Ahh, the dedicated crew of skynetters.
I thought I'd start a new threat to mark our progress in the Alliances ladder
I was keeping a spreadsheet at work and updating it for the past three days and figured I might as well share it in this forum:
Since we nabbed position 7 from Curtin IT Services earlier this week, it doesn't look likely they'll reclaim their spot.
L'Alliance Francophone are in position 31 with 37,656 credits.
United States Alliance is currently in position 6 and we're in position 7.
25/10/11: United States Alliance had 194,385, B@A had 158,169, difference = 36,216
26/10/11: United States Alliance had 198,387, B@A had 162,771, difference = 35,616 (gain of 600)
27/10/11: United States Alliance had 202,962, B@A had 167,048, difference = 35,914 (loss of 298)
(Statistics captured at 9:00am every morning the moment I step foot in the office)
I've only kept stats for three days, so for the moment, it's difficult to project if/when we'll hit position 6.
Tin Man and LawryB are back on board and kashi (true to his word and with the help of an upgrade to unlimited internetz like dingo) are flying.
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Haha, it's HokeyWB flying not me. I'm going in dribs and drabs. I had 5 SkyNets running last night until I found them all loafing. So I killed 2 and put another 2 cores on hunting my last WCG bronze. I think about 4 SkyNets is my limit really, with 5 I had no free memory and occasional disk paging. They should release a downloadable multi threaded version with a configurable number of cores for everyone with lower amounts of memory. Save having all those little browser windows open all the time too.
In case you haven't seen it, SkyNet contributor steve_s has a blog about Nereus vs BOINC (http://teawithtux.blogspot.com/2011/10/boinc-or-nereus-v.html). In it there is a link to a memo written by Newman and Tseng from Oxford about Cloud Computing and the Square Kilometre Array (http://www.skatelescope.org/uploaded/8762_134_Memo_Newman.pdf).
As steve_s points out, one of the major drawbacks of Nereus compared to BOINC, the inability to cache work, is not mentioned. Another thing not mentioned is the large data usage of SkyNet gobbling up peoples' internet quota. I've noticed it doesn't seem to be using as much now as it did previously, I think they changed something. It's been going quite hard a lot of the time for the last few days on 3, 4 and 5 instances and it's only downloaded 3GB.
It was interesting that Java was actually faster for some applications. However I would like to see some results on how it scales with number of cores. With some BOINC project applications it is more efficient to run with 6 or 7 cores rather than 8. This is due to cache/memory contention losses particularly with hyperthreading. I remember one PrimeGrid subproject where output was the same with hyperthreading turned off. In other words, with 4 cores each core was twice as fast as with 8 cores. As less power was used with hyperthreading turned off, hyperthreading was less efficient in this case.
Not sure which alliance rocketed up the ladders over the long Melbourne Cup weekend, but we've slipped one spot back to 8th with an alliance total of 199,182 credits.
We are slowly gaining ground on United States Alliance (who also slipped a position down to 7th), with the difference down from 36,745 to 33,160 credits.
We also have a new member to theSkyNet B@A alliance, so a warm welcome to northcross.
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Yes, Curtin University installed theSkyNet on lots of their computers and flew up the rankings. BOINC@AUSTRALIA theSkyNet team member RAMen has charted the team rankings here (http://203.0.178.90/%7Eramen/images/skynet_14_teams.png).
I've noticed the SkyNet isn't granting as much credit as before. It is supposed to give 4 credits per hour per application plus 1 credit per 15MB of data. That would be 288 credits per day just for connection on my 3 browser applications. I haven't been getting that much even with data added. Not to worry, it would be affecting everyone the same, I was just expecting my total and the team's to be increasing more rapidly.;D
It doesn't seem to run all that often, probably more than half the time I look it is idle. Bit of a waste of resources but not too bad as on this hyperthreaded CPU my 4 BOINC cores speed up to blazes when theSkyNet is idle. I've got BOINC going half on WCG and half on SIMAP currently. It's running on VirtualBox Linux just in case DNA@Home ever releases any more work.
I wasn't aware of that link from RAMen - but that's an impressive chart.
how did you find out about that link? i can't find RAMen posting anywhere in this forum.
I find that if i have multiple clients open, i have to check that they're actually running by clicking on the 'show your client' button.
sometimes, it may say i'm contributing in the main client window, but 'can't open internet explorer'.
RAMen is a member of the BOINC@AUSTRALIA theSkyNet team but as far as I know he is not a member of the BOINC@AUSTRALIA BOINC team, if that makes any sense. Same applies to Vince. I feel they would qualify but I think currently full membership requires an active BOINC project, not really sure though. Not for me to say, that's a Dingo matter.:) Perhaps they may not wish to be part of the main BOINC team and post here anyway as they are members of other BOINC teams.
The link to RAMen's graph is in a few of his posts on theSkyNet forum.
Yes I always check if I'm connected properly. I'm down to 2 SkyNets today as computer kept crashing while I was trying out one of the team's lower ranking projects. It's not as low ranking now as it was yesterday.:thumbsup:
RAMen is a member of Cruncher Junkies and I think there are a few in the SkyNet Alliance that are part of that BOINC Team. This forum is just for our BOINC Team, as the current rules are that they must be crunching a BOINC project for the Team. We had it open to the world at the beginning but got too many people joining that were not using BOINC at all and just joined the forum to create havoc. Since we have tried to keep it a BOINC only forum things have been more cohesive and friendly and that is the way I like it.
:rocks
Thanks for the explanation. I thought it was something like that. Sounds fair enough to me.:thumbsup:
The Alliance is gradually creaping up on the # 7 spot. We are now only 28,996 away which is about 7000 less than last time I posted about this.
Yep creeping up on 7th, but zooming up on 6th. ICRAR will soon be eating our dust, muhuhaha.>:D
More graphs courtesy of RAMen, these will not be updated daily and I'm not certain how long they will be there:
Difference to US Alliance (http://203.0.178.90/~ramen/images/difference_US_alliance.png)
Difference to ICRAR Alliance (http://203.0.178.90/~ramen/images/difference_ICRAR_alliance.png)
Update:
Since Dingo posted on 05/11/11, we're moved from 28,996 to 18,457 credits away from #7 as at 08/11/11.
Would love to snatch #5, that way, BOINC@Australia will appear on the everyones dashboard (since by default, it only shows the top 5) under Alliances for more exposure :worship
(90,716 credits behind #5)
The Team is now in 7th place on the World Ladder. Great work from the theSkyNet BOINC@AUSTRALIATeam. :rocks
The Team should get into 6th place in the world tonight or tomorrow. We are also catching up to #5 #5 UK Skynet Group with 353720 credits.
Current Alliance:
BOINC@AUSTRALIA
Creation Date: 16th of September, 2011
Total Members: 16
Total Alliance Credits: 284249
#1 kirdnem-vince 81571
#2 Dingo 45758
#3 RAMen 43898
#4 northcross 23342
#5 HokeyWB 15232
#6 redwolf 14544
#7 veebee 13873
#8 LawryB 9898
#9 kashi 9511
#10 Dan 8130
#11 Dennis Newton 7143
#12 Tin Man 6358
#13 neutrinoboy 3118
#14 Grey Shadow 1333
#15 ausdaniel 532
Fantastic work.
Just hit #6 as predicted by Ding o this morning.
ICRAR at #5 is 68,996 credits away and at 2,500 mean gain, all else being equal, #5 position should be about a month away and we'll be visiable on their homepage! :wiggle:
http://203.0.178.90/~ramen/images/difference_ICRAR_alliance.png
Courtesy of RAMen
Great work team, 6th.:thumbsup: :congrats :congrats
Actually it's UK SkyNet Group next in our sights, currently 68,885 points up the road.
http://203.0.178.90/~ramen/images/difference_UK_Skynet_alliance.png
Onward and upwars and thanks to RAAMen for the graphs. UK Skynet Group are #5 and that is where we are want to be, and will be. biggrin
(http://203.0.178.90/~ramen/images/daily_difference_B@A_UK.png)
Good graph.:thumbsup:
I've added another SkyNet instance today after a 50 hour BOINC task finally finished. Now running 5 WCG GFAM and 3 SkyNets; used to keep a core free to reduce contention slowdown and heat but now cooking with gas on all 8 cores. Temp has risen to 80 °C on hottest core, probably my 'sink is full of dust.>:D Time for a clean out soon before summer.
SkyNet's not using nearly as much internet as earlier in its development. I've only used about 3.5GB so far this month. I know there were long idle periods early in the month but even so that's not much compared to before.
May have to reduce SkyNet crunching during the AA and and/or crunch possible AA project in Linux. So will probably increase to 4 SkyNets for the rest of the month after I get my bronze GFAM in pending.
Yes not as much download for me either, just 15 Gig so far. I am running the linux client all all my pc's so I can start and stop the services as required and can see a log of what is happening. Over the weekend there is usually a long time that Skynet does nothing so I stop some of the clients ang increase BOINC. During the AA I will reduce my SkyNet but I have 17 instances of the linux client running of which 15 are running on Widows PC's in VirtualBox. I am trying to cut down on electricity till my bill comes as I have used too much over th last couple months so I am not running any GPU's.
Hopefully by the end of the month we will be a lot closer to 5th place in SkyNet.
A couple of more graphs from RAMen to Team Australia that is in # 3 position.
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The mountain we are climbing presently is a large one I know.
However I was looking at the stats today and did the numbers in the spreadsheet and found a surprising outcome:
It's worth the look.
2 GRAPHS:
http://203.0.178.90/~ramen/images/difference_Australia_alliance.png
http://203.0.178.90/~ramen/images/daily_difference_B@A_Australia.png
Also got a new Trophy today but the new Dashboard says Ihave to wait 13123 credits till the next one. :crazy
The Team is catching up to 5th ploace which will put us on the front page of theSkyNet website. On the 17/11 we were almost 70K behind UK Skynet Group but we are less than 50K today. :cheer1:
(http://203.0.178.90/~ramen/images/daily_difference_B@A_UK.png)
That's good progress.:thumbsup:
I'm down to one instance now, slower but still ticking over. I had 3 running for a fair while but SkyNet processing was on and off like a bride's nightie.;D
Plus I've switched on Constellation seeing as many have started. Windows seems slightly faster than Linux. Linux was doing 4.5 hours per task with 7 cores loaded. Windows does 3.5 hours with 5 cores loaded, 3.9 hours with 6 cores loaded and 4.4 hours with 7 cores loaded. Memory is OK, using less now than it was a week ago. Uses between 50MB and 300MB per task seemingly at random and fluctuates during the tasks as well. Can't work it out, memory is allocated dynamically somehow according to how much is available but the allocation mechanism doesn't seem to follow any pattern I can see. Anyway it's working well so far with no errors that's the main thing. Go, go Aussie Assault! :cheer1:
The Graph is looking great and we are now only 30K away from 5th place. I got the next Trophy but I am 36285 credits away from your next trophy. :cry2:
The Team is in 5th place in the world which puts us on the front page of the SkyNet website under Leaderboards / Alliance. http://www.theskynet.org/index
Great job to all those that contributed from our BOINC Team and the top crunchers of the Alliance from Cruncher Junkies. :congrats :congrats
#1 kirdnem-vince 106103
#2 RAMen 74189
Yay, well done everyone. :thumbsup: :congrats :congrats :congrats
I just went for a walk outside and the Alliance has crunched so much sky the moon has gone red. biggrin
As you can see we are still catching up to the Team in 5th Place (http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1136.msg25394#msg25394). If you have any PC's that have any spare cores the Boinc@Australia Alliance can always use the help even if it is only on a ad hoc basis.
The Team dropped to 6th place today as a team went flying by from below. However we are still catching up to the Team above us and should be back in 5th place at some time. If you have any spare cores all are welcome to contribute even if it is not BOINC. :rocks
Yeh, due to permissions and restrictions on work computers, I can't install BOINC.
So running Java on these computers are no worries if you have a few spare cores (if anyone is in the same situation as me)
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