the MS announcement.
Yep just another layer of lipstick on a pig :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Quote from: tazzduke on June 25, 2021, 07:43:30 PM
Yep just another layer of lipstick on a pig :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
I humbly disagree. :jester: I think this pig has rabies! I checked 4 of my Dell SFF and USFF (e.g. i7-3770S, etc.) Win10 machines and NONE are Win11 compatible. :shock
Either MS is going to have to support two parallel platforms for a long time or a lot of PC users will be learning LINUX. There are still a significant number of users running older machines running specialized apps (like us for example) and the refurbished PC market is huge (just look on eBay). In light of a worldwide chip shortage this strategy makes no sense to me (but few things do these days :rofl: )
I have 23 Win10 machines so I guess I will (eventually) have to check them all and convert the incompatible ones to Ubuntu.
:cry
Addendum: From Tom's Hardware:
"Microsoft told Tom's Hardware that all Windows 11 PC's will require TPM - even if they were built by the user. Additionally, the company has published three lists of supported processors: one each for Intel, AMD and Qualcomm.
Notably, it cuts off at 8th Gen Intel Core processors and 2nd Gen AMD, leaving a number of still otherwise good processors out in the cold. It isn't entirely clear if older CPUs that otherwise meet the minimum specification requirements may be allowed to upgrade with a warning."
MS will support Win10 only until 10/2025. :thumbdown:
Quote from: Dataman on June 26, 2021, 12:28:06 AM
I think this pig has rabies! I checked 4 of my Dell SFF and USFF (e.g. i7-3770S, etc.) Win10 machines and NONE are Win11 compatible. :shock
Either MS is going to have to support two parallel platforms for a long time or a lot of PC users will be learning LINUX. There are still a significant number of users running older machines running specialized apps (like us for example) and the refurbished PC market is huge (just look on eBay). In light of a worldwide chip shortage this strategy makes no sense to me (but few things do these days :rofl: )
I have 23 Win10 machines so I guess I will (eventually) have to check them all and convert the incompatible ones to Ubuntu.
:cry
Addendum: From Tom's Hardware:
"Microsoft told Tom's Hardware that all Windows 11 PC's will require TPM - even if they were built by the user. Additionally, the company has published three lists of supported processors: one each for Intel, AMD and Qualcomm. Notably, it cuts off at 8th Gen Intel Core processors and 2nd Gen AMD, leaving a number of still otherwise good processors out in the cold. It isn't entirely clear if older CPUs that otherwise meet the minimum specification requirements may be allowed to upgrade with a warning."
MS will support Win10 only until 10/2025. :thumbdown:
Couldn't agree with you more Dataman. Just shut a website explaining TPM and other Win11 requirements. It will have users looking for alternatives. Particularly considering how cheap some of the older commercial stuff is these days. Can't wait for Dual, 64 core Epyc CPU based systems to be offloaded. :love
Otherwise, very annoying.
Just for fun, I downloaded an pre-release copy from Pirate Bay. Made a new VM in Virtualbox.
One thing I did notice, was that updates are checked for AND installed during the installation procedure. Oh dear. When you are doing multiple installs, I don't know if you can turn this feature "off".
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Quote from: jave808 on June 26, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Just for fun, I downloaded an pre-release copy from Pirate Bay. Made a new VM in Virtualbox.
One thing I did notice, was that updates are checked for AND installed during the installation procedure. Oh dear. When you are doing multiple installs, I don't know if you can turn this feature "off".
Wow you are good, jave. :congrats +1 Kinda looks like a MAC layout.
The only new feature in this release that interests me ( I cannot get real excited about rounded corners :rofl: ) is the ability to run native Android apps in Win11. Have you tried to download and run an Android app from the MS store?
:cheers:
Quote from: jave808 on June 26, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Just for fun, I downloaded a pre-release copy from Pirate Bay. Made a new VM in Virtualbox.
Jave, do you have a link? I couldn't find it on the Pirate Bay website.
Quote from: Mike Mitchell on June 27, 2021, 09:42:56 AM
Quote from: jave808 on June 26, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Just for fun, I downloaded a pre-release copy from Pirate Bay. Made a new VM in Virtualbox.
Jave, do you have a link? I couldn't find it on the Pirate Bay website.
Try [link remove by jave808]
Quote from: jave808 on June 26, 2021, 09:34:52 PM
Try https://thepiratebay.org/description.php?id=47120791
I tried that link and just got a download of a PDF extension for Chrome which I did not download????
Are you using an ad blocker? A lot of the download buttons on sites like that are generally ads pretending to be legit. Ad blockers generally clear that up so you can see where to actually download the torrent file (and then open that in your torrent app).
Dingo,
Best clean this thread up, move all requests to Direct messages, cannot be to careful these days.
Might I also suggest to use a VPN before downloading.
Cheers
Meh, Windows 11. I see no reason to upgrade.
I don't know what TPM is but I'll just stick with Win 10 even if it's not supported. I stuck with Windows 7 for years after it wasn't supported.
It's pretty bad if what I read is correct and older PC's aren't supported. That's ridiculous!
You can't FORCE people to buy new hardware.... and I ain't learning Linux!
Early days I guess.
Quote from: tazzduke on June 27, 2021, 06:59:51 PM
Dingo,
Best clean this thread up, move all requests to Direct messages, cannot be to careful these days.
Might I also suggest to use a VPN before downloading.
Cheers
I have a VPN on my machines and phone at home.
Yeah, sorry guys. No malice intended. Pirate Bay can be nasty. I guess I'm used to my Linux PC!
Another way of getting Windows 11. This is the latest dev version.
https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/clean-install-windows-11
Quote from: jave808 on August 11, 2021, 08:06:08 PM
Another way of getting Windows 11. This is the latest dev version.
https://www.tomshardware.com/how-to/clean-install-windows-11
Interesting that it has an ARM version of Windows 11. When I am bored one day might give it a go, but have to see how big the storeage has to be ??
There is an easy work around so you don't have to worry about TPM or a Directx12 GPU. Do a search and you can find how people are installing on everything that Windows 10 runs on.
Windows 11 is after all just windows 10 with a few mods to make it look different. Underneath it is still the same.
My WIN10 laptop windows update asked me to download and install Windows 11 tonight. I asnewed NO.
It is the only Windows machine I have a key for, so the only legal copy.
It's funny how nearly all of my PC's now say they aren't compatible with Windows 11 :rofl:
I'm not worried. I'll probably stay with Win 10 for ages.
Thought this was a balanced review including how to bypass TPM requirements. I will stay with Win10 until they release support for native Android apps.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/04/cnn-underscored/windows-11-review/index.html
:greet