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Project Update
« on: July 29, 2013, 09:52:17 PM »

I've been away from the forums - just noticed this - thanks to everyone for all of the karma! 

I think I got to the first million in 2009 or so, after starting on the original SETI in 1999.  With GPUs these days, it's all a bit like monopoly money  biggrin

I must say that I've been a bit disappointed at the quality of projects (worthwhile-ness of science) for AMD cards since POEM went on a diet and WCG GPU projected ended. I hope to find more worthwhile things to spend my power bills on than primegrid, collatz, einstein and milkyway.  I've also been feeling conflicted at having distrrtgen as backup project for poem on AMD cards (seduced by the credit >:D)- I'm sure their motives are good but doubt that will apply to the users of their "research".  So I'm actually in the process of trying out my AMD cards on folding@home - good science, and can really give the team a boost over there!
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PS It's good to see the team moving up the BOINC rankings again - 18 and rising!
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #1 on: July 30, 2013, 09:54:53 AM »

So I'm actually in the process of trying out my AMD cards on folding@home - good science, and can really give the team a boost over there!

I have never given folding@home a shot, I might do that now. :thumbsup:
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #2 on: July 30, 2013, 02:06:37 PM »

Yes I do a couple of work units every now and again on Folding just so the Team has some credit coming in.  Too bad they are not a BOINC project but as you said very good science.
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #3 on: July 30, 2013, 02:26:18 PM »

A Big welcome to dyeman who has joined the Folding Team and rocketed to second place in the Team on Folding.  :congrats :congrats

http://folding.extremeoverclocking.com/user_list.php?s=&t=43781

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Re: Project Update
« Reply #4 on: July 30, 2013, 10:18:05 PM »

So I'm actually in the process of trying out my AMD cards on folding@home - good science, and can really give the team a boost over there!

I have never given folding@home a shot, I might do that now. :thumbsup:
FAH is in the process of introducing a new OpenCL client for AMD cards that seems to work much faster than its predecessor (at least on HD 7xxx GCN cards).  It's in post-beta final testing and you need to specify "client-type advanced"  for the moment to get the new WUs.  Prior to that it looks like nvidia cards were much better suited, now they seem to be much more on a par.

Doing some reading it looks like Folding and Seti tried to collaborate on the design and development of BOINC in 2005-6 but in the end must have had some disagreements and went their separate ways.  You can still see some common terminology (WU, Slot).  Anyway it is a bit of a learning experience!  So far my nvidia cards all work fine but my HD6870 only works on "old" WUs, and one of my HD 7xxx cards refuses to process "old" WUs but is fine on "new" WUs (which is not a problem unless "new" WUs aren't available, which has happened only once in the week since I started).

Sorry for going off topic - feel free to more to Folding@Hometopics.  Anyway team position is 14,000 or thereabouts so there's plenty of scope for improvement!
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #5 on: July 30, 2013, 10:41:32 PM »

Thanks Dingo, I think you fixed my problem of not knowing what our team number is.  :thumbsup:
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #6 on: July 30, 2013, 11:12:41 PM »

The core 17 8900 tasks take 22 hours on my 5870. For a GPU task that's too long, even without considering the fan whine all night.

I would crunch them only in the daytime but I lose bonus points. Better suited to more recent cards which must be the idea I suppose. Ah well, at least I gave it a go.

What's up with that web interface on first startup, how annoying is that when you're trying to add slot options switches, haha.>:D
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #7 on: July 31, 2013, 01:10:50 AM »

Greetings All

Whilst I ponder which way to head with my GPU on BOINC, thouhgt I would push a few Folding@Home workunits through for a couple of days.

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Re: Project Update
« Reply #8 on: July 31, 2013, 01:39:02 AM »

Good folding.:thumbsup:

Don't forget to edit your GPU slot with client-type advanced to receive core 17 tasks and enter your passkey to receive bonus credit.

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Re: Project Update
« Reply #9 on: July 31, 2013, 02:49:10 PM »

Good folding.:thumbsup:

Don't forget to edit your GPU slot with client-type advanced to receive core 17 tasks and enter your passkey to receive bonus credit.




Just added client-type advanced but in the middle of doing work unit so see if it makes a diff on the next ones.  Thanks
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #10 on: July 31, 2013, 05:28:44 PM »

Dyeman -  You are certainly motoring along here in Folding.  You have added as much credit in one day that I have done in years and certainly getting good credit per work unit.  :congrats :congrats

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Re: Project Update
« Reply #11 on: July 31, 2013, 09:23:15 PM »

Yes great work dyeman, folding up a storm there.:thumbsup: Hope you find it more personally rewarding to use watts to fold for a cure even if it isn't BOINC, rather than crack codes.

Think I need to clean the fan on my card. Had a blue screen graphics driver reset and then the task hung and would not proceed. Had to shutdown FahCore in Task Manager and wait a long time after restart for it to reconnect. But the 8900 task finally finished and granted 6,000 base points and 9,816 QRB for a grand total of 15,816. v:
Not QCN card performance but still that's heaps more than I used to get on a CPU.

You need to do 10 QRB type tasks on your passkey before you qualify for bonus points.

FAHControl estimates your points including QRB based on average TPF anyway, but if you'd like to see how QRB works and play with the possibilities you can check out Folding@home Bonus Point Calculator Just select your task type from the drop down box, enter your TPF and press the Calculate button.

Hmm, 7790s are only $145, use relatively little power and score reasonably on FAHBench. Perhaps you could get 30,000-40,000 a day on one without sending the power bill too high. No match for a Tahiti card of course but much cheaper to purchase and run. Anyone who's well read on graphics card reviews know which brand/model is a super quiet 7790?

 
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #12 on: July 31, 2013, 11:26:16 PM »

I have a Sapphire HD7790 Dual-X OC which has a large heatsink and 2 fans - certainly runs very cool so the fans aren't working hard ($155 at umart + $15 postage - might be cheaper at msy).  Even a 7770 beats a 6870 at crunching and probably uses half the power.  7790 is close to a 7850 in performance, and power is barely more than a 7770.  With this card and GPU-z there is a new sensor which appears to be an instantaneous readout of actual power consumption.  When crunching (at least folding) it seems to sit between 55 and 65 watts - amazing if you ask me!  That means that a 7790 does around twice the crunching of a 6870 at close to half the power consumption.  I figured the 7790 would close to pay for itself in a year in reduced power bills if replacing a 6870 (which it will be doing - second one should arrive tomorrow).  Nvidia Keplers also seem pretty good points per watt - 660 does maybe up to 30% more points than a 7790 or 7850 (rough guess) but certainly woud use a lot more power than the 7790.

Good to see a bit of action - team has moved up around 2500 places in the last couple of weeks (maybe should do the next AA on F@H biggrin)
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Re: Project Update
« Reply #13 on: August 01, 2013, 07:12:02 AM »

Fantastic, thanks very much for that dyeman, reviews can vary and personal crunching specific experience is much more helpful. :thumbsup: +1

I didn't know you already had a 7790,  my conjecture on them being power/cost efficient for folding has been nicely verified. Just did some further reading and found where someone is getting 37K PPD on 8900 WUs. That power draw is excellent and considering power efficiency has become the most important factor to allow continued GPU crunching a 7790 is a great choice. Plus they don't cost much compared to how much my 5870 and 5970 cost. Double win.;D

Core 17 application on AMD/ATI is much better than many other OpenCL GPU applications in that it uses very little CPU resources. I like that.

I've been a bit disappointed with having to cut GPU crunching down to almost zero for power reasons. CPU crunching is fine and there are lots of interesting and useful projects to choose but it doesn't have the same appeal for me as GPU crunching. The increased efficiency, the tinkering with configuration, the reading up on latest applications and most efficient drivers and all that stuff inspires me. Plus I enjoy conversing with other GPU crunchers when I have time. Of course roaring up the charts with a GPU is always good fun too, haha.

Sapphire HD7790 Dual-X OC is go. Save some 8900s for me, I'm a coming.:crazy

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Re: Project Update
« Reply #14 on: August 01, 2013, 09:36:59 AM »


Thanks Dyeman/Kashi.  Need to replace my ATI 68XX cards so I can get some sleep.  Got a couple of 79xx cards, 1 still in box but the 7790s have great reviews and as you say great power consumption makes them almost a must as does their price.
Karma to you both for the information.
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