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Title: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 30, 2016, 12:48:05 AM
Team created see and invitation code is in Members only board here http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1854.msg40421#msg40421 (http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1854.msg40421#msg40421)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 21, 2016, 07:22:13 PM
Looks like campaign #6 is complete.
That's great. Hopefully now they have the funds to improve the SSD's for BOINCSTATS.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 22, 2016, 12:58:10 AM
That is good news Chooka.  :thumbsup:   I hope it gives Willy a bit of financial breathing room for a while.   
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on March 09, 2016, 05:53:45 AM
I agree.
Whilst I too am not really a huge fan of BU, if it helps with things like that, I'm in.
:thumbsup:

I uncheck all the projects in my BU preferences which I'm not interested in.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 19, 2016, 11:07:31 AM
Hi folks I realize this is a sensitive subject for some in our team but I thought even those against the idea may still be interested in my adventure to the dark side ;)

A few months ago I was on ebay hunting for crunching bargains when I came across a USB ASIC miner going cheap, on a whim I bid on it an won it for $33 dollars(plus a few dollars postage) since then i've been undecided as to what to do with it.  Fast forward to now & with power prices & my finances being what they are & facing the very real possibility of having to drastically down scale my crunching I decided as an experiment to see what could be done with it at Bitcoin Utopia.  These are my results..

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=14049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid= (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=14049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=)

Yesterday the $33 device called a Bi Fury finished it's first full day of operation and received 5,850,000 credit so a bit coin credit billionaire I will never be, but still that's many millions more than what my eight remaining GPU's & all my CPU's produced yesterday and all that from a tiny $30 dollar second hand USB stick device that draws under 5 watts of power from a USB port.  It should go without saying that this device is getting near the bottom end of whats available.  It would take 170 of these to get a billion credit a day like some  others are doing but this is more than enough for me to experiment with & maybe get a milestone or two all while supporting one of my favourite boinc projects(milkyway)

In the past other campaigns(sub projects) have been available that I would have been interest in and they include supporting Yoyo, SETI, SRBase, Boinc Stats, Free DC and a campaign for cancer research but right now only 3 campaigns are available that i'm aware of,  of them only Milkyway is of interest to me at this point.  The way I figure it i'm still crunching to support research and boinc projects just same as we all do. 

I wish such devices were available for crunching other projects directly.  You would think they wouldn't have any problem selling enough of them at the bigger projects like SETI, Einstein or World Community Grid. An ASIC is many times more powerful than a GPU but only at one task. The problem is you'd need one for each project and there not cheap to design.

I'm not trying to sell the idea to anyone i'm just trying to explain my own personal experience to those interested.

Crunch-on  :crazy
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 21, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
Hi Jugnuts,

I just happened to glance at BOINCStats and saw you had converted to the dark side of Bitcoin Utopia!  biggrin
Mate..... that little device you found is insane!  :shock  My R9 390 only produces about 1.7Mil credits per day and cost a BUCKET LOAD more than that USB stick you have there!
I too now only crunch BU for Milkyway @ Home because space is my interest.

I see I'm not the only one feeling the pinch in my hip pocket lately.
Thank you for sharing your great find in the Bi Fury. You did well to find one for $33.00. I've seen them for over $100 so not sure how you pulled that one off :)

Have a good weekend :)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 21, 2016, 10:32:50 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 19, 2016, 11:07:31 AM
Hi folks I realize this is a sensitive subject for some in our team but I thought even those against the idea may still be interested in my adventure to the dark side ;)

A few months ago I was on ebay hunting for crunching bargains when I came across a USB ASIC miner going cheap, on a whim I bid on it an won it for $33 dollars(plus a few dollars postage) since then i've been undecided as to what to do with it.  Fast forward to now & with power prices & my finances being what they are & facing the very real possibility of having to drastically down scale my crunching I decided as an experiment to see what could be done with it at Bitcoin Utopia.  These are my results..

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=14049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid= (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=14049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=)

Yesterday the $33 device called a Bi Fury finished it's first full day of operation and received 5,850,000 credit so a bit coin credit billionaire I will never be, but still that's many millions more than what my eight remaining GPU's & all my CPU's produced yesterday and all that from a tiny $30 dollar second hand USB stick device that draws under 5 watts of power from a USB port.  It should go without saying that this device is getting near the bottom end of whats available.  It would take 170 of these to get a billion credit a day like some  others are doing but this is more than enough for me to experiment with & maybe get a milestone or two all while supporting one of my favourite boinc projects(milkyway)

In the past other campaigns(sub projects) have been available that I would have been interest in and they include supporting Yoyo, SETI, SRBase, Boinc Stats, Free DC and a campaign for cancer research but right now only 3 campaigns are available that i'm aware of,  of them only Milkyway is of interest to me at this point.  The way I figure it i'm still crunching to support research and boinc projects just same as we all do. 

I wish such devices were available for crunching other projects directly.  You would think they wouldn't have any problem selling enough of them at the bigger projects like SETI, Einstein or World Community Grid. An ASIC is many times more powerful than a GPU but only at one task. The problem is you'd need one for each project and there not cheap to design.

I'm not trying to sell the idea to anyone i'm just trying to explain my own personal experience to those interested.

Crunch-on  :crazy

Interesting but I have no friggin' idea what an "USB ASCI miner" is.  biggrin Know USB ... know ASCI language ... but ... ??? Can you point me somewhere so I can be crazy too.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 21, 2016, 11:33:47 AM
Quote from: Dataman on May 21, 2016, 10:32:50 AM

Interesting but I have no friggin' idea what an "USB ASCI miner" is.  biggrin Know USB ... know ASCI language ... but ... ??? Can you point me somewhere so I can be crazy too.  :rofl:

*LOL* I could but err something tells me you may have enough of it already  :crazy  Not to worry mate crazy folk out number the normal a billion to one these days, so if you use that logic crazy may just be the new normal?

But if you are interested in anything i'd be happy to part what little info I have.

Crunch-on
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 21, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on May 21, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
Hi Jugnuts,

I just happened to glance at BOINCStats and saw you had converted to the dark side of Bitcoin Utopia!  biggrin
Mate..... that little device you found is insane!  :shock  My R9 390 only produces about 1.7Mil credits per day and cost a BUCKET LOAD more than that USB stick you have there!
I too now only crunch BU for Milkyway @ Home because space is my interest.

I see I'm not the only one feeling the pinch in my hip pocket lately.
Thank you for sharing your great find in the Bi Fury. You did well to find one for $33.00. I've seen them for over $100 so not sure how you pulled that one off :)

Have a good weekend :)

Yea I just looked on ebay and your right I did get a bargain and it was from an Ozzie seller too.  But if you are looking to buy then don't buy the Bi fury unless it is around the same $30 - $40 dollar mark because for $110 dollars you could get an Antminer U3.  While it may be 3 times the price it has 12 times the output. Just be careful while the U3 is compatible with BU many others are not.  BU has a white list of compatible miners.
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.htm?_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=3&LH_PrefLoc=1&rt=nc&_dmd=2&LH_BIN=1&_trksid=p2376826.m4398.l8093&_nkw=Antminer+U3 (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.htm?_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=3&LH_PrefLoc=1&rt=nc&_dmd=2&LH_BIN=1&_trksid=p2376826.m4398.l8093&_nkw=Antminer+U3)

Cheers..

PS you'd also need to buy a separate power supply or at least a compatible lead to run it off your PC's power supply. There's a power supply and lead pictured in the above link.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Sean on May 21, 2016, 01:50:36 PM
Quote from: JugNut on May 19, 2016, 11:07:31 AM
...
I wish such devices were available for crunching other projects directly.  You would think they wouldn't have any problem selling enough of them at the bigger projects like SETI, Einstein or World Community Grid. An ASIC is many times more powerful than a GPU but only at one task. The problem is you'd need one for each project and there not cheap to design.
...


I often think about that too. My knowledge in this area is limited, but I think it would be very difficult and expensive to build such an ASIC. As far as I know, they are suited to applications where one algorithm is repeated many times (which I think Bitcoin does). I think most BOINC applications are to long and complex to build an ASIC for, would be nice though.

FPGAs are another option too, very similar to ASIC but are reprogrammable which would be necessary each time a projects app was updated.

I think a lot of the biomedical BOINC applications run off the same underlying programs that are used outside of BOINC too. So if someone did manage to get a BOINC biomed program working on FPGA or ASIC they would most likely become very rich indeed.



It is an interesting idea though and I've been meaning to look into it properly for awhile...    :drool:  biggrin



Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 21, 2016, 03:55:50 PM
Quote from: JugNut on May 21, 2016, 12:35:44 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on May 21, 2016, 09:32:52 AM
Hi Jugnuts,

I just happened to glance at BOINCStats and saw you had converted to the dark side of Bitcoin Utopia!  biggrin
Mate..... that little device you found is insane!  :shock  My R9 390 only produces about 1.7Mil credits per day and cost a BUCKET LOAD more than that USB stick you have there!
I too now only crunch BU for Milkyway @ Home because space is my interest.

I see I'm not the only one feeling the pinch in my hip pocket lately.
Thank you for sharing your great find in the Bi Fury. You did well to find one for $33.00. I've seen them for over $100 so not sure how you pulled that one off :)

Have a good weekend :)

Yea I just looked on ebay and your right I did get a bargain and it was from an Ozzie seller too.  But if you are looking to buy then don't buy the Bi fury unless it is around the same $30 - $40 dollar mark because for $110 dollars you could get an Antminer U3.  While it may be 3 times the price it has 12 times the output. Just be careful while the U3 is compatible with BU many others are not.  BU has a white list of compatible miners.
http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.htm?_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=3&LH_PrefLoc=1&rt=nc&_dmd=2&LH_BIN=1&_trksid=p2376826.m4398.l8093&_nkw=Antminer+U3 (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.htm?_sacat=0&LH_ItemCondition=3&LH_PrefLoc=1&rt=nc&_dmd=2&LH_BIN=1&_trksid=p2376826.m4398.l8093&_nkw=Antminer+U3)

Cheers..

PS you'd also need to buy a separate power supply or at least a compatible lead to run it off your PC's power supply. There's a power supply and lead pictured in the above link.

Oh I have no intention of becoming a Bitcoin farmer for BOINC. But if a $33 item can flog a $500+ video card at a fraction of the energy, then that would be a win.
Well done to get it cheaply AND from an OZ seller. Places I looked at were sold out and they were overseas businesses!
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 22, 2016, 12:44:23 AM
OK, now I know what it is. How difficult is it to configure? Is there info at BU? I have not looked there yet as I am not done throwing a hissy fit over WCG's lack of wu's!!!!  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Green-Bitcoin-Miner-11-22/dp/B015VFEM9I/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&qid=1463840586&sr=8-9&keywords=usb+antminer
Not planning on being a bitcoin miner but it would be fun to play with one.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 22, 2016, 05:01:19 AM
Hey Dataman, that one is supposed to do twice what mine does,  maybe double that again if overclocked.  The one I got has a processing(hashing) rate of up to 5 GHs(Giga-hashes a second) that one does 11 GHs out of the box.  It's not on the BU white list but I think most stick based ASIC's should work? 

Although if you are interested and thinking about having a crack at it,  it might be safer option to choose something from the white list of confirmed working devices.
http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=303&postid=2272#2272 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=303&postid=2272#2272)

If nothing else these are interesting times as there's plenty different things to crunch and try.

All the best JN
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 22, 2016, 07:32:46 AM
Seems they are not accepting new members at BU so will have wait on this one.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 22, 2016, 10:39:47 AM
Now there's a business to be in at the moment........Producing these USB miners!
Scanning the web and it seems the world is sold out. Some good $$$ to be made by the manufacturers at the moment.

Have a good weekend all :)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on May 22, 2016, 11:07:59 AM
Greetings All

Over at BU, after the current subprojects complete, they will be no longer be supporting CPUs and GPUs.  All the details are on their website.

Regards
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 22, 2016, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: Dataman on May 22, 2016, 07:32:46 AM
Seems they are not accepting new members at BU so will have wait on this one.

Dingo has an invitation code here..

EDIT BY DINGO: I moved the post to the correct place http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1852.0 (http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1852.0)

Although as reported by tazzduke CPU & GPU crunching will soon be phased out.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 22, 2016, 06:45:32 PM
Oh well, looks like you be one of the few still getting credit points soon Jugnuts (except maybe the die hard BC farmers.)
I imagine most people are using a standard CPU & GPU like me.
On the positive side, this might clean up the distortion that Bitcoin Utopia has created with the silly amounts of credit points given. (Again, except for the die hards with all the BC gear)

:rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 22, 2016, 10:48:09 PM
Quote from: JugNut on May 22, 2016, 05:23:29 PM
Quote from: Dataman on May 22, 2016, 07:32:46 AM
Seems they are not accepting new members at BU so will have wait on this one.

Dingo has an invitation code here..
EDIT BY DINGO: I moved the post to the correct place http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1852.0

Although as reported by tazzduke CPU & GPU crunching will soon be phased out.
Used it and was able to join. Bought the last USB miner they had on Amazon (maybe another doorstop). Something to play with though. Checked every USB miner listed at BU and ALL were sold out worldwide.  :shock Why??
???
I read a BUNCH of posts at BU last night and now I know even less than I knew before which was nothing.  biggrin Oh well, this how I got started with GPU crunching. I bought a 9800 GTX and it was almost 2 MONTHS before I returned a successful result at GPUGRID. Steep learning curve.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 22, 2016, 11:46:18 PM
OMG I have gone over to the dark side.  :rofl: Returned my first successful GPU BU wu. ~5K credits for a 22 min run ... shame on me :jester:
I should get my miner on Wed ... will keep ya'all posted.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 23, 2016, 06:01:05 PM
Before ya know it this will be in either Dataman's or Jugnuts garage!  :rofl:
(http://i64.tinypic.com/2db4cgo.jpg)

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on May 23, 2016, 10:12:44 PM
 :rofl:  :rofl:  :rofl:  :boom:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 23, 2016, 10:42:31 PM
 biggrin :shock biggrin

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 23, 2016, 11:23:40 PM
@Jugnut:
To use the miner only do you turn off CPU and GPU in preferences or do you have to uncheck all the CPU and GPU projects?
Thanks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 24, 2016, 02:05:20 AM
@ Chooka:  Wow *LOL* I'm a  believer that anything is possible but as far as idea's go that one is plain bonkers,  lets just say it's right up there with me pooping gold nuggets or maybe being the one true messiah err it's possible but highly flipping unlikely ;)


@ Dataman: Yup that's exactly what I did I just unselected CPU & GPU and then I just chose a 333MHs or 1.6GHs ASICs campaign and unselected all the other campaigns. If you leave all the other campains selected they will download as well,  so best just have one campaign selected at a time. Least thats what I did. 
I got a bit greedy and tried a 20GHs campaign but it did not go well,  it seemed like it was going fine at first and it only took 40 mins to get to 90% but that's where my luck ran out as it took a further 3 1/2 hours to get to 99% and showed no sign of ever ending.  So after it stayed at 99% for a further hour I gave up & aborted it.


To get up & running in the first place I just followed the post in the FAQ thread entitled - "How to install an ASIC miner (USB)"
Basically I did exactly what was mentioned in the FAQ,  which went something like this..... 

As my device was not recognised properly by Windows I installed the Zadig drivers from here. http://zadig.akeo.ie/ (http://zadig.akeo.ie/)

Then because i run a Boinc version greater than v7.4.22 I had to insert the below lines into the cc_config.xml file located in C:\ProgramData\Boinc\. (or where ever yours is installed to)

<cc_config>
<options>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>

note: Edit cc_config.xml file with notepad and insert the above lines anywhere between the options flags.  eg: between <options> </options> Not between <log_flags> </log_flags>

Well after that it still wouldn't work,  so I experimented a bit and the problem was the USB 3 ports on my box as soon as I plugged the device into USB 2 ports boinc recognised it and I was golden.

Good Luck  :crazy


PS:  These things run crazy hot so you most probably will need an external fan
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 24, 2016, 03:01:33 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 24, 2016, 02:05:20 AM
@ Chooka:  Wow *LOL* I'm a  believer that anything is possible but as far as idea's go that one is plain bonkers,  lets just say it's right up there with me pooping gold nuggets or maybe being the one true messiah err it's possible but highly flipping unlikely ;)


@ Dataman: Yup that's exactly what I did just unselected CPU & GPU and then just choose a 333MHs or 1.6GHs ASICs campaign and thats it. If you leave other campains selected they will download as well,  so best just have one campaign selected at a time. Least thats what I did. 
I got a bit greedy and tried a 20GHs campaign but it did not go well,  it seemed like it was going fine at first and it only took 40 mins to get to 90% but that's where my luck ran out as it took a further 3 1/2 hours to get to 99% and showed no sign of ever ending.  So after it stayed at 99% for a further hour I gave up & aborted it.


To get up & running in the first place I just followed the post in the FAQ thread entitled - "How to install an ASIC miner (USB)"
Basically I did exactly what was mentioned in the FAQ,  which went something like this..... 

As my device was not recognised properly by Windows I installed the Zadig drivers from here. http://zadig.akeo.ie/ (http://zadig.akeo.ie/)

Then because i run a Boinc version greater than v7.4.22 I had to insert the below lines into the cc_config.xml file located in C:\ProgramData\Boinc\. (or where ever yours is installed to)

<cc_config>
<options>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>

note: Edit cc_config.xml file with notepad and insert the above lines anywhere between the options flags.  eg: between <options> </options> Not between <log_flags> </log_flags>

Well after that it still wouldn't work,  so I experimented a bit and the problem was the USB 3 ports on my box as soon as I plugged the device into USB 2 ports boinc recognised it and I was golden.

Good Luck  :crazy


PS:  These things run crazy hot so you most probably will need an external fan
Thanks, I will make the config changes to all the machines. The C++ change got all my GPU's working at BU. Even the GTX460 SI's that are almost useless now on other projects.
I should receive this miner tomorrow:
http://www.amazon.com/USB-Green-Bitcoin-Miner-11-22/dp/B015VFEM9I?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
and this one by Thursday:
http://www.amazon.com/Bitmain-Antminer-Batch-Bitcoin-Miner/dp/B00SL2UVIK?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=od_aui_detailpages00
I know the antminer will work at BU but not sure about the green one. I will let everyone know as they still have 7 of the Green ones left at Amazon. Only $75 USD and free shipping for Prime customers.
If heat is a problem, I have a USB hub with a long cord and will just hang it out the window.  :rofl: Either that or Karen will hang ME out the window.  :shock
v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 24, 2016, 04:53:27 AM
LOL guys.
Shame $US 75.00 is over $100.00 AUD + shipping. I'm not that keen :)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on May 24, 2016, 09:01:47 AM
Not certain but think the GekkoScience stick one should work:

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=965#10260

Probably that means you would need to install Zadig USB driver as it emulates an Antminer U3.

I was going to get one myself to play with but they don't post to Australia.

Possibly the Antminer U3 would be better value, but the one for US$99.99 also doesn't post to Australia and the Hong Kong seller that does has a price of US$168.99 and a poor rating as well.

I read to beware of buying Antminer U3s on eBay from sellers in China, either new or used, as there are reports of fakes and unreliability.

I know little of how bitcoin works but I briefly read of the planned halving of block reward in July. Lots of speculation about what will happen then. Some predict great volatility as the potential bitcoin price rise due to halving has already been priced in.

Suppose if market crashes you'd still get billions of BOINC credit even if the donation target project only gets the teensiest percentage on what is spent on power. 
   
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on May 24, 2016, 12:43:27 PM
They don't ship to Canada either but there are a couple on the Amazon.ca site but they are not on the list at Bitcoin ? These two that is close to my price range is this one

https://www.amazon.ca/Yellowjacket-2-2-ASIC-Miner-Nanofury/dp/B00I21R4HG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1464057718&sr=8-8&keywords=bitcoin+miner (https://www.amazon.ca/Yellowjacket-2-2-ASIC-Miner-Nanofury/dp/B00I21R4HG/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1464057718&sr=8-8&keywords=bitcoin+miner)

This one looks over priced for the output.


https://www.amazon.ca/ASICMINER-Sapphire-Block-Erupter-Bitcoin/dp/B00DYBD0X6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=41pqi4Cq2dL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=77D356HS791R4C8NJWSF (https://www.amazon.ca/ASICMINER-Sapphire-Block-Erupter-Bitcoin/dp/B00DYBD0X6/ref=pd_sim_sbs_147_3?ie=UTF8&dpID=41pqi4Cq2dL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=77D356HS791R4C8NJWSF)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 24, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
Yeah as Jugnuts said, his 5Ghz one cost about $28.00 (I think that's $US) I'd use that for a bench mark. There seem to be a few floating around which aren't as good as the BitFury. The HexFury looks good too but too pricey for me and good luck finding one!
The green one which Dataman has bought for US$75.00 could be good but we'll wait to see if that one works for him :)

I read an article in the Australia today about a businessman who has about 1/3rd of his wealth in Bitcoins as an alternative to gold. Personally I'm still VERY skeptical of BC.
Here -
http://www.wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-catches-on-with-gold-bugs-1463959897
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 24, 2016, 11:47:15 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on May 24, 2016, 05:04:49 PM
The green one which Dataman has bought for US$75.00 could be good but we'll wait to see if that one works for him :)
FedEx says it is out for delivery today. Will post my trials and tribulations as I attempt to install it.

QuoteI read an article in the Australia today about a businessman who has about 1/3rd of his wealth in Bitcoins as an alternative to gold. Personally I'm still VERY skeptical of BC.
Here -
http://www.wsj.com/articles/bitcoin-catches-on-with-gold-bugs-1463959897
This bloke is a fool! People go to gold (an now crypto currencies) to hedge against very bad times. The "theory" is it will hold value when currencies and markets collapse and can be turned back into wealth when markets revive.. This is the same silly thinking that gets some people to buy a lot of guns, freeze dried food and move deep into the bush to await the "coming" apocalypse. Try this experiment. Take a gold bar or your crypto currency wallet to the market and try to buy food. Try to pay your utility bill with it. When markets collapse the first to also go are the exchange mechanisms which allow someone the exchange something of no intrinsic value (e.g. paper money) for something of value (e.g. food). If I possessed an extra rare bag of flour would I exchange it for bitcoins? No, I would exchange it for a cow! So if you want a hedge against bad times, buy cows not bitcoins.  :wink
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 03:22:58 AM
I got it and installed it and the zidag driver. Device manager recognizes it and says it is working properly. BOINC does not seem to recognize it. Here is my config file:
<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>
<cc_config>
<options>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>

Is this correct. It still reconizes the GPU's but not the miner.

Log file:
5/24/2016 09:43:33 |  | Data directory: C:\ProgramData\BOINC
5/24/2016 09:43:33 |  | Running under account Dataman
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 970 (driver version 365.10, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 4096MB, 3347MB available, 3919 GFLOPS peak)
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 970 (driver version 365.10, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 5.2, 4096MB, 3347MB available, 3919 GFLOPS peak)
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 970 (driver version 365.10, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 4096MB, 3347MB available, 3919 GFLOPS peak)
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 1: GeForce GTX 970 (driver version 365.10, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 4096MB, 3347MB available, 3919 GFLOPS peak)
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Host name: Dataman06
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Processor: 12 GenuineIntel Intel(R) Core(TM) i7 CPU         970  @ 3.20GHz [Family 6 Model 44 Stepping 2]
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Processor features: fpu vme de pse tsc msr pae mce cx8 apic sep mtrr pge mca cmov pat pse36 clflush dts acpi mmx fxsr sse sse2 ss htt tm pni ssse3 cx16 sse4_1 sse4_2 popcnt aes syscall nx lm vmx tm2 pbe
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | OS: Microsoft Windows 10: Core x64 Edition, (10.00.10586.00)
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Memory: 11.99 GB physical, 23.99 GB virtual
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Disk: 930.97 GB total, 777.61 GB free
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Local time is UTC -7 hours
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | VirtualBox version: 5.0.12
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Config: GUI RPCs allowed from:
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | 192.168.1.81
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Config: use all coprocessors
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | Albert@Home | URL http://albert.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 14616; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | Asteroids@home | URL http://asteroidsathome.net/boinc/; Computer ID 140688; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | Bitcoin Utopia | URL http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/; Computer ID 14097; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | Collatz Conjecture | URL http://boinc.thesonntags.com/collatz/; Computer ID 515852; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | Cosmology@Home | URL http://www.cosmologyathome.org/; Computer ID 277694; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | Einstein@Home | URL http://einstein.phys.uwm.edu/; Computer ID 10784644; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | pogs | URL http://pogs.theskynet.org/pogs/; Computer ID 208866; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | PrimeGrid | URL http://www.primegrid.com/; Computer ID 509590; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | RNA World | URL http://www.rnaworld.de/rnaworld/; Computer ID 44084; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | Universe@Home | URL http://universeathome.pl/universe/; Computer ID 676; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | World Community Grid | URL http://www.worldcommunitygrid.org/; Computer ID 1788731; resource share 100
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | World Community Grid | General prefs: from World Community Grid (last modified 26-Oct-2012 10:59:37)
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | World Community Grid | Host location: none
5/24/2016 09:43:34 | World Community Grid | General prefs: using your defaults
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Reading preferences override file
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | Preferences:
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | max memory usage when active: 11051.26MB
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | max memory usage when idle: 11665.22MB
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | max disk usage: 40.00GB
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | max CPUs used: 9
5/24/2016 09:43:34 |  | (to change preferences, visit a project web site or select Preferences in the Manager)
5/24/2016 09:54:08 | Bitcoin Utopia | update requested by user
5/24/2016 09:54:12 | Bitcoin Utopia | Sending scheduler request: Requested by user.
5/24/2016 09:54:12 | Bitcoin Utopia | Reporting 7 completed tasks
5/24/2016 09:54:12 | Bitcoin Utopia | Requesting new tasks for CPU and NVIDIA GPU
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | Scheduler request completed: got 0 new tasks
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | No tasks sent
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | No tasks are available for cgminer (Campaign #7) (for 1.6+GH/s ASICs)
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | No tasks are available for cgminer (Campaign #3) (for 1.6+GH/s ASICs)
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | No tasks are available for cgminer (Campaign #13) (for 1.6+GH/s ASICs)
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | Tasks for CPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | Tasks for NVIDIA GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | Tasks for AMD/ATI GPU are available, but your preferences are set to not accept them
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | New computer location: work
5/24/2016 09:54:15 | Bitcoin Utopia | Your current settings do not allow tasks from this project.  To fix this, you can change Project Preferences on the project's web site.


Can it be that no tasks are available for 1.6+GH/s? Does not appear so on server status.
Any ideas?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 04:46:58 AM
Yea i've been getting constant work so it's probably not that.

This is my message log(note the highlighted line that is missing in yours. Did you restart boinc after adding the lines in cc_config?

5-May-2016 22:22:11 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.6.9 for windows_x86_64
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.39.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2a zlib/1.2.8
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] Data directory: D:\ProgramData\BOINC
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] Running under account Greg
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] Coprocessor specified in cc_config.xml. Type miner_asic (GPU); count 1
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 780 Ti (driver version 362.00, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 3.5, 3072MB, 2715MB available, 5345 GFLOPS peak)
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1848, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak)
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 780 Ti (driver version 362.00, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 3072MB, 2715MB available, 5345 GFLOPS peak)
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1912.5 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1912.5), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak)
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4930K CPU @ 3.40GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1912.5 (sse2,avx), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1912.5))
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [Asteroids@home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [DENIS@Home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [SETI@home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform



PS:  Which device are you trying?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 04:58:27 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 04:46:58 AM
Yea i've been getting constant work so it's probably not that.

This is my message log(note the highlighted line that is missing in yours. Did you restart boinc after adding the lines in cc_config?

5-May-2016 22:22:11 [---] Starting BOINC client version 7.6.9 for windows_x86_64
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] log flags: file_xfer, sched_ops, task
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] Libraries: libcurl/7.39.0 OpenSSL/1.0.2a zlib/1.2.8
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] Data directory: D:\ProgramData\BOINC
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] Running under account Greg
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] Coprocessor specified in cc_config.xml. Type miner_asic (GPU); count 1
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] CUDA: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 780 Ti (driver version 362.00, CUDA version 8.0, compute capability 3.5, 3072MB, 2715MB available, 5345 GFLOPS peak)
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] CAL: ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (CAL version 1.4.1848, 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak)
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] OpenCL: NVIDIA GPU 0: GeForce GTX 780 Ti (driver version 362.00, device version OpenCL 1.2 CUDA, 3072MB, 2715MB available, 5345 GFLOPS peak)
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] OpenCL: AMD/ATI GPU 0: AMD Radeon HD 7870/7950/7970/R9 280X series (Tahiti) (driver version 1912.5 (VM), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1912.5), 3072MB, 3032MB available, 10445 GFLOPS peak)
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [---] OpenCL CPU: Intel(R) Core(TM) i7-4930K CPU @ 3.40GHz (OpenCL driver vendor: Advanced Micro Devices, Inc., driver version 1912.5 (sse2,avx), device version OpenCL 1.2 AMD-APP (1912.5))
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [Asteroids@home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [DENIS@Home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform
15-May-2016 22:22:12 [SETI@home] Found app_info.xml; using anonymous platform



PS:  Which device are you trying?

EUREKA!!

Changed my config file to this:
<cc_config>
<options>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>
<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>

Restarted BOINC and immediately got 26 miner tasks. Seems to be running OK now.
The GPU config was when I was using mixed GPU's don't need that now but since it is working I am afraid to change anything now.
Thanks for your help JN.

EDIT: Yep, now I get this
5/24/2016 11:48:03 |  | Coprocessor specified in cc_config.xml. Type miner_asic (GPU); count 1
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 05:08:48 AM
Sweet!!  Which miner are you using?


EDIT: Ahrrg I must be going blind I missed it at first but with it the way you have it now the highlighted section is truncated, so not being used. So the <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> section will not appear any longer in your message log.

<cc_config>
<options>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>
<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>




It should look like this....


<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>


Just copy & paste & it should be fine.  No hurry I guess at least your up & running and besides the <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> is only rarely needed but still better to be safe than sorry.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 05:17:05 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 05:08:48 AM
Sweet!!  Which miner are you using?
The miner is the green geko labs one. The tasks are the 333 MH #7 and 1.6 GH #3, #7, & #13. Really fast ... really HOT. May have to put a fan on it.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 05:20:09 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 05:08:48 AM
Sweet!!  Which miner are you using?


EDIT: Ahrrg I must be going blind I mist it at first but with it like this the highlighted section is truncated, so not being used

<cc_config>
<options>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>
<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
</options>
</cc_config>



It should look like this....


<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>

OK I will make that change later after some wu's have completed
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 05:44:59 AM
I did a dumb thing that worked out quite well with my ASIC.   It was so hot I couldn't hold it for more than a few seconds so I tried putting in front of one of my PC's air intakes to cool it down but that didn't work at all.  So in a moment of pure dumbness as I raced to the toilet I grabbed a spare CPU tower heat sink and dumped it on top of the ASIC heatsink and leant it against the side of the PC. I came back panicking a few minutes later thinking well that was dumb now there's no airflow to the ASIC heat fins so surely it would be cooking but to my surprise it was now as cool as a cucumber and that's the way it still is,  well until I come up with a better err dumber idea that is. :)


PS: You caught me in mid edit when you quoted my post but oh well what some bad spelling & missing bolded section between friends ;)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 06:12:37 AM
Well I am so excited I am about to wet my pants.  :rofl: Question: Do these wu's checkpoint?
I have to stop myself from going out and buying more of these "greenies".  biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 06:16:37 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 05:44:59 AM
I did a dumb thing that worked out quite well with my ASIC.   It was so hot I couldn't hold it for more than a few seconds so I tried putting in front of one of my PC's air intakes to cool it down but that didn't work at all.  So in a moment of pure dumbness as I raced to the toilet I grabbed a spare CPU tower heat sink and dumped it on top of the ASIC heatsink and leant it against the side of the PC. I came back panicking a few minutes later thinking well that was dumb now there's no airflow to the ASIC heat fins so surely it would be cooking but to my surprise it was now as cool as a cucumber and that's the way it still is,  well until I come up with a better err dumber idea that is. :)


PS: You caught me in mid edit when you quoted my post but oh well what some bad spelling & missing bolded section between friends ;)
I have two USB fans that Karen gave me for valentine's day with a card that read " A propeller for my favorite propeller head". I am trying to find them now.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 06:49:51 AM
Nope no checkpointing for me. Then again the longest i've had one run is about 14 mins, usually they avg about 8 mins but yours should be much quicker than that.

Like you i'm waiting to see a couple of your tasks complete but as yet nothing um what gives? No invalids is good but i'd still like to see some valid ones.   Is all well at the battle front?   Or am I just looking at the wrong PC's results?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 06:55:35 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 06:49:51 AM
Nope no checkpointing for me. Then again the longest i've had one run is about 14 mins, usually they avg about 8 mins but yours should be much quicker than that.

Like you i'm waiting to see a couple of your tasks complete but as yet nothing um what gives? No invalids is good but i'd still like to see some valid ones.   Is all well at the battle front?   Or am I just looking at the wrong PC's results?

The first one completed but is invalid
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
13:48:28 (6952): task cgminer.exe reached time limit 7200
13:48:28 (6952): called boinc_finish(0)

It ran the first 99.995% in one hour but the second .005% took another hour. Then it completed but was marked as exceeding the time limit.  :angry:

Now running an 1.6GH wu an is already at 45%.  ???
I unchecked the 333 MH app and aborted the ones downloaded. ... will see what happens.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 07:12:27 AM
As I mentioned with mine any longer than say 20 mins for a 1.6GH means its not running right. If it doesn't work this time just suspend your next tasks and try hot plugging to a different USB port.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 07:16:39 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 07:12:27 AM
As I mentioned with mine any longer than say 20 mins for a 1.6GH means its not running right. If it doesn't work this time just suspend your next tasks and try hot plugging to a different USB port.
Now at 91% and 26 min into it.  ???

EDIT: now 98% and 33 min ... should know soon

Edit: This one seems to be doing the same thing. Ran to 98+% fast and then slowed down dramatically. 99.8% at 1:40 min . Does not bode well. :hbang:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 08:56:02 AM
Oh well, same thing. Ran out of time at 2 hours at 99.991% complete.
On the bright side I got the miner, installed/configured it and got it to run wu's. Don't know why they run so long and are invalid but tomorrow is another day. Got to go cook. Karen is back from todays wanderings and I don't think she will accept a cold muffin and a cup of tea.  biggrin

Started another one on a different port but have low expectations.

I looked at a stderr out file from one of your valid wu and it does not look anything like mine

(1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
[2016-05-24 15:37:44] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
[2016-05-24 15:37:44] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block                   
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s         
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15:48:37 (4596): task cgminer.exe reached time limit 7200
15:48:37 (4596): called boinc_finish(0)

</stderr_txt>
]]>

Apparently it is not doing anything for 2 hours.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 09:22:37 AM
Did you try different USB ports?  If so and still not working then suspend all remaining tasks and unplug the ASIC.  After that then go back and start a task with the ASIC still un-plugged then after a few seconds plug it back in. I've heard this can sometimes trigger proper detection.

If still nothing then it looks like you need a visit to the BU forums for this one unless anyone else has some ideas.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 09:36:35 AM
Ok, now I am really confused. I just completed 3 wu's in 8 minutes. All were valid for 30K credits EACH. Must have been the port. I will take success wherever I find it. :dance2:

Now they seem to be completing in 4 minutes. Will look at their stderr after dinner.  :mwalk:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on May 25, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
Well done.  :congrats   :congrats

I noticed some of the people purchasing USB stick type miners on Amazon also purchased powered USB hubs. Perhaps the amount and or variability of power/connection from USB ports on a computer sometimes causes problems which a powered USB hub helps avoid. In other words, you may not be the only one with instability due to computer USB ports.

Your success has inspired me. Found a place that ships to Australia, shipping is a bit expensive at US$24.95, but price is a bit less at US$39.95. That's about AU$90 total unless Oz peso has wilted again since I last looked 10 minutes ago, haha, so I grabbed one. Don't know how long it will take to get here, it's "International Priority Mail Flat Rate", whatever that means.

http://holybitcoin.com/product/gekkoscience-compac-bm1384-stickminer/
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 11:47:19 AM
Quote from: kashi on May 25, 2016, 11:07:25 AM
Well done.  :congrats   :congrats

I noticed some of the people purchasing USB stick type miners on Amazon also purchased powered USB hubs. Perhaps the amount and or variability of power/connection from USB ports on a computer sometimes causes problems which a powered USB hub helps avoid. In other words, you may not be the only one with instability due to computer USB ports.

Your success has inspired me. Found a place that ships to Australia, shipping is a bit expensive at US$24.95, but price is a bit less at US$39.95. That's about AU$90 total unless Oz peso has wilted again since I last looked 10 minutes ago, haha, so I grabbed one. Don't know how long it will take to get here, it's "International Priority Mail Flat Rate", whatever that means.

http://holybitcoin.com/product/gekkoscience-compac-bm1384-stickminer/
Good find kashi!! Actually that is about $5 less than mine with free shipping. That is identical to mine and now we know it works. Mine now averaging 3 min. Spot on on the powered USB hub. I have my eye on this one.
http://www.amazon.com/Satechi-Power-Adapter-Control-Switches/dp/B0051PGX2I?ie=UTF8&psc=1&redirect=true&ref_=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00
I can see a 12-stick array in my future.  :rofl:

"Anything worth doing is worth doing to excess".
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on May 25, 2016, 12:03:02 PM
12!!! Go to town.  :crazy
Not sure if that hub you've picked is suitable. At end of product description it says: "This hub is not recommended for ASIC bitcoin miners"
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 12:15:20 PM
Quote from: kashi on May 25, 2016, 12:03:02 PM
12!!! Go to town.  :crazy
Not sure if that hub you've picked is suitable. At end of product description it says: "This hub is not recommended for ASIC bitcoin miners"
Ooops ... was only a dream anyway.

I think the one installed and the U3 on order will satisfy my curiosity about mining. Fun day today though.  :wiggle:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 25, 2016, 01:19:38 PM
That's the way DM things are looking much better now.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 25, 2016, 04:29:26 PM
Gee great find indeed Kashi!
I scoured the web and came up with zilch but you found that which is amazing. I thought the world had sold out!

I decided to grab one too seen as A)BU won't have any work for my GPU soon and B) Well...you guys are all jumping on the bandwagon :)  :rofl:
This works well with my ethos anyway. I like to support Milkyway @ Home so I can use this miner for that on BU and it will free up my GPU for M@H tasks.

I'm a bit concerned about my ability to get it to work even with all the great posts you guys have placed on this thread but I'll do my best and I'm sure you guys won't mind walking me through it if I get stuck. Somehow I got the cc config to work for M@H when I bought my R9 390 so hopefully I can do it again.

I too will just live with one miner but can see how people would want to buy more and more.
Goodluck guys! and thanks.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 25, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
[quote

It should look like this....


<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>


Just copy & paste & it should be fine.  No hurry I guess at least your up & running and besides the <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> is only rarely needed but still better to be safe than sorry.
[/quote]

Sorry to ask a silly question but in my cc_config file (notepad) I can see where it starts with <cc_config> then down the page <options> so do I insert all the rest after the <options>? Basically copy & paste -

<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>

Is that all?
I know nothing about computer language.
I don't have a ASIC miner but I'm just trying to get my head around it.

I'm assuming we only run the 333MH & 1.6GH tasks.... Is that because these miners we are using are sub 20GH?

Thanks guys.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2016, 11:40:15 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on May 25, 2016, 05:46:01 PM
Quote

It should look like this....


<cc_config>
<options>
<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>
</options>
</cc_config>


Just copy & paste & it should be fine.  No hurry I guess at least your up & running and besides the <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> is only rarely needed but still better to be safe than sorry.

QuoteSorry to ask a silly question but in my cc_config file (notepad) I can see where it starts with <cc_config> then down the page <options> so do I insert all the rest after the <options>? Basically copy & paste -

<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>

Is that all?
I know nothing about computer language.
I don't have a ASIC miner but I'm just trying to get my head around it.

I'm assuming we only run the 333MH & 1.6GH tasks.... Is that because these miners we are using are sub 20GH?

Thanks guys.
You already have it figured out. I'll help you wherever I can but everything I know about mining I learned in the last 72 hours.  biggrin  Big thanks to JN for keeping me on track.  :worship I bet you an OZ dollar that you will be running within 2 hours after your miner is delivered.  :thumbsup: The only thing I still have not figured out about my install is why it worked on one USB port and not the other one. They are both the same. I put a fan on mine and it is cool to the touch. 7 million credits in <24 hours is amazing too.  :shock
Yes, you can run only the projects that are the speed of your miner. I set up a separate profile (work) for just the miner projects I want to run. If I want to run CPU & GPU's I use the default profile and the Work profile if just want to run the miner.
Good luck mate.
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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 26, 2016, 05:11:25 AM
Thanks Dataman.
Yeah I feel for all those people who went out and bought heaps of expensive GPU's to mine bitcoins. They've wasted their money imo.
As I said earlier, my $500+ GPU does less than 2Mil/day.

Imagine how hot your bedroom/study would become with a heap of these USB miners running! 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 26, 2016, 05:23:10 AM
Quote

Sorry to ask a silly question but in my cc_config file (notepad) I can see where it starts with <cc_config> then down the page <options> so do I insert all the rest after the <options>? Basically copy & paste -

<use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus>
<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>

Is that all?
I know nothing about computer language.
I don't have a ASIC miner but I'm just trying to get my head around it.

I'm assuming we only run the 333MH & 1.6GH tasks.... Is that because these miners we are using are sub 20GH?

Thanks guys.

Hey chooka sorry for the late reply but if the <option> section is already in your cc_config then just place it anywhere under it,  just not in the <log_flags> </log_flags> section.

Just copy & pate this bit only. 

<coproc>
<type>miner_asic</type>
<count>1</count>
</coproc>

As the <use_all_gpus>1</use_all_gpus> is only used for people with multiple GPU's, and since you only have one GPU you don't need it. I's mainly for people with different types of GPU cards that have different performance levels as sometimes boinc will only use the most powerful card it finds and wont use anything else. So that line forces all cards in the system to be used. I'm not sure if it's still even needed with the latest boinc builds?  But it's still a good one to remember, just in case boinc doesn't play nice when you get multiple GPU's.

As Dataman has already said you must choose campaigns under the GH limit of your ASIC.  Since yours is specified 11GHs you can only do work units under 11HG/s. Actually maybe just do the 1.6GH stuff as it gives considerably more credit than the 333MH work units do.

Good Luck
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 26, 2016, 06:21:18 PM
Thanks very much for the clarification Jugnuts :)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 26, 2016, 11:34:20 PM
I have turned off all the CPU & GPU's at BU. The single ASCI miner seems to be doing ~12 million credits/day.  :faint:
I am going to build one of these ... someday.
http://blog.whitesites.com/blogs/large/Bitcoin-Mining-USB-ASIC-Block-Erupters_635096703980791015.jpg
but knowing me it will end up looking tike this.  :rofl:
https://uswaterborneimporttrade.files.wordpress.com/2013/10/bitcoin-mining-equipment-copy.png?w=576
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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 27, 2016, 02:56:04 AM
Putting in a cracking pace there Dataman.  :thumbsup:

By gees thats quite a mess they got going on there in that second link.  A better idea would be If you had an old tower with lots of CD ROM slots laying around then you could fill them with something like this.......

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/InLine-Front-Panel-for-the-DVD-enclosure-5-25-13-Fold-USB-2-0-Hub-Black/152101718413?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107090050%26meid%3D637300b6932544d29e428777d791c7fc%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D161858188602 (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/InLine-Front-Panel-for-the-DVD-enclosure-5-25-13-Fold-USB-2-0-Hub-Black/152101718413?_trksid=p2047675.c100011.m1850&_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20140107090050%26meid%3D637300b6932544d29e428777d791c7fc%26pid%3D100011%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D1%26sd%3D161858188602)

Much neater and should have enough power as it runs off the PC's power supply.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on May 27, 2016, 09:36:42 AM
Last night I was researching powered hubs recommended for Gekkoscience USB miners. You need hubs that provide high power to be able to overclock them very much at all. More power than is needed for Block Erupter types I think.

Many (most?) powered hubs don't provide sufficient power for multiple overclocked Gekkoscience miners. The USB 3 one that had the highest recommendation that I saw was the Superbpag 7 port 70W one (http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM). However once again ran into the "doesn't post to Australia" roadblock everywhere. Same with the Plugable 7 port 60W (http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-SuperSpeed-Charging-Adapter-Support/dp/B00RM5OF70), which although I didn't see recommended anywhere for Gekkoscience miners should also be suitable.

There's a few suitable USB 2 type available to Australia such as Anker and Plugable.

For cooling them I read the Arctic Breeze Mobile USB fan  (http://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-USB-Powered-Portable-Solution-Gooseneck/dp/B003XN24GY)was recommended in a few places. I suppose the gooseneck makes it easier to position.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 27, 2016, 11:31:26 AM
Quote from: kashi on May 27, 2016, 09:36:42 AM
Last night I was researching powered hubs recommended for Gekkoscience USB miners. You need hubs that provide high power to be able to overclock them very much at all. More power than is needed for Block Erupter types I think.

Many (most?) powered hubs don't provide sufficient power for multiple overclocked Gekkoscience miners. The USB 3 one that had the highest recommendation that I saw was the Superbpag 7 port 70W one (http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM). However once again ran into the "doesn't post to Australia" roadblock everywhere. Same with the Plugable 7 port 60W (http://www.amazon.com/Plugable-SuperSpeed-Charging-Adapter-Support/dp/B00RM5OF70), which although I didn't see recommended anywhere for Gekkoscience miners should also be suitable.

There's a few suitable USB 2 type available to Australia such as Anker and Plugable.

For cooling them I read the Arctic Breeze Mobile USB fan  (http://www.amazon.com/ARCTIC-USB-Powered-Portable-Solution-Gooseneck/dp/B003XN24GY)was recommended in a few places. I suppose the gooseneck makes it easier to position.
Hey kashi! Thanks for doing the research on the powered hubs.  :worship I found the Anker but the Superbpag looks to be superior. I tried the USB fan Karen gave me but it did not move enough air to do anything noticeable. The Artic Breeze looks to be more robust. Heat has not been a problem though as it is cool enough to touch but as I add more something like that might help a lot.
Everything is still running great. I watched it do a million credits in the time it took me to eat lunch.  :dance:
I do not understand the no shipping to OZ ... it is not like you're on Mars or a Jovian moon.  ???
:AUS:
Edit: Just checked an it looks like I will get the Antminer U3 63 GH tomorrow. Then look out as I attempt warp speed.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on May 27, 2016, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: Dataman on May 27, 2016, 11:31:26 AM
....Edit: Just checked an it looks like I will get the Antminer U3 63 GH tomorrow. Then look out as I attempt warp speed.  :rofl:

Haha, we cannae take much more of this Captain. :jester:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 27, 2016, 11:02:03 PM
Quote from: kashi on May 27, 2016, 02:10:37 PM
Quote from: Dataman on May 27, 2016, 11:31:26 AM
....Edit: Just checked an it looks like I will get the Antminer U3 63 GH tomorrow. Then look out as I attempt warp speed.  :rofl:

Haha, we cannae take much more of this Captain. :jester:
:rofl:
Shields down and all power to the warp engines Scottie!
It's out for delivery.
Edit: Got it, installed it and it is running 20+ GH at warp 4.  :dance2:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on May 28, 2016, 12:15:52 PM
Scottee: Aye Captain, deuterium crystals are installed in warp drive. Remember, Mr Spock must install Vulcan Zadig software.

Spock: Such an oversight would be embarrassingly illogical Mr Scott. Live long and prosper!
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 28, 2016, 11:02:33 PM
I can't get this one to work. Have tried both 1.6 and 20 GH projects and multiple ports. They never complete and one ran 10+ hours last night. Can't think of anything else to try. :angry:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on May 29, 2016, 12:52:32 PM
I thought you may have forgotten to run Zadig hence my previous post.

Only thing I can think of is to uninstall Zadig and try installing it again.

I found this about how to install WinUSB driver with Zadig, perhaps the Antminer needs a different installation method to the Gekkoscience stick:

On Windows, the direct USB support requires the installation of a WinUSB driver (NOT the ftdi_sio driver), and attach it to the chosen USB device. When configuring your device, plug it in and wait for windows to attempt to install a driver on its own. It may think it has succeeded or failed but wait for it to finish regardless. This is NOT the driver you want installed. At this point you need to associate your device with the WinUSB driver. The easiest way to do this is to use the zadig utility which you must right click on and run as administrator. Then once you plug in your device you can choose the "list all devices" from the "option" menu and you should be able to see the device as something like: "BitFORCE SHA256 SC". Choose the install or replace driver option and select WinUSB.

Hope you can get it working.



Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 30, 2016, 01:08:45 AM
I finally got the antminer working on 1.6 GH... sorta. Will not run 20+ GH yet but will work on it later next week. It seems to lose contact sometimes but I just need to unplug it and immediately plug it back in and it starts going again.  ???

Excellent F1 race in Monaco this morning. Indy 500 next then Coca Cola 600 at NASCAR.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on May 30, 2016, 09:37:10 AM
I just ordered a GekkoScience USB Compac BTC Miner (8-16 GH/s @ 0.3w/GH). *SIDEHACK STICK* for $59.95 CAD from http://bitcoinware.net/, also has free shipping in Canada and ships overseas I believe.   The Blurb on it says it has same chip as the AntMiner S5    http://bitcoinware.net/collections/frontpage/products/gekkoscience-usb-compac-btc-miner

I believe that I can connect it to my Raspberry PI 2 as Bitcoin supports Raspbian for some of their sub projects.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on May 30, 2016, 11:42:53 AM
Glad you got it working Dataman. :thumbsup:

I had read U3s go "zombie" and need to be replugged every day, so you're not alone there.

More the merrier, Dingo. Pi + Gekkoscience will be a super efficient beast.

Yours will probably arrive before mine, it's been to oodles of different places in New York and now has just left Dubai, haha. Must be some some Irishmen working at USPS because it went to Rochester twice. "Why?": "To be sure, to be sure."
Stuff from Amazon sometimes came via Hawaii when it was mentioned, this is the first parcel I noticed via Dubai. It's probably a common route to Australia for USPS now, just never seen it before.

Departed   Dubai, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES   May 30, 2016 1:40 am
Departed   New York, UNITED STATES   May 28, 2016 4:30 pm
Arrived   New York, UNITED STATES   May 28, 2016 10:05 am
Processed Through Facility   ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)   May 27, 2016 5:54 pm
Arrived at USPS Facility   JAMAICA, NY 11430   May 27, 2016 10:22 am
Arrived at Facility   ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)   May 27, 2016 10:22 am
Arrived at USPS Facility   METRO, NY   May 26, 2016 6:05 am
Departed USPS Facility   ROCHESTER, NY 14606   May 26, 2016 5:23 am
Departed USPS Facility   BROOKLYN, NY 11256   May 26, 2016 4:59 am
Departed USPS Facility   ROCHESTER, NY 14606   May 26, 2016 1:47 am
Arrived at USPS Facility   ROCHESTER, NY 14606   May 25, 2016 10:09 pm
Accepted at USPS Origin Facility   BINGHAMTON, NY 13905   May 25, 2016 8:54 pm
Shipping Label Created   BINGHAMTON, NY 13905   May 25, 2016 5:47 pm
Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS      May 25, 2016
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 30, 2016, 01:38:28 PM
Our miners are in the same shipment Kashi :)
Tick tock, tick tock.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 31, 2016, 01:45:30 AM
Greetings mates! I thought you might want an update. I now have 4 Geko's and 1 Antminer running. One of the Geko's is flaky and stops working about every 30 minutes. If I unplug and replug it works for about another 30 minutes. I am sending it back and replacing it with another Antminer. The Antminer that is running is awesome and does a wu every minute or less.  :shock The Geko's do one about every 4 minutes. I have not tried to run the 20+ GH on the Antminer again but will try again when I have some time.
Yesterday I did 74 million credits at BU  :boom:
I started some Einstein on one machine for the AA. I will not be participating at WCG for this one.
Tomorrow we start a major construction project here. We are having our 900 sq ft. redwood deck demolished and a new one built. The existing one has served me well for 30+ years but is dangerously rotten.  We are excited and Karen has already ordered new deck furniture.  :rofl:
v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 31, 2016, 05:08:25 AM
Hi Dataman,

LOL..... you have the BU bug by the looks!  biggrin 4 Geko's and and Antminer. Well at least you can cut down on your heating bill in winter with all that gear! Still, there's room for improvement mate. I see the daily leader for BU pumps out 3.9BILLION/Day :shock :boom: haha

Deck sounds nice mate. I'd love to see some pics once its done.
For a laugh..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMkEfuWZHM
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 31, 2016, 05:36:16 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on May 31, 2016, 05:08:25 AM
..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMkEfuWZHM


:rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 31, 2016, 08:39:35 PM
Quote from: Dataman on May 31, 2016, 05:36:16 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on May 31, 2016, 05:08:25 AM
..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FGMkEfuWZHM


:rofl:


:rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 01, 2016, 06:32:49 PM
Hey Dataman, your Antminer U3, does it require a PSU unit to run? Same rectangular plug that PC's use?
Sorry let me rephrase that...I'm curious to know how they are powered? Obviously there's the USB connection for data but is there a separate power lead that pugs from the wall, into a power brick then into the U3?

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 01, 2016, 11:19:18 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on June 01, 2016, 06:32:49 PM
Hey Dataman, your Antminer U3, does it require a PSU unit to run? Same rectangular plug that PC's use?
Sorry let me rephrase that...I'm curious to know how they are powered? Obviously there's the USB connection for data but is there a separate power lead that pugs from the wall, into a power brick then into the U3?


Hi Chooka. Yes the Antminer comes with the miner, power supply, cable from the power supply to the miner and a USB cable. You have to supply the power cord from the wall socket to power supply. This is the same cord used to power a PC PSU or a monitor.

My deck is gone.  :shock It was there when the sun came up and gone by lunch time. Today they start pouring piers and repairing some dry rot on the sill of the house. Materials were delivered yesterday so I have a huge mountain of lumber, concrete and railings in the front drive. The dogs are confused because the back door is now a meter above their heads.  biggrin

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 02, 2016, 05:07:29 AM
Ah. Thank you DM :)
I'm sure your deck will be looking good as new in no time.  :mwalk:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 02, 2016, 01:52:06 PM
Quote from: kashi on May 30, 2016, 11:42:53 AM
Glad you got it working Dataman. :thumbsup:

I had read U3s go "zombie" and need to be replugged every day, so you're not alone there.

More the merrier, Dingo. Pi + Gekkoscience will be a super efficient beast.

Yours will probably arrive before mine, it's been to oodles of different places in New York and now has just left Dubai, haha. Must be some some Irishmen working at USPS because it went to Rochester twice. "Why?": "To be sure, to be sure."
Stuff from Amazon sometimes came via Hawaii when it was mentioned, this is the first parcel I noticed via Dubai. It's probably a common route to Australia for USPS now, just never seen it before.

Departed   Dubai, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES   May 30, 2016 1:40 am
Departed   New York, UNITED STATES   May 28, 2016 4:30 pm
Arrived   New York, UNITED STATES   May 28, 2016 10:05 am
Processed Through Facility   ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)   May 27, 2016 5:54 pm
Arrived at USPS Facility   JAMAICA, NY 11430   May 27, 2016 10:22 am
Arrived at Facility   ISC NEW YORK NY(USPS)   May 27, 2016 10:22 am
Arrived at USPS Facility   METRO, NY   May 26, 2016 6:05 am
Departed USPS Facility   ROCHESTER, NY 14606   May 26, 2016 5:23 am
Departed USPS Facility   BROOKLYN, NY 11256   May 26, 2016 4:59 am
Departed USPS Facility   ROCHESTER, NY 14606   May 26, 2016 1:47 am
Arrived at USPS Facility   ROCHESTER, NY 14606   May 25, 2016 10:09 pm
Accepted at USPS Origin Facility   BINGHAMTON, NY 13905   May 25, 2016 8:54 pm
Shipping Label Created   BINGHAMTON, NY 13905   May 25, 2016 5:47 pm
Pre-Shipment Info Sent to USPS      May 25, 2016

Gez mate, Love it how once our items reach Australia they seem to drop off the radar :/
I can only imagine that I might get mine tomorrow??? What state are you in Kashi?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 02, 2016, 03:13:11 PM
I'm at Point Clare, NSW which is near Gosford.

Got mine today from the postman. Not bad, 8 days from the US, for AU$34 delivery for such a small packet you'd hope for some speed.*

Delivered   AUSTRALIA   June 2, 2016 12:33 pm
Processed Through Facility   AUSTRALIA   May 31, 2016 5:43 pm
Departed   Sydney, AUSTRALIA   May 31, 2016 7:06 am
Departed   Dubai, UNITED ARAB EMIRATES   May 30, 2016 1:40 am

Hope you get yours soon.

Meanwhile, joined the team and Thunderbirds are go, cooking with gas. :thumbsup:

These little buggers run hot, grabbed the heatsink to check and yeeouch!

The little purple light that flashes is brighter than a disco strobe too.
Cue KC and the Sunshine Band: That's the way, ah-huh, ah-huh, I like it, ah-huh, ah-huh.  :dance2:

*Much better than the duallie motherboard I bought from Germany at the start of April. What was supposed to be a 1-2 weeks delay turned into an 8 week delay. They just posted it yesterday and so far it has gone from Obertshausen to Saulheim, haha. Was positive it wasn't going to come at all, so haven't bought a PSU or memory yet. Will probably get an EVGA 850 P2 PSU (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B010HWDOH6), would prefer a Titanium model but they are too expensive. 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 02, 2016, 04:39:14 PM
Ah, Im in QLD so maybe tomorrow for me. No update since the 31st.

I'm a bit worried about how hot these are. Mines going to be plugged into the back of my mobo and nearly touching the wall. Hope it doesn't burn my house down. :thumbdown:

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 02, 2016, 05:37:30 PM
I'm using a USB extension cable with mine. Cable came with a Corsair USB stick. Case has USB ports on the top at the front so just got it hanging down past the front of case for now.

Will have to work out how to block the light somehow without making it hotter or the bright flickering will drive me crazy when trying to sleep. Found a spare 120mm fan, don't think wires are long enough though to reach motherboard. I've got a fan wire extension but will be hard to find as it is in a box somewhere.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 02, 2016, 05:39:03 PM
I am still waiting for mine to start it's journey.  It was a long weekend in the states last weekend so nothing happened till Tuesday.  It has just turned over to Thursday (00:40hrs) here and my miner is in Toronto, ON Canada so only 4500 km to go to get to me.....
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 02, 2016, 05:59:01 PM
Quote from: kashi on June 02, 2016, 05:37:30 PM
I'm using a USB extension cable with mine. Cable came with a Corsair USB stick. Case has USB ports on the top at the front so just got it hanging down past the front of case for now.

Will have to work out how to block the light somehow without making it hotter or the bright flickering will drive me crazy when trying to sleep. Found a spare 120mm fan, don't think wires are long enough though to reach motherboard. I've got a fan wire extension but will be hard to find as it is in a box somewhere.

Bit of blu tac maybe? My wife hates the blue LED on my sub woofer and made me put blu tac on it.  :blush1: You know who wears the pants in this household.

I have a couple of USB ports at the front but sounds like this thing would be a heat hazard for my 3yr old.

Can't believe how quickly Dataman has gone from Zilch to nearly 400Mil!! :boom: He'll need a widescreen monitor soon to fit in all the numbers at that rate. 000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 02, 2016, 06:47:12 PM
Ah some blu tac, not sure about that, I'll work something out.

I hooked up the spare fan and used an additional USB cable to extend even further. Green light comes on but won't mine at all, seems that 2nd cable can't pass enough power even though it works fine to transfer ebooks from my computer to my mum's Kobo reader. Put it back on the original cable and away it crunched again. Fussy on the USB power these Gekko sticks.

Hope Dataman isn't using BOINC 7.6.9, it stops showing Bitcoin Utopia credit properly after it gets up somewhere in the billions. Something about using 32-bit and showing commas in the figure.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 02, 2016, 11:04:54 PM
Nothing but bad luck for me.  :furious: I got the 2nd antminer and device manager in Win 10 will not recognize it as a USB device. Worse, the first antminer stopped working. Now two if the Geko's are flaky and have to be replugged every few hours. The other two are rock solid. No time to work on them.

It will be 40C here today so I only have two machines running. We are thinking of going to the coast while they finish the deck. Much cooler there.

:hbang:


Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 03, 2016, 02:23:26 AM
Yep, bad day for hardware. I actually bought 2 Gekkoscience sticks, seeing as the postage was the same for 2 as 1. Been mucking around with the second one for an hour or more now and it just won't go. Activity LED gives a few white flashes as though it is about to do something, but it doesn't do any work at all. DOA. Ah well, at least it was only $55.

The other strange thing is when I blow a fan on the working one, it sometimes is unable to be detected correctly so can take 10 minutes or longer for a task. When I let it run scorching hot with no fan, so far it runs without trouble and never takes more than 5 minutes per task. ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 03, 2016, 03:09:55 AM
Quote from: kashi on June 03, 2016, 02:23:26 AM
Yep, bad day for hardware. I actually bought 2 Gekkoscience sticks, seeing as the postage was the same for 2 as 1. Been mucking around with the second one for an hour or more now and it just won't go. Activity LED gives a few white flashes as though it is about to do something, but it doesn't do any work at all. DOA. Ah well, at least it was only $55.

The other strange thing is when I blow a fan on the working one, it sometimes is unable to be detected correctly so can take 10 minutes or longer for a task. When I let it run scorching hot with no fan, so far it runs without trouble and never takes more than 5 minutes per task. ???
Yep, I feel for you mate. The Dataman Mine is closed for repairs.  :furious: One Geko is dead and one is unstable. Two are working good. I got windows to finally recognize the antminers, installed the driver and device manager reports them as working OK. However the wu's run but time out after two hours after apparently doing nothing.
For once I agree with Karen that I am spending too much time on this. She packed our bags, I put the top down and we are going to the coast for some cool breeze and ocean view.
:jester: When the going gets tough, we leave town! :jester:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 03, 2016, 04:59:25 AM
Oh boy........ I'm glad I've only bought the one USB miner.
I couldn't justify the cost on spending more money on such a specific piece of hardware.
Have fun DM.  :AUS:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 03, 2016, 12:05:44 PM
Getting ready to go to dinner in town. We are here:
http://www.greywhaleinn.com/
Listening to the surf is much better than listening to power saws and nail guns.  :dance: Much cooler too.

On the drive over here it occurred to me that the Gecko miner is a perfect example of the Schrödinger's Cat Physics thought experiment. The Gecko is alive and dead until being observed as alive or dead.  :wink Score one for Quantum Mechanics.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Schr%C3%B6dinger%27s_cat

:cheers:

EDIT: @kashi: Power screw?   ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 03, 2016, 01:55:35 PM
Hmmm so Dataman said that the Geko does WU's about every 4mins so I'm guessing the 1x 1.6GH WU I'm running now which is taking over 20min means something isn't right. :/
26min so far for 96%.

The config file obviously worked because I've received work units. I installed zdig and the driver required then restarted BOINC.

Hmm... seems I need to play around a bit. Kashi, how long do your 1.6GH WU's take?

Edit - I got it working...kind of (this is sounding familiar) I actually think its the USB connection that is poorly made. I transferred the miner to another USB port and noticed for the first time the purple light which you mentioned Kashi. Previously it was just a green power light.
However after the first WU, I could hear a really, really high pitched noise coming from the miner and no flashing purple light for the next WU. I wiggled the miner slightly and the purple light started flashing and the miner stopped with the ear piercing screech.
As I type I've noticed the same thing happening again. Next WU has started but no purple light :/
These things are too temperamental.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 03, 2016, 02:40:57 PM
Ah Grey Whale Inn, great name.

And in Mendocino, too.

Immediately brings the song to mind. Good, that will help erase current Black Is Black and The Toys - Lover's Concerto earworms.

Fast talkin' guys with strange red eyes
Have put things in your head

And started your mind to wonderin'
I love you so, please don't go
Please stay here with me in Mendocino.
Mendocino, Mendocino,

Where life's such a groove
You blow your mind in the morning.


Hope you have a pleasant time.

We just got our deck repaired yesterday, imported Oregon is horrid for decks in Australian weather, always rots. Must be cheaper than other wood, that's why they keep using it, this is the 3rd house we've had with rotting Oregon decks.

Don't know about Schrodinger's cat, I reckon my 2nd Gekko is not really green but a Norwegian Blue. It's not really dead, just pining for the fjords.

Actually got it to go for one task by playing with the power screw. Bit dicey I suppose, think you're meant to measure the voltage when adjusting that screw.
The power screw is the little silver thing (potentiometer?) with the recessed Philips head to the left of the silver USB connector that sticks out. Wouldn't start the next task though so I gave up.

It's a very fine adjustment, so be careful as it's probably possible to overvolt it and blow it up. In other words, that's why it's recommended using a multimeter to check the voltage. I will read some more about it but the support thread is so gigantic I just had a quick look. I think to the left is less and to the right is more but you should check any of this for yourself.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173963.0

My working stick is currently showing an average time of 3 mins 42 secs in BOINC Manager, generally tasks take between 3 to 4.5 minutes, there's some outliers under 2 minutes but almost none over 5 minutes. If you see really long ones in my lists of tasks, that will be where I've been trying to get the 2nd stick to work and swapping between sticks.

Agree they're too temperamental, in fact they're a right bastard.  :pcwhack:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 03, 2016, 05:02:14 PM
Thanks mate.
Yeah I feel that I've wasted my money.  :hbang: In 4 hrs I've only completed 7 tasks.
It's flaky as.  :thumbdown:

Doesn't matter which USB port I use. Oh look...I unplugged it and plugged it back in for the hundredth time and its decided to work again. EXTREMELY FLAKY.

I can only assume it the device itself.
Oh well.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 03, 2016, 11:48:13 PM
I love the smell of cool, salt air as I lie warm in a super-soft bed. They make their own breakfast pastries here and I ate so many it was almost embarrassing.  :drool:

Admit it Kashi. You have an advanced alien intelligence that is not of this earth!!!  biggrin I would have never noticed a screw on a IC card. Delicate adjustment? You mean I can't use my 18 V cordless screwdriver? I look at it this way; it does not work now so if I blow it up then it will not work then either. I will 'screw it" when I get back.

Ahhh, it is a beautiful morning here. The kind that make you damn glad you are still alive. We are off to take a walk on the beach.

"Life is good and it just keeps working out."

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 04, 2016, 08:31:51 AM
Well sadly guys I think I'm going to give up on my ASIC miner :thumbdown:
I find that no matter which USB port I use, it often completes one task then needs to be hotplugged about 10 times before it works again. That's just not practical. :compbash:

I can only imagine that perhaps we shouldn't have strayed from the BU list of working devices. It seems that Jugnut's BiFury is consistent.

I might persist on and off to try to get it to work (try a hub maybe?) or contact the supplier for any tips.
Happy crunching all.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 04, 2016, 10:03:09 AM
Breakfast pastries sounds yum. Not something I'm familiar with.

Nothing like the smell of salt air to clear the head. Except for a surf of course, getting a bit of salt water up the nose from catching a few waves is better than reaching for the neti pot. A decent surf, a few rays, now there's something that builds a mighty hunger and sometimes requires a nice cold ale or 2 as well. Even dunking your head in the salt water gives a lot of benefit if surf is too rough or swim fitness has left the building.

Haha, I have no experience with electronics, can't even use a soldering iron. Did buy one a few years ago, only managed to burn myself and make a mess on my desk. Old Klipsch speaker needing repair still sits next to my bed, I've got new titanium tweeter diaphragms from Bob Crites waiting for Godot. No Vulcan intelligence here, I read about the little adjustment pot on that Gekko support thread.

Well the warning to be careful was aimed at chooka as well, since he has only one, not 2 or more like you and I. So feel free to go to town. I'm going to leave further fiddling with my 2nd stick until I get a powered hub. The one that works on my new computer will not work at all on my old computer, so the compatibility/power of the USB port is obviously one of the main factors affecting whether or not these sticks work reliably or at all.

Edit: That's a shame chooka, yes try a hub. Also give that support thread some study if you haven't already. I'll probably be ordering the Plugable USB 2 60W hub (http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00L2LK164) from Amazon later today, my motherboard has moved to Frankfurt so I need a PSU now, so I'll be able to combine shipping. It's US$35 but recommended: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1343497.msg13719840#msg13719840

Pity I can't get the little Arctic Breeze USB fan anywhere, was using an old case fan and managed to jam my fingers in the spinning blades twice. Maybe I can find some cheap crap similar on AliExpress. Don't need a fan unless overclocked, my working stick misbehaves when cooled, runs more reliably boiling hot, haha.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 04, 2016, 12:15:22 PM
Hi Kashi,

Oh I won't be playing with the voltage on mine. I think it will be a matter of time before it ends up in land fill or a recycling station.
I wouldn't mind buying a hub but I'd like it to be USB3.0. We are heading towards USB 3.1 so USB 2.0 is too obsolete for my liking. Also, I don't know how to buy off Amazon US. I've heard there's a way to do it but I'm not sure how.

Other than BU, I don't really have need for a hub so again I don't think I can justify the expense. As much as I love BOINC, I think sometimes I need to take a step back and acknowledge...... that it is just BOINC.
Perhaps it might just take a while to get over this guttered feeling of wasting near $100.00.

Plenty of rain here in Brisvegas today. Power even went out for a few hours this morning.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 04, 2016, 10:30:37 PM
Hey Kashi,

After trolling through numerous forums, I also came across this hub as being recommended.

http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 04, 2016, 11:19:34 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on June 04, 2016, 10:30:37 PM
Hey Kashi,

After trolling through numerous forums, I also came across this hub as being recommended.

http://www.amazon.com/Superbpag-Portable-Charger-Transfer-Samsung/dp/B013OK10YM


That is the one I bought. Works great. I suggest you try a voltage adjustment and get your stick working. The more I read, the Gecko is NOT adjusted at the factory and I bet you an OZ dollar it is under voltage and that is why it is unstable. Rotate it slightly clockwise in small increments until it is stable. I am going to clock mine as soon as I get back home.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 05, 2016, 03:29:59 AM
Yep, don't just chuck it out if you can't get it to work. Take your time to think about having a go at the screw and/or seek advice from the seller or manufacturer.

Yes I mentioned that recommended Superbpag USB 3 hub in a previous post. Unfortunately it is unavailable to be shipped to Australia. 

I can understand you not wanting to spend that much on a powered hub just for 1 stick. I was reluctant to get the Plugable USB 2 hub as well, now that USB 3 is current. However USB 3 hubs often don't work with Raspberry Pi if I ever get one and also can interfere with radio. And of course I don't actually need a USB 3 hub for anything yet.

In the past I've mainly bought records on Amazon US, due to a combination of greater availability, better price and relatively very cheap delivery charges. Apparently Collectors Choice Music is often now cheaper but I haven't bought anything from them yet.

Buying from Amazon US is easy, all you need is a credit card and patience to wait until stuff arrives. Deliveries although cheap are sometimes very slow especially at Christmas season when Aussie customs holds everything up. I always buy in US dollars and let my credit card do the conversion because it's cheaper than letting Amazon do the conversion to AU$. Have purchased many records from Amazon US, a few from Amazon UK and once an Oscar Peterson box set from Amazon Germany.

Also purchased a few bits of hardware from Amazon US, either unavailable in Australia or specials listed on OzBargain site such as M.2 SSDs, flash sticks, wireless mice, etc. and once a Timex watch for my brother's birthday. Although there's quite a lot that can't be shipped to Australia they have some great specials surprisingly often as their pricing model is a bit different to most Australian online shops and for some classes of goods fluctuates quite a lot.

Can be a little frustrating if you miss a bargain by delaying. They had a very good discount on an eVGA 850W T2 Titanium PSU a month ago but I decided not to buy then as the Germans were mucking me around delaying the dual motherboard. At the start of May it went back up to US$219.99.

Wouldn't purchase more expensive computer hardware from Amazon unless it was unavailable or eye wateringly expensive in Australia AND had international warranty such as eVGA brand.

Perhaps try it out with something small to get the hang of it and see how you go. You may enjoy it. We all need to buy stuff now and again and Amazon is the biggest shop in the Western world. 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 05, 2016, 07:47:41 AM
Ah thanks for those tips Dataman & Kashi.

I found out you can get goods posted to Aus by creating an account with Shopmate - https://shopmate.auspost.com.au/ This is what a few friends & family use.
Interesting fact about the conversion rate. Thanks for sharing that!  :thumbsup:

I let it go overnight and it seems to have done ok except for a 2hr stopage then when the WU timed out it seems to have started again until another roughly 2hr stopage. *sigh*

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?userid=6049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

Well at least I can see the potential of what it can do if you are just running 1 of these Kashi. 11Mil/day.
Enjoy what's left of the weekend all :)

Oh ps.... From what I read on forums last night, it seems we are using the stores which the fanboi's suggest - Holy Bitcoin, Eyeboot & Bitcoinware.net. They also mentioned ASICPuppy (How cool is that name!) but htye have bugger all stock vs the other stores which are sold out.
I think we have been looking at hardware during a popular time for Bitcoin. Seems the price has broken out above resistance at $465.00. (One of my hobbies is share trading and candlestick charting :)) Might explain why the world has sold out of miners.

http://www.coindesk.com/price/


:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 05, 2016, 08:18:11 AM
Looking at the photo in this thread, the flat part on the potentiometer on mine is exactly opposite the one in this photo. I'm assuming if I was to place it in the same position as the photo, that would be the maximum?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173963.0

I'm sure turning it 1 mm - 2mm at a time would be the safest bet.

Haven't got much to lose.

Looks like I need to get myself a mutimeter.
My initial findings are when I back the screw off a little, I got some activity as indicated by the purple flashing light but the flashes were slower and the WU was barely making progress,,,,, consistant with less voltage I guess.
I've since wound it back to where it was and the activity has picked up but I'm not game to increase the voltage without a mutimeter. Good excuse to either A)visit the shops or B) visit the parents as dads will have one :)

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 05, 2016, 05:56:49 PM
So went to my nephews b'day party today and in that time, 1 WU times out after 7234 seconds @ 2:41 UTC. The next task completed at 3:58 UTC after running for 4588 seconds. This was followed by another WU which took about the same time (4352 sec) to complete. So it seems if I just leave it it eventually starts working again but with horribly long durations.

Righto so the mutimeter tells me that my miner is working at 0.62V which is at the lower end of the acceptable range. When it stops working again....which it will, I'll play around a bit more. Right now though, its been working for a few hours.
Talk about inconsistant.  ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 05, 2016, 08:15:12 PM
WOW....touch wood its having a good run now. Looks like 5 hrs without stopping  ???
Touchwood, touchwood,touchwood  :bloodshot While it's running I'm not game to touch it at all let alone play with the voltage now.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 05, 2016, 10:35:19 PM
Got mine working again. The unstable one ran all night without invalids. The "dead" one ran all night with 2 invalids but seems to recover itself. Will work on it today. All 4 Geckos are running. Now if I can only get the 2 antminers going.
Looks like a 37 million credit day.

Home again to the heat. 36.5 C today. We would have stayed another day but our room was booked for today.
:oz:

EDIT: Cranked up the power to the unstable one and it is good so far. Need to buy more Articbreeze fans though. The antminers are very frustrating though. They both can't be defective. I am doing something wrong but damned if I can figure it out.  :hbang:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 06, 2016, 01:18:10 AM
I ordered two of the same gekko stick miners that you guys did from Holy Bitcoin at around the same time most you guys did, so they should be here monday or tuesday.  I sure hope mine are trouble free but since there all from the same batch I kinda doubt it.

Those Artic breeze USB cooling fans are still available on E-bay if anyone still looking but there not cheap.  http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Arctic+Breeze+Mobile+USB+Fan&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_trksid=p2050601.m570.l1313.TR0.TRC0.H0.TRS0&_nkw=Arctic+Breeze+Mobile+USB+Fan&_sacat=0)

Or I guess you could get the cheaper ones? Though i'm not sure how good they'd be?  Anyone tried fans like these? http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=Mobile+USB+Fan&_sop=15&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R7.TR12.TRC2.A0.H1.XUSB+Fan.TRS0&_nkw=mini+usb+fan&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=Mobile+USB+Fan&_sop=15&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R7.TR12.TRC2.A0.H1.XUSB+Fan.TRS0&_nkw=mini+usb+fan&_sacat=0)

Personally I think i'll still use USB extension leads like kashi mentioned. Which is how i've had my Bi Fury almost from day one. This time instead of the huge cooler master heat sink I have on top of it now I think i'll use some old celeron & pentium 4 heatsinks I have spare and just zip tie them to the little beasties.  If I get game enough I think the best idea might be to remove the dinky little heatsinks altogether & replace them with the before mentioned heatsinks and use thermal glue to keep them there.  Since there on USB extention cords size is of little concern.

I wonder if there's any difference between gekko sticks? They seem to be all the same chipset but perhaps just have different board partners? But I wonder? Are these identical to the ones you guys have? (except for the heatsinks of course) https://www.bitshopper.de/shop/sha-256-miner-en/gekkoscience-compac/?lang=en (https://www.bitshopper.de/shop/sha-256-miner-en/gekkoscience-compac/?lang=en)


PS: I've been extremely crook lately with a wicked case of the flu.  This years wog is the worst I can ever remember having so if at all possible do yourself a favour & avoid it, err like the plague ;)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 06, 2016, 02:16:39 AM
Speedy recovery to you JugNut.
This is what I found on getting an antminer U3 to work at BU. It is all just gibberish to me.  ??? Looks like  my two are destined to be pretty paperweights. Later I may try to learn how to use them to mine bitcoins for me but until then I am shutting them down. The unstable Gecko is still causing the occasional invalid but at least it is running again. The other 3 are doing well.



dirty way of getting u3 to run on BU with windows..

download 7zip and install

http://www.7-zip.org/

download cgminer version 4.9.0 and only 4.9.0......4.9.1 don't work and unzip somewhere but remember where...

http://ck.kolivas.org/apps/cgminer/4.9/

do not mix miners on the same computer/host, will cause problems!....
assuming that U3 are the only miner(s) attached to the computer!!!!!!
and assuming that BU is the only project attached to BOINC


pick your campaign 20+ on your account web page settings.

start BOINC, and let it download the files.
assuming you have already plugged in the U3 and did the driver set up.

you should see the task(s) running in the manager.

go the the Activity tab at the top and click suspend to suspend BOINC from running, making sure you have the box unchecked in the options 3 tap to not leave app in memory while suspended, again unchecked...

go to the place where you unzipped cgminer version 4.9.0

right click on cgminer.exe

move the mouse down to 7zip which will bring up a 2nd set of options
move the mouse down to add to archive
left click which brings up a options screen

upper right you will see a button with ... in it

below that you will see archive format, change that to zip
across from the you will see update mode, change to add and replace files

now click the button with ... and navigate to the BU project directory and select one of the .zip files, eg.. cgminer-rbox_9_win32_00003.zip

click ok, it will add/replace the cgminer.exe with the one from version 4.9.0, that is the only file that I find you need to replace.

do that for each of the rbox ....zip files that you are running..

next any BU tasks cgmimer tasks that had started before you suspended boinc you will need to copy the cgminer.exe file from the 4.9.0 unzipped directory to the slot directory(s)

after that you can go and resume BOINC via the Activity tab at top of the of the BOINC manager in advance view.

at which point if you added the 4.9.0 version cgminer.exe to all the cgminer .zip files in BU directory, that you plan on using your U3 for, and copied over the 4.9.0 cgminer.exe to the slots where it alread started,
you should be able to look in the stderr.txt file in the slot and see that it has started cgminer version 4.9.0 and not 4.7.1 and has found your U3, again version 4.7.1 and version 4.9.1 will not find your U3 and again don't mix miners on the same host/computer.. it will make a mess of things, maybe not right away, but you may find that cgminer thinks that your u2 is an U3 and trying to reset it every 1 second. the green light will go crazy and the cpu usage to go through the roof.


sad note: if you ever shutdown boinc/stop running apps, or reboot the computer
when BOINC starts back up, just about every cgminer task that you
have on the computer that your running or ready to start will error
out.
till BOINC client download a new copy of that cgminer .zip file, at
which point BU task will not find your U3.

and you get to do it all again.. (better yet would be for the BU powers that be to set up the U3 task with version 4.9.0 so you don't need to do this.)

btw: you can command line 7zip to do this in a .bat file, but I'll let you work that out.
btw2: I have 2 U3 running the 20+ task right now, on a host by them self, no mixing of miners... and they are very happy mining away.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 06, 2016, 02:23:40 AM
Quote from: JugNut on June 06, 2016, 01:18:10 AM
Anyone tried fans like these? http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=Mobile+USB+Fan&_sop=15&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R7.TR12.TRC2.A0.H1.XUSB+Fan.TRS0&_nkw=mini+usb+fan&_sacat=0 (http://www.ebay.com.au/sch/i.html?_odkw=Mobile+USB+Fan&_sop=15&_osacat=0&_from=R40&_trksid=p2045573.m570.l1311.R7.TR12.TRC2.A0.H1.XUSB+Fan.TRS0&_nkw=mini+usb+fan&_sacat=0)

These are the ones I mentioned that Karen gave me. They DO NOT move enough air to do anything and the prop on one of them keeps spinning off. The ArticBreeze moves 10 times the amount of air.

QuoteIf I get game the best idea would be to remove the dinky little heatsinks altogether & replace them with the before mentioned heatsinks and use thermal glue to keep them there.
You might try removing the existing one and use it as a template to drill holes in the new one and reattach with the same screws.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 06, 2016, 05:10:17 AM
Well mine has been running all night (unbelievable) but a stack of invalids (26)
I'm tempted to play with the voltage but Im also scared to actually touch the temperamental bastard as well  :pcwhack:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 06, 2016, 05:43:15 AM
Jugnut:  the GekkoScience USB Compac BTC Miner (8-16 GH/s @ 0.3w/GH). *SIDEHACK STICK* I ordered and is still on the way across Canada looks the same and also has the same Blurb as the one in your link.   It should arrive by the 9th June, a long time coming but free delivery..........
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 06, 2016, 07:22:14 AM
@ Dataman: Geez mate did you do all those instructions? It was enough just reading it to give me a headache & send me straight back to bed again.  Now it could just be the flu hitting me once more but it could also be that I bought a second hand U3 off ebay last week? Whatever is was they both have one thing in common & that's there both starting to give me sh!#$.

@ Chooka: Well a least your moving forward at a good clip, i'm glad your finally having some success and getting some value out of your purchase,  keep at it mate.  :thumbsup:

@ Dingo:  Yea it looks like there are a few different looking models with just a different heatsink on them.  At least I hope thats the only difference between them. I ordered pretty much the same day as kashi and chooka did, like kashi's & chooka's it's been to almost every corner of the globe before getting here. The route they take is incredible,  like chooka's mine moved around the US for a few days then to Jamaica, then back to the USA again then... well who knows? No wonder some of them a buggered by the time they get here,  that one heck of a trip.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 06, 2016, 07:32:38 AM
Quote from: JugNut on June 06, 2016, 01:18:10 AM

I wonder if there's any difference between gekko sticks? They seem to be all the same chipset but perhaps just have different board partners? But I wonder? Are these identical to the ones you guys have? (except for the heatsinks of course) https://www.bitshopper.de/shop/sha-256-miner-en/gekkoscience-compac/?lang=en (https://www.bitshopper.de/shop/sha-256-miner-en/gekkoscience-compac/?lang=en)


PS: I've been extremely crook lately with a wicked case of the flu.  This years wog is the worst I can ever remember having so if at all possible do yourself a favour & avoid it, err like the plague ;)

Hi Jugnuts, hope your feeling better soon mate!
As Dingo said, we have the sidehack units with the green heatsink, purchased from Holy Bitcoin. Maybe the one in your link are the first batch? $50.00 Euro looks quite expensive + shipping.
Gee I considered buying a U3 when more stock was available but I think I'll pass now given the trouble you're having.

I've been asking some questions on the Bitcoin Utopia message boards and you can actually contact the makers & testers of the Gekoscience units which is sidehack & Novak.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1173963.0
I haven't messaged these guys direct but I guess you won't get much closer to the source than these guys!

Hey Dingo, if you have a multimeter handy, would you mind checking the V output on your new sticks? I confess I didn't take a baseline reading BEFORE I started tinkering with the voltage screw. As mentioned before I backed my V screw off and then screwed it back roughly to the position it arrived in. For all I know that might have been .01V more and that is why mine is actually working now. Currently still sitting at 0.62V.
How did you score free delivery Dingo? Is it because you ordered 2 units that they offered the free shipping? Doesn't say on their website.

I'm at work for the day now so won't be able to check mine till late tonight.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 06, 2016, 07:36:31 AM
Quote from: JugNut on June 06, 2016, 07:22:14 AM
@ Dingo:  Yea it looks like there are a few different looking models with just a different heatsink on them.  At least I hope thats the only difference between them. I ordered pretty much the same day as kashi and chooka did, like kashi's & chooka's it's been to almost every corner of the globe before getting here. The route they take is incredible,  like chooka's mine moved around the US for a few days then to Jamaica, then back to the USA again then... well who knows? No wonder some of them a buggered by the time they get here,  that one heck of a trip.


LOL :rofl: I dunno mate...... It took me an hour just to open all the packaging that mine was sent in. :)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 06, 2016, 09:04:41 AM
LOL JugNut. No I did not do any of that as it makes no sense to me. It may as well be written in ancient Sanskrit. I did order two more Geckos and a fan though. Suddenly there are tons of them available and these were $57 USD with free shipping from Amazon.
I am really bummed out over the U3's. The more I read about them they do not perform well anyway. Most non-bu mining they barely do 30-40 GH. I should have read more before buying them. Oh well, it is a learning experience.  :panic: All 4 Geckos are running good now after many adjustments.

It is too damn hot here. I am down to running two machines. Not doing too much with the AA but every bit helps.

They made a lot of progress on the deck while we were gone. They may finish tomorrow and certainly by Tuesday. It looks so good. Karen already has the new deck furniture assembled. I was wondering what she was doing in the garage this morning while I was fiddling with Geckos.
HELP! Can anyone remind me how to post a picture here? I have forgotten. I will post some deck pics when they get finished.

:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 06, 2016, 12:12:02 PM
Hi DM,

When you write a post (like I'm going now), up the top under "message Icon" there is a button which looks like a picture. You can inset a picture that way.
(//)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 06, 2016, 05:31:10 PM
@Dataman you can add a picture when in your post there is a button at the bottom "Additional Options" press that and you can choose your file from your PC but there looks like there is a 200 KB limit.


@JugNut 
QuoteHey Dingo, if you have a multimeter handy, would you mind checking the V output on your new sticks? I confess I didn't take a baseline reading BEFORE I started tinkering with the voltage screw. As mentioned before I backed my V screw off and then screwed it back roughly to the position it arrived in. For all I know that might have been .01V more and that is why mine is actually working now. Currently still sitting at 0.62V.
How did you score free delivery Dingo? Is it because you ordered 2 units that they offered the free shipping? Doesn't say on their website.

I am still waiting for mine to arrive.  Supposed to be here on the 09 Jun.  I don't have a multimeter though sorry.  I live in Canada during the summer here so the web site had free delivery in Canada.   It is free but very very slow. :AUS: :can

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 07, 2016, 01:01:21 AM
Hope you're feeling better soon JugNut.

Glad that a few of you have got your Gekkos working now. I still haven't had another fiddle with my other one yet. Slack that I am, haven't completely cured the strobe light show all night, don't want to stop it while it's working. Have just surrounded it with little business cards for now, but it still flashes onto the ceiling. Another one flashing away would just be too much.

Re the different looking one on bitshopper.de site. Yes, "MacEntyre" of bitshopper.de is manufacturing them under licence for European market. On the back is printed "Assembled in Germany by bitshopper.de - Under license of GekkoScience". It explains in this thread (https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1141518.0) why they are more expensive than US produced ones and shows the different heatsink. Other than the heatsink and black PCB rather than green, the hardware and circuit design should be the same though.

I noticed this on the bitshopper.de listing too, "Please note: An active USB hub with adequate power supply is highly recommended (such as Anker 9-Port, Asicminer 49-Port, Orico 10-Port)". "Active USB hub is highly recommended" was mentioned twice before this as well. Hmm, 3 times proves it, maybe they're trying to really tell us something there!

BTW, I think "Jamaica" is in the borough of Queens, New York confusingly, not the island.

Q. What is Jamaica, Queens, named after? The Caribbean island?

A. Nope. Beavers.

Jamaica wasn't the settlement's first name. In 1655, English colonists from Massachusetts and eastern Long Island established a town, Rusdorf, in the area the Dutch called Rustdorp ("rest-town").

By the end of the 17th century, after the English takeover of the colony, the English had renamed it Jamaica.

According to "The Neighborhoods of Queens" by Claudia Gryvatz Copquin, the word is believed to have been derived from the Jameco, or Yamecah, Indians who first lived there; "jameco" is the Algonquin word for "beaver." There is a Beaver Road in Jamaica, but it is north of Jamaica Bay, where the Jameco Indians lived along the shore.

Thanks for finding the gooseneck USB fans, though I think they're a bit expensive for me, so will use one of the other old heatsink fans I have about the place.

Just ordered a PSU and USB hub from Amazon, wouldn't accept PSU order to Australia for the last day, but now it's working. Must have been my whingeing about it here before I edited this post that fixed it. Arriving June 20-23, that's quick, records used to take up to 5 weeks or sometimes longer.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 07, 2016, 03:47:32 AM
The Mastiff stands guard to attack the demons which cause invalid wu's.  :wink I am done adjusting and no failures since then. :yahoo:
:oz:


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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 07, 2016, 05:33:33 AM
Yesterday I ordered a Anker USB 3.0 7-Port Hub  (https://www.amazon.ca/Anker-Charging-Adapter-Included-VL812-B2/dp/B014ZQ07NE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1465241303&sr=8-1&keywords=Anker+USB+3.0+7-Port+Hub+with+1+BC+1.2) from Amazon.ca as well as a HDMI splitter so I can hook up both RAspberry's to my monitor.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 07, 2016, 07:48:36 AM
Quote from: Dingo on June 06, 2016, 05:31:10 PM
I am still waiting for mine to arrive.  Supposed to be here on the 09 Jun.  I don't have a multimeter though sorry.  I live in Canada during the summer here so the web site had free delivery in Canada.   It is free but very very slow. :AUS: :can

Ahhhh I see. Nice. I'd love to visit Canada one day. Looks beautiful.
No worries about the multimeter. Seems my stick is running ok now but boy has it been frustrating to get there. Not sure if it was me fiddling with the voltage screw that made the difference.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 07, 2016, 02:01:28 PM
@ kashi: Thanks,  and thanks for the geography lesson mate.  Your right I looked at Jamaica but didn't notice the NY after it.  After seeing Dubai, as one of the parcels destinations Jamaica didn't seem to far fetched.  That's an interesting story though.   
I currently live in a suburb named Rooty Hill, now there's a set up for a non PG history lesson if ever i've heard one?

@ Dingo: Yea I bought a 7 slotter as well I figured a 10 slotter was going a bit far. https://www.mwave.com.au/product/orico-a3h7bk-7port-superspeed-usb-30-hub-black-ab56381#detailTabs=tabSpecifications (https://www.mwave.com.au/product/orico-a3h7bk-7port-superspeed-usb-30-hub-black-ab56381#detailTabs=tabSpecifications)

I started to run out of HDMI ports long ago and bought a few cheapies like theses guys  http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1080P-Full-HD-HDTV-5-Port-HDMI-Splitter-Switch-Switcher-Box-with-Remote-Control-/331715325203?hash=item4d3bc62d13:g:~TcAAOSwgyxWUqbY (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/1080P-Full-HD-HDTV-5-Port-HDMI-Splitter-Switch-Switcher-Box-with-Remote-Control-/331715325203?hash=item4d3bc62d13:g:~TcAAOSwgyxWUqbY)
Strangely only one of them would never work OK with my PC's but when my two new Raspberry Pi's 3's arrived I tried it on them and it works perfectly. The Pi's on the other hand are a bit underwhelming so far.  And dont get me started on Linux/Raspbian, but i'm getting there,  besides nothing ventured & all that.

@ Dataman:  Nice Bully  :thumbsup:

@ Everyone else: My 2 Gekko's came today but so far I haven't had the energy to get out of my sick bed to set them up.  Maybe tomorrow?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 08, 2016, 12:54:43 AM
Oh I don't know, tree roots on a hill on Norfolk Island shouldn't frighten the kiddies too much. biggrin

Good your miners have arrived safely after their worldwide peregrinations. :thumbsup:

Haha Dataman, love your guardian. Read the post earlier but didn't see the photo then. How coincidental, I have a stick guardian too, it's the ex President of Finland, Mauno Koivisto. He's been atop my case since my mate gave him to me in April. So now he watches over the Gekko as well as holds paper shielding the power/HDD LED. I'll take a photo tomorrow, don't want to work out how to do so tonight. Room full of computer parts but am a bit of a mobileaphobe.

Hubs for all! I got the Plugable USB 2 60W one. Decided a recommended one would be more likely to work properly with the sticks. Can't think of anything that needs a powered USB 3 hub anyway. My ASRock motherboard has got 6 USB 3 ports, 2 USB 3.1 ports (A & C) and a front panel thingo that can be connected with 2 more USB 3.1 A&C.

Spent way too much on a Titanium PSU, early adopters tax strikes hard. Will take many years to recoup the difference to the price of a Platinum one in electricity savings. That suits me though, extravagant hardware purchases can be made on the sly, whereas gigantic electricity bills are seen by all so threaten to cause much gnashing and wailing. Should be quiet and heat my room up a little less too, I'm good at exaggerating any potential benefits to justify an Amazon bender.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
Got my ASIC in the mail today and have it up and running it's first work unit.  I followed the post on the Bitcoin FAQ called "How to install an ASIC miner (USB)" (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=303&postid=2458#2458).  Will let you know if it validates etc.

EDIT>    I could not run the command line check with commandline "cgminer --ndevs -n in standalone" as windows did not know what it was. 
QuoteC:\Users\User>cgminer --ndevs -n in standalone 'cgminer' is not recognized as an internal or external command, operable program or batch file.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 08, 2016, 09:37:52 AM
Quote from: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 08:54:12 AM
Got my ASIC in the mail today and have it up and running it's first work unit.  I followed the post on the Bitcoin FAQ called "How to install an ASIC miner (USB)" (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=303&postid=2458#2458).  Will let you know if it validates etc.
Good luck Dingo. I've had no invalids for over 50 hours now. Must have been the tuning or maybe it is the Mastiff standing guard.  :jester:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 11:29:37 AM
I did the first one but forgot to restrict what work I got and it was an bfgminer (Campaign #3) (for 20+GH/s Blade erupter ASICs) v0.04 (miner_asic) (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=13547&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=) and it was Invalid.  

@Dataman I see that your tasks run just over three minutes and getting about 358768 credits per hour and kashi's are even a bit quicker.  I have now run a "cgminer (Campaign #3) (for 1.6+GH/s ASICs) v0.07 (miner_asic)" and it is still running over an hour but shows 100% complete, not looking good.

I have my miner plugged into my computer USB 3 port because I do not have the USB hub yet.  Maybe they will not take as long when I have the hub ???    I am running WCG and Einstein on the same PC but I thought that would be OK ??



EDIT:   My PC rebooted and the task is starting again.  Maybe this time it will be faster ??
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 08, 2016, 12:04:00 PM
Quote from: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 11:29:37 AM
I did the first one but forgot to restrict what work I got and it was an bfgminer (Campaign #3) (for 20+GH/s Blade erupter ASICs) v0.04 (miner_asic) (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=13547&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=) and it was Invalid.  

@Dataman I see that your tasks run just over three minutes and getting about 358768 credits per hour and kashi's are even a bit quicker.  I have now run a "cgminer (Campaign #3) (for 1.6+GH/s ASICs) v0.07 (miner_asic)" and it is still running over an hour but shows 100% complete, not looking good.

I have my miner plugged into my computer USB 3 port because I do not have the USB hub yet.  Maybe they will not take as long when I have the hub ???    I am running WCG and Einstein on the same PC but I thought that would be OK ??



EDIT:   My PC rebooted and the task is starting again.  Maybe this time it will be faster ??

Sorry but that is what happens when they lose contact. The 1.6+ tasks time out after 2 hours and 20+ after 1.5 hours. If you look at the stderrout it will show that it was doing nothing and occasionally a message something like searching for a valid device. The 1.6+ tasks should not take longer than 10 minutes and most of mine are 2-4 minutes. If it is a Gecko you are probably going to have to adjust the voltage and put it in a powered hub. Some times removing it and plugging it back in will start it up again and it will complete a few wu's before losing contact again. If it is a Gecko, is the light flashing or do you just get the green light?
CPU & GPU jobs do not affect it. It only uses 0.1 CPU
Good luck and welcome to "Club Frustration"  biggrin

:panic:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 12:18:17 PM
Quoteorry but that is what happens when they lose contact. The 1.6+ tasks time out after 2 hours and 20+ after 1.5 hours. If you look at the stderrout it will show that it was doing nothing and occasionally a message something like searching for a valid device. The 1.6+ tasks should not take longer than 10 minutes and most of mine are 2-4 minutes. If it is a Gecko you are probably going to have to adjust the voltage and put it in a powered hub. Some times removing it and plugging it back in will start it up again and it will complete a few wu's before losing contact again. If it is a Gecko, is the light flashing or do you just get the green light?
CPU & GPU jobs do not affect it. It only uses 0.1 CPU

The Green light is on constantly not blinking.  The task ran up to about 98% quickly but now is on 99.96% after 41 minutes.  Just looked in the stderr.txt and it is not doing anything.   Will try another USB port and see what happens.  The USB Hub should be here tomorrow I think.  I don't want to plat around with the screw unless I have to so will wait and see if the Hub fixes the problem.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 08, 2016, 12:36:16 PM
Quote from: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 12:18:17 PM
Quoteorry but that is what happens when they lose contact. The 1.6+ tasks time out after 2 hours and 20+ after 1.5 hours. If you look at the stderrout it will show that it was doing nothing and occasionally a message something like searching for a valid device. The 1.6+ tasks should not take longer than 10 minutes and most of mine are 2-4 minutes. If it is a Gecko you are probably going to have to adjust the voltage and put it in a powered hub. Some times removing it and plugging it back in will start it up again and it will complete a few wu's before losing contact again. If it is a Gecko, is the light flashing or do you just get the green light?
CPU & GPU jobs do not affect it. It only uses 0.1 CPU

The Green light is on constantly not blinking.  The task ran up to about 98% quickly but now is on 99.96% after 41 minutes.  Just looked in the stderr.txt and it is not doing anything.   Will try another USB port and see what happens.  The USB Hub should be here tomorrow I think.  I don't want to plat around with the screw unless I have to so will wait and see if the Hub fixes the problem.
Yes, the bright light should be flashing when it is running a WU. On mine, sometimes the light does not start flashing for ~30 seconds when a wu starts. I must admit I did not use a voltmeter on mine. I just turned the screw clockwise the width of a fine hair and put it back in and let go until it ran stable. Of the two that did not work, one only took one adjustment and the other one took 4. All 4 are stable now and two more arrive Saturday.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 12:50:48 PM
OK tried it in two other USB ports with no luck.  I tried it on one that had a USB extension plugged in and away it went.  The light is flashing "Blue" I think, I am coloured Blind"

It is alive  :crazy I have returned two tasks in record time. http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=13547&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid= (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=13547&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=)

:dance2:


EDIT:  It was short lived died after three tasks completed.  OK I am going to turn the screw if I have a screw driver to fit. I assume clockwise is the way to go ??

19:55:37 (8984): wrapper (7.5.26011): starting
19:55:37 (8984): wrapper: running cgminer.exe ( -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 -u bu3.worker1 -p x --failover-only -o stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334 -u 1LdTtbERXRWKrqEts2DBJ1nCAVYqtYsN87 -p x --shares 512 --text-only --no-submit-stale --usb :1)
[2016-06-07 19:55:37] Started cgminer 4.9.2
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] No devices detected!
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] Waiting for USB hotplug devices or press q to quit
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] Probing for an alive pool
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] Pool 1 difficulty changed to 512.0
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 256
[2016-06-07 19:55:44] Network diff set to 196G
[2016-06-07 19:55:37] Started cgminer 4.9.2                    
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] No devices detected!                    
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] Waiting for USB hotplug devices or press q to quit                    
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] Probing for an alive pool                    
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] Pool 1 difficulty changed to 512.0                    
[2016-06-07 19:55:43] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 256                    
[2016-06-07 19:55:44] Network diff set to 196G                    
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
[2016-06-07 19:56:08] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 51
[2016-06-07 19:56:08] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart
[2016-06-07 19:56:08] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart
[2016-06-07 19:56:10] Pool 1 difficulty changed to 512.0
[2016-06-07 19:56:08] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 51                    
[2016-06-07 19:56:08] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart                    
[2016-06-07 19:56:08] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart                    
[2016-06-07 19:56:10] Pool 1 difficulty changed to 512.0                    

Etc

Etc



EDIT Two:  I do not have a screwdriver that small will need to get one tomorrow..
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 08, 2016, 01:54:13 PM
QuoteEDIT:  It was short lived died after three tasks completed.  OK I am going to turn the screw if I have a screw driver to fit. I assume clockwise is the way to go ??
Yes clockwise increases the voltage and anticlockwise decreases it. I never could get a Philips screwdriver to fit. I use a very small flatblade.
EDIT: Make sure you are grounded and not carrying a static charge before you touch it with metal.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 08, 2016, 02:31:37 PM
Good that it's arrived, not so good that it's mucking up. Neither of mine worked at all on my computer's USB 3 port so perhaps continue any further tests on your computer's  USB 2 port.

Had another fiddle with my cantankerous one and got it to work but only for one task then it loses contact again. Removing and replugging works sometimes but only lasts for another task. Other times it needs another tiny adjustment of the Silver Screw of Frustration. Then again and again and again. This is #@%&*! ridiculous.

Ah well, at least it can work sometimes, so all I need do is burn some chicken feathers, smear myself with vegemite and dance around the bedroom 3 times.

Maybe I should try some kriyas instead, I remember closing the nine gates was a powerful one. So much heat to the head like someone had applied 1,000 volt Dencorub to the brain. Probably blow me into orbit now but I'd go out with a bang. Think maybe kasi's dead, no n-n-n-no, he's outside looking in.

But I will not be sad when the sky is perfect blue. Surely some revelation is at hand; Surely the Hub of Power is at hand. Rejoice, from the bowels of Amazon the Hub of Power is winging it's way here on the big silver bird. Then the purple strobe of goodness will shine forth triumphantly.



Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 03:09:23 PM
My PC has all USB 3 ports so no luck there....

QuoteAh well, at least it can work sometimes, so all I need do is burn some chicken feathers, smear myself with vegemite and dance around the bedroom 3 times.
Yes that is how I feel sometimes  :crazy

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 08, 2016, 03:44:39 PM
I'm calling myself the self proclaimed master of patience and adjustment with these Gekos!  :wave:

QuoteYes, the bright light should be flashing when it is running a WU. On mine, sometimes the light does not start flashing for ~30 seconds when a wu starts.
Correct. If the purple light doesn't start flashing after the WU gets to about 10%ish then it may need hotplugging. If it just sits at green then its frozen and again need hotplugging. For example I just got home from work and the last WU has been sitting there at 99% for about an hr, so I hotplugged it and that completed the task.
Mine was running fin on Sunday/Monday but its had a shocking run today! Most of the day wasted while I was at work.

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?userid=6049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

6 invalids after timing out.  :hbang:

Since it was stopped I adjusted the voltage screw and now have it at .69V. Just to give you some idea, about 1/4 turn moved the voltage from .62 to .69 so it was quite a bit.
Even though they say these can operate between .55 - .08, I'm not really game to go much over .7 especially as I have no other cooling.

I'll now see how .069V goes and let you know.

Honestly I reckon I hotpugged mine AT LEAST 100 times since I got it and then it seemed to settle down.... till today.
I too am using a USB 2.0 port. I did have it in a USB 3.0 port but that was behind my pc and a pain in the backside to continually hotplug.

I too have a powered hub coming and hope that it might provide a more stable supply of power which might help moderate this things temperament.  A lot of "might's" and "maybe's" there.

I'll keep you updated :)

:rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 08, 2016, 05:09:48 PM
Mauno Koivisto, President of Finland smiles upon my Gekko.

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 08, 2016, 08:02:02 PM
OK since I was having problems with windows I would try my Raspberry PI but alas after three hours it is in the same state as Windows.   I think it might even be worse as there is a lot of stuff in the stderr file about unable to open folders etc.

I plugged it back into Windows and after a couple of Ejects and plug ins it is now running a task.  I am off to bed as it has just turned 03:00 here in BC Canada.   I will leave windows running Bitcoin but I bet it fails after a couple of tasks.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 08, 2016, 11:25:35 PM
Just look at it as a right of passage into the world of obscenely large credits. :jester:
My two new ones have been stuck in Dallas, TX for two days drinking Lone Star beer and wearing cowboy boots. They are coming by the United States Postal Service (who could break an anvil) so it will be late. This Gov't Agency should have been eliminated decades ago and replaced with private enterprise who has an incentive to please their customers.  :thumbdown:
Maybe you need a meaner looking guardian, Kashi. Yours looks too friendly.  biggrin
We had breakfast on the new deck. I had to cook but she had to wash-up. Beautiful morning here. Life is good.
:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 09, 2016, 12:40:49 AM
Great looking deck, didn't see the photo before.  v:

Haha, "break an anvil", good one. :rofl:

My parcel has current status of "Your shipment has been flagged for review prior to export" . Think that means it's "sitting in our warehouse so as not to get to you too quickly because you're too tight to pay for faster shipping" . Ordinary shipping was expensive enough, AU$50, yes I'll save more than that compared to Aussie prices and articles aren't available here, but still.

I've had that message before and there's been no delay but it's with i-parcel and we don't take too kindly to i-parcel 'round here. DHL out of Frankfurt for motherboard are being ornery too and don't even have tracking now it's left the Fatherland. Never mind, it will get here some time.

Still got to get registered memory. Can't understand why some building E5-2670 duallies are paying extra for 1600 CL11 when 1333 CL9 would perform almost identically. If my ciphering is correct, the 1333 actually has the teensiest faster access time. Will get low voltage stuff anyway to save a little on power.

Think the President could be meaner than he looks when necessary. Strikebreaker on the Finnish docks and other political shenanigans. Finnish political history is a bit different to what we're used to here. Communists vying with Social Democrats and the strong links to the USSR, etc.

Hope you all have better success with your Gekkos soon. When they work they can certainly pump out the the cobblestones so fast it's almost obscene.

Edit: Well looky here, I was told no tracking after Frankfurt and 2 week delay but look what's just appeared, corker:
Wed, 08.06.2016 07:12 a.m./p.m.    Australia    The shipment has arrived in the destination country
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 09, 2016, 10:09:58 AM
@Dataman   Like the deck, it would look good on my lot in BC.  I am too poor to afford a deck jst yet but it is on the list along with a Gazebo and a concrete pad to park the RV on.   Canada post is just the same system as USPS I think.  If you opt for free shipping it usually takes 10 business days from Toronto.  I bought the hub from Amazon.ca and paid for shipping and it was here in two days by courier.  I guess the best thing is  :panic:

These run really hot when they do one after the other.  What is everyone doing for cooling ??   Dataman is that a Arctic Breeze Mobile USB fan I see in the photo ???

I got the HUB today and when I started Bitcoin up with the USB Miner in the Hub the Purple / Blue light flashed almost at once and the task is validated and a new one is running with the light flashing.  My record is three in a row so hopefully the extra power in the Hub fixes the problem....


EDIT:  15 in a row since I plugged it into the powered HUB.   :mwalk:

EDIT:  Now 27 in a row.  The Hub is the reason without a doubt,  well I thinkl so  biggrin  27 X 30,000 = 810,000 in one hour and 10 minutes gotta love that.   I guess I am now a credit whore, is that what they call miners on the forums...... :rofl:

        Its flying (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=13547&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 09, 2016, 12:12:17 PM
Well done, Dingo.  :congrats  Put a fan on it if you can.
Four days without a problem. My two finally left Baja Oklahoma (Texas) and arrived in Sacramento. :bloodshot I expect them tomorrow.
Yes an Artic Breeze. They move a lot of air. I have two fans on the array now and they are only warm to the touch.
You will find the flashing light becomes annoying. With four now my office looks like a dance club at night. I just need to play some Disco music in the background.  :cool: Perhaps some ABBA.  biggrin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AB3wTUbOMEU
With two more it will only get worse.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 09, 2016, 04:32:57 PM
Quote from: Dingo on June 09, 2016, 10:09:58 AM

EDIT:  Now 27 in a row.  The Hub is the reason without a doubt,  well I thinkl so  biggrin  27 X 30,000 = 810,000 in one hour and 10 minutes gotta love that.   I guess I am now a credit whore, is that what they call miners on the forums...... :rofl:

        Its flying (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=13547&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=)

Hmm I don't mean to be a wet blanket but I hope you are right Dingo. I think it might be a bit early to say yet.
Mine was running fine for most of the weekend then bang, 4 invalids which timed out after 2hrs each  :hbang:

Similar today by the looks. Runs fine most of the time and I've just come home to another wasted 2hrs.
http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?userid=6049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

That's why I don't get a steady BOINCstat credit score from day to day :( Only got 7.3Mil the other day instead of 11Mil.

Let's all hope a hub is the best outcome to resolve these issues  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 09, 2016, 07:22:09 PM
I'm going to have to say that adjusting the voltage on the miner doesn't appear to fix the issue of getting stuck on some WU's.
Since increasing the voltage, I still get invalids. About the same as when it was at 0.62V.

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?userid=6049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

The only reason some of these are 1800sec is because I hotplugged it.

Next try will be a hub...... eventually
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 10, 2016, 07:57:51 AM
QuoteI'm going to have to say that adjusting the voltage on the miner doesn't appear to fix the issue of getting stuck on some WU's.
Since increasing the voltage, I still get invalids. About the same as when it was at 0.62V.


I have had 399 consecutive tasks complete without any errors since I put the miner in the powered hub.  I turned the power up very slightly before the hub arrived and it didn't seem to make a difference and tasks failed all the time.

So touch wood the Hub is the answer......   
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 10, 2016, 09:15:25 AM
The two new Geckos arrived and I installed them. They started working immediately but one of them is running wu's in 9-10 min. where the other 5 are running them in 2-4 min. I will turn up the voltage on that one later. Right now I am just happy they are all running! I think I can do about 60 million/day now.  :dance: All slots are filled now on the hub but one is occupied by the receiver for the wireless keyboard/mouse. I think it will have to relocate to the back of the case to make room for miner #7.  :rofl:
:oz:

Our team now has 8 active miners and it shows in the credit scores. Come on Aussie come on.  :crazy
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 10, 2016, 01:59:54 PM
Glad your miners arrived and are working out of the box.  Makes me think I should order another one but will have to see how the $$ go this fortnight. 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Daniel on June 10, 2016, 04:08:49 PM
QuoteOur team now has 8 active miners and it shows in the credit scores. Come on Aussie come on.

Yes, well done to all our bitcoin miners.  :congrats
We're now earning more credit per day than many of the teams ahead of us.
It will be interesting to see how high in the rankings we can get.
:rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 10, 2016, 07:55:44 PM
It's going to get better yet  ::) :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 11, 2016, 02:17:43 AM
"To flash or not to flash, that is the question. Whether it is nobler to dance in the brilliance of light or to remain cloaked in the darkness of obscurity."
I noticed this morning that 3 of the Gecko's flash and three do not.  ??? All are working great with no invalids for almost a week now. Rather odd.
Appears we may gain a team position in 8 days. :cheer1:
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 11, 2016, 08:45:03 AM
That's strange DM  ???
I had 39 invalids yesterday  :thumbdown:

I don't mind the flashy light but then again my pc is on the floor and I can't really see it. For the time being till my hub arrives.
I'm really hoping the hub help run things more stable.

I also don't mind the flashy light as it reminds me of my old clubbing dayz......... but we won't go there  :wiggle:

Edit - We are crunching at 23rd highest daily amount as far as teams go. Should really overtake some slow pokes soon.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 11, 2016, 12:24:01 PM
I ordered three more today,  I can eat next fortnight :yahoo:

I had my best credit day ever (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/detail/1115/bestxdays) today with 13,800,000 from one Gekko. 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 11, 2016, 04:04:24 PM
Quote from: Dingo on June 11, 2016, 12:24:01 PM
I ordered three more today,  I can eat next fortnight :yahoo:

I had my best credit day ever (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/detail/1115/bestxdays) today with 13,800,000 from one Gekko. 

That's an excellent result Dingo!  :congrats
Kashi & I only seem to squeeze around 11Mil out of ours. I wonder if that because Kashi's unit is like mine and does the odd, stupidly long WU or maybe because you ordered that one from Europe was it?? With the different coloured heatsink.

I can see this team is coming out of nowwhere on the global ranks and will rocket into position.
It's quite amusing...... and fun filling sense of achievement......or maybe i need to get out more LOL  :rofl: :bloodshot

2 weeks till I see my hub  :faint:
Hoping that helps things.
:AUS:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 11, 2016, 11:22:11 PM
Quote from: Dingo on June 11, 2016, 12:24:01 PM
I ordered three more today,  I can eat next fortnight :yahoo:

I had my best credit day ever (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/detail/1115/bestxdays) today with 13,800,000 from one Gekko. 
:rofl: Yep, you are addicted now.  :jester: In my first week of crunching BU, I "earned" (to use the term loosely) more credits than I did in 12 YEARS of CPU & GPU crunching. :faint:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 11, 2016, 11:30:33 PM
It is going to get even better. The gecko's are now readily available and getting cheaper. My first one was $76 USD, the next batch was $55 and the last ones $49.99. Can $30 be far behind? Right now I can buy a hub and 7 miners for $386 ... less than a high-end GPU.  :thumbsup:
:oz:

Footnote: I still have one miner that is taking twice as long to complete a wu than the other 5. However I cannot tell which one it is in the hub. The device number in BOINC does not correlate to the order they are listed in Win10 device manager and that does not correlate to the order they are slotted in the hub (reading right to left or left to right). I know it is device 4 but don't know which one that is.  ??? Finding this slacker is going to be a chore.

EDIT: I see the price of a Bitcoin is up to $583.77 USD.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 12, 2016, 04:55:53 AM
Dingo, great to see that the hub got your miner working well. It seems Jugnut's are working well on a hub too and also all but one of Dataman's. Looking forward to receiving my hub.

I paid $39.97 for my Gekkos from HolyBitcoin, the original ones sold on a forum directly by the manufacturer were $25, so there may not be much room left to move on the price. HolyBitcoin offers a discount for bulk purchases and sometimes has a 5% discount code on the bitcointalk forum. It was  " Ethereum " a few weeks ago, don't know if that's still current.

I read that the light not flashing during hashing is a hardware problem with the LED trigger circuit. The diode involved is so small that sometimes the robot doesn't solder it correctly. However I don't understand how they don't notice LED isn't working when testing them.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 13, 2016, 01:11:20 AM
Quote from: kashi on June 12, 2016, 04:55:53 AM
HolyBitcoin offers a discount for bulk purchases and sometimes has a 5% discount code on the bitcointalk forum. It was  " Ethereum " a few weeks ago, don't know if that's still current.

Ethereum does indeed work. :)
So does "Welcomeback15%" if you use Shopmate when buying things from Amazon. That saved me 5% in freight. Better than a slap in the face with a wet fish.

I have found that Holybitcoin has worked out the cheapest. (inc freight)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 13, 2016, 07:23:28 PM
For my first order at Holybitcoin I used " Ethereum " and got the 5% discount,  but for whatever reason the second time around(4 days ago) they would not except it.  Saying that the code had reached it's limit?  I'm not sure if you can only use it once or maybe it's run out permanently?  Either way I could not get it for my last two Gekko's ordered.

Sooo.. my budgets blown to pieces yet again.  Hmm I wonder if the debtors court accept's "but your honour it was for boinc" as a valid excuse? 

Also I got a bit of a break today & have now kicked into high gear.  I bought a second hand U3 a while back off ebay and it wouldn't work no matter what I did,  today I plugged it into an older PC & away it went  :crazy  To get it running I did nothing different than I did with the stick miners.  The only other difference that I can think of is this time around I ditched the power supply that came with the U3 & bought a PCI-E to barrel connector off ebay and plugged it into the PC's power supply instead.  So far using 20GH work units i've received 33million credit for 12 hours work :) 

I'll cross my fingers I don't find any zombie's ;)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 12:01:37 AM
@Jugnut: How long do the 20+ wu take? My U3 came with PCIe connectors but are only 3" long. I will have to remove a GPU to have enough power to try to use them.
EDIT: Also, is the USB for the U3 plugged into a powered hub or just into a USB port on the case?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 14, 2016, 12:14:00 AM
Wow, you're really cooking with gas now JugNut. Antminer is go. :cheer1:

Last night was thinking of getting a few more Gekkos myself and actually used the Chat function on HolyBitcoin site to ask about Discount code. But after having another fiddle with my wonky one with little success, decided to wait until hub arrives to see if it will work reliably then. So probably lucky that Chat didn't work.

Can get it to go for 1 task but then it needs replugging and/or another screw adjustment. When I have both plugged in then sometimes the working one stops as well and requires replugging.

Inspired by your Antminer now working on another computer I tried again on my old computer. No luck with a USB extension cable, couldn't even get to the "initial 2 purple flashes then nothing" stage.

On a whim I tried plugging it into my monitor, which has 2 USB ports connected to my old computer. Whammo, started going straight away and did 3 tasks in a row before needing replugging. Half an hour later it actually did 6 in a row before it froze. Then an hour later 7! No it's not fixed yet but that gives hope that it can be made to work with a hub.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 12:59:13 AM
 :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:
Both U3's are working!!! I started them and tried 2 wu's again before I tried to connect them to PCIe and both wu's completed and validated. 2.4 million each.  v:
:dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:

EDIT: Two more completed and validated. :thumbsup: They are taking 52 minutes to run. Geez, now I am afraid to look at them for fear they will stop working.  :bloodshot
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 14, 2016, 02:25:58 AM
Yeeha, Dataman. Those Antminers can really get down and boogie. :thumbsup:

My ornery Gekko is starting to groove a bit now too. 29 in a row without freezing, somebody stop me! Plugging it into the monitor solution, who woulda thunk it? ???

Strobes a go go, looks like Donna Summer has joined KC & the Sunshine Band. My room has light coloured walls and a huge mirrored robe, the power of those 2 tiny lights is amplified so very much, even with my little paper shields. 

Can't imagine a hub full of Gekkos flashing away, must be like adding the Bee Gees with tight, white, moose knuckle daks. biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 02:57:15 AM
 :rofl: kashi. Another of mine stopped flashing so it is not too bad with two only going.

OMG I am now doing 5 million credits/hr on the ants. I do not know what the gecko's are doing as I have seen run times from 0:38 to 14:xx on them. I am just so glad all 6 of them and the two ants are working I am going to subscribe to the old adage, "If it works, don't fix it".
:greet

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 14, 2016, 03:42:31 AM
SWEET!!! Way to go DM.  My U3 is just plugged straight into the port(no hub).   Yep mine average 52 mins also.

When you think about it there not bad value either.  I got mine for a bargain $70 bucks second hand off ebay but if you look around you can find them new with a power supply for about $150 or so. So for $150 you get 66 million credit a day. It would take 6 gekko's to get 66 million credit costing $300.  When you ramp that idea up you can see the more you spend the cheaper every credit(or bitcoin) becomes. That must be how people are getting the BIG credits.  That said it still doesn't make it cheap,  not by a long shot.

Yea my Gekko's are not 100% stable either. Some of your Gekko's are starting to get errors like this....  http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=136136113 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=136136113)  and this.. http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=136136126 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=136136126)  Not sure what is means but oddly there still crediting OK though

Also we both seem to have the another problem. The error is "MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-4-3' - device in use" many times over & over. Like this one.. http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=136136079 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=136136079)    Almost every one of my work units show almost the exact same error. I only just noticed this error but a quick check shows that kashi's, chooka's & Dingo's work units don't have this error. We have one thing in common with our Gekko's and that's we both are using them with USB 3 hubs.  Just speculation at this point.

Well all is not perfect but one things for sure it's certainly not hurting our credit rate. :crazy

Crunch-on 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 03:59:47 AM
Thanks. Yes I saw those errors but as long as they validate I am going to let sleeping dogs lie.  biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 14, 2016, 04:43:01 AM
JugNut, not sure if this has anything to do with it but do you have "Use CPU" ticked in Bitcoin Utopia preferences? I read somewhere in the forum that it should be ticked when using ASIC miners, even though you don't actually process any CPU tasks. Don't know if that is correct but someone thought it was.

I didn't have it ticked before and after ticking it a few days ago, some of the error messages I was getting stopped. Can't remember exactly what they were though.

Also light seemed to start flashing a bit quicker after start of task although I haven't noticed any difference in overall task duration. Hard to tell for sure though as they vary so much. Anyway worth a try if you don't have it ticked.

I relented and bought a couple of the Arctic Breeze Mobile USB fans off eBay. Found somewhere in UK with a more reasonable price, only about 80c more than Amazon and shipping less than most other eBay sellers as well. Didn't notice the listing when I looked a week ago, maybe I missed it then.

Arctic Breeze Mobile Portable Mobile USB Desk Fan White (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181872289974)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 04:57:57 AM
Introducing DM-Army Ants. They swarm on wu's.  biggrin

(and yes, I do need to dust.  :rofl: )

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 14, 2016, 07:29:03 AM
Quote from: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 04:57:57 AM
Introducing DM-Army Ants. They swarm on wu's.  biggrin

(and yes, I do need to dust.  :rofl: )

I looked at those but they are sold out where I got the other miners at http://bitcoinware.net/ (http://bitcoinware.net/) ?   I will have to look around when I get some more spare $$.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 08:31:41 AM
Introducing DM-Polar Bear. Look out! He's on the prowl.

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 08:42:11 AM
Reintroducing DM-Mastiff. He has a full set of teeth now.

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 14, 2016, 09:48:30 AM
Quote from: kashi on June 14, 2016, 04:43:01 AM
JugNut, not sure if this has anything to do with it but do you have "Use CPU" ticked in Bitcoin Utopia preferences? I read somewhere in the forum that it should be ticked when using ASIC miners, even though you don't actually process any CPU tasks. Don't know if that is correct but someone thought it was.

I didn't have it ticked before and after ticking it a few days ago, some of the error messages I was getting stopped. Can't remember exactly what they were though.

Also light seemed to start flashing a bit quicker after start of task although I haven't noticed any difference in overall task duration. Hard to tell for sure though as they vary so much. Anyway worth a try if you don't have it ticked.

I relented and bought a couple of the Arctic Breeze Mobile USB fans off eBay. Found somewhere in UK with a more reasonable price, only about 80c more than Amazon and shipping less than most other eBay sellers as well. Didn't notice the listing when I looked a week ago, maybe I missed it then.

Arctic Breeze Mobile Portable Mobile USB Desk Fan White (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/181872289974)


Hey kashi,  no I don't have CPU selected.  I remember reading about that quite a while ago and didn't think it applied any more but i'll still give it a shot though.

Yea great minds and all that,  that's where I purchased my Arctic breezes from,   I was a bit worried about them arriving at all,  I kinda expected a message from them saying they wont be  shipping them because of there "Terms and conditions of the sale" further down the page. 
It states.. "Condition 2.  Service availability. Our site is only intended for use by people resident in the United Kingdom (mainland only) and we reserve the right to not accept orders from individual's resident elsewhere."
But its been at least 7 days since i ordered and still nothing so I guess they must be coming.  Perhaps by carrier pigeon or just by the absolute cheapest service they can find?


@ Dataman:  *LOL* You've made my day mate,  I would have never believed there was a room anywhere on earth dustier than mine?  But I stand corrected  :worship


PS: The Boinc Gods didn't approve of my idle boasting about large credits from my U3,  as they quickly humbled me with a blackout that lasted over 3 hours. Then it took me another hour or more to fix all the problems caused by it.  Moral of the story is that the boinc Gods are angry lot and extremely touchy as well.  You have been warned ;)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 10:01:41 AM
Quote
@ Dataman:  *LOL* You've made my day mate,  I would have never believed there was a room anywhere on earth dustier than mine?  But I stand corrected  :worship

That was not an award I was trying to win. :rofl:
The polar bear did not want to come out of hibernation. The first 7 wu's timed out. I unplugged and replugged each one and all started flashing like a bad electrical storm. The 2nd 7 wu's completed and validated.  :yahoo: I will see how it goes from now. 7 of them flashing makes a lot of light. 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 14, 2016, 11:19:08 AM
Dust you say, hmm, suppose my room would be a little dusty too, underneath all the old GPU's, motherboards, records, broken speaker, old monitor, modems, routers, etc., etc. No worries, I cleared a path to my desk and bed so as not to trip over navigating the jungle.

Ah well, at least it's not huge piles plus the whole floor up to 18 inches high with newspapers like my brother. Yes he's one of those. We've had 2 council kerbside cleanups and once there got so many it needed a skip hired which cost $300. Filled it about 2 thirds full too and they're really big. Must be building up pretty high again now because I hear him slipping over at night, lucky he doesn't break some bones.

Are those Antminers noisy? I've read 25dB but I no longer trust reviews where noise is concerned. Don't know where I could get one but could have another look.

Discovered why the monitor USB port works. Turned it off and Gekko light extinguished also. Must be like a 2 port powered hub. Always thought it was just a passthrough from the computer, never considered it may be powered. So I'll have one and a bit Gekkos per day instead of two until hub arrives. Never mind, it hasn't skipped a beat since my last adjustment which is really pleasing after the battles I've had. Gets a bit hotter than my other one I think, needs more juice as screw finally needed to be about 3 o'clock whereas other one has never been adjusted from about 12 o'clock.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 14, 2016, 11:37:24 AM
LOL :rofl: YOU GUYS HAVE GOT BU SOMETHING BAD!!!! :rofl: biggrin

1Trillion in no time boys! :congrats
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 12:15:43 PM
Quote
Are those Antminers noisy? I've read 25dB but I no longer trust reviews where noise is concerned. Don't know where I could get one but could have another look.
Mine are quieter than 1 case fan. Let some  biggrin dust  biggrin build up and I may get some harmonics.
:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 14, 2016, 10:52:49 PM
Quote from: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 12:15:43 PM
Quote
Are those Antminers noisy? I've read 25dB but I no longer trust reviews where noise is concerned. Don't know where I could get one but could have another look.
Mine are quieter than 1 case fan. Let some  biggrin dust  biggrin build up and I may get some harmonics.
:oz:

Harmonic's. :rofl: 
It's kinda like natures own freely supplied sound deadener then? Who'd have thought?   Nice!!
Thanks for the school'en Dataman.  :thumbsup:


@ kashi: I can't hear mine at all over my other PC's, there very quiet.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 14, 2016, 11:07:39 PM
Can it be??? Yes, it is!!! A 170 million credit day.  :shock Two hundred million tomorrow??? It could happen!!!

:boom:

EDIT:169,230,000 at BU and 170,038,613 combined. :thumbsup: My previous highest day was 75,854,765 combined running 60 CPU threads and 12 GPU's. Simply amazing.  :dance:

:oz:

EDIT 2: We gained a Team position to 48th.  :cheer1: We are 35 days away from Texas A&M   v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 14, 2016, 11:33:22 PM
Wow unbelievable!!  Good one Dataman  :thumbsup:


For me the boinc Gods must still be very cranky as my Gekko's have been playing up all day.  I'd be lucky to get a half a days worth of work strung together and even then it's taking constant baby sitting even to get that much done. Thank goodness my U3 sprung to life or it would be slowwwww going indeed.    Hmm I guess I should clarify that by saying it's a bitcoin kinda slow, which of course is still dozens of times faster than normal.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 15, 2016, 03:12:31 AM
Stop, look, listen 'cos you're gonna hear
A brand new story 'bout a great engineer,
He's the greatest of them all we claim
Antminer's his engine, Dataman's his name.

Dataman a steamin' and a rollin',
Dataman you never have to guess
When you hear the tootin' of the whistle
It's DM at the throttle of the Antminer Express!

There'll be Dingo Junior and old JugNut too,
Fireman Chooka and the rest of the crew.
In a thrilling adventure that's a lot of fun
When DM takes the throttle for another run.

Thank you both for replies about Antminer noise.
I may get one later, but currently the only places I found with stock were AliExpress sellers. Bit dubious about buying from there as I read a warning about quality of Antminers bought directly from China.

Anyhow dual motherboard finally arrived, so now I'm searching for registered memory to suit. Many Hong Kong/China sellers of supposedly new PC3L-12800R Samsung sticks with free delivery for a suspiciously good price but again read a warning that some is counterfeit actually made by Heoriady. Plus they don't guarantee receiving same part numbers as shown in photos.

So now looking at used (server pulls) PC3L-10600R Hynix or Nanya as it may be a safer choice. Found some new Hynix PC3L-10600R from a US seller and it's on my Z9PA-D8 approved DIMM list, quite a bit more expensive though due to high postage costs.

Edit: Got the new one from the US wrong, it's Hynix not Nanya.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 15, 2016, 04:09:50 AM
QuoteStop, look, listen 'cos you're gonna hear
A brand new story 'bout a great engineer,
He's the greatest of them all we claim
Antminer's his engine, Dataman's his name.

Dataman a steamin' and a rollin',
Dataman you never have to guess
When you hear the tootin' of the whistle
It's DM at the throttle of the Antminer Express!

There'll be Dingo Junior and old JugNut too,
Fireman Chooka and the rest of the crew.
In a thrilling adventure that's a lot of fun
When DM takes the throttle for another run.

Way cool that.  :congrats
Saved that one permamently
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 15, 2016, 07:59:38 AM
Nice one Kashi! :) I see plenty of that RAM on Ebay....but I'm sure you're all over that.
DM - Wow  :boom: comparitively speaking, it looks like you will be pumping out about 1Bil/ week once it settles in. Unreal!  :worship

Dingo - My miner was the same for the first 1-2 weeks. It really seems to have settled down now. All I've done is increased the V to 0.69V. I'm thinking about decreasing it slightly now just to try and find a happy medium. I don't want to cook it early.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 15, 2016, 11:22:07 PM
Shucks, only 188 million today.  :wink I am having trouble with the new Polar Bear array. When one stops working all 7 stop working. Will get out my magic screwdriver today and give them a crank.

EDIT: Gave them a crank. Meanwhile the Mastiff and the ants are error free. The ants are amazing. They have not missed a beat since I started them.
EDIT2: We are quickly gaining on Texas A&M. In one day we decreased the overtake days from 35 to 16.  :cheer1:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/overtake/59/0/0
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 16, 2016, 10:53:55 AM
Got my three new USB Miners today and loaded the driver one by one and also tested on Bitcoin one by one.  After a lot of messing with the voltage I have them all working individually and about to put all four on at once to see if the lights flash and the credit is blinding.

I am typing this as I go while the miners are going or not going and after a bunch of hotplugging I have two running steady and one not running at all and the other one on and off.  :furious:


EDIT:  OK I got the  :buzz out of it and all four are running at the moment., hope they stay that way....

EDIT:  Checked back and only two working again.  Need to play with the voltage I guess.  I wish I knew what the voltage was when I play with the screw as they are so small I never really know if it moved. :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 16, 2016, 04:42:01 PM
I may be able to offer some insight here quickly.....
I bought one of those USB voltage testers which arrived today. My miner timed out today and wasted about 4hrs doing nothing again so I decided to check the USB voltage. It measured 5.06V. I'm thinking straight away that isn't enough voltage for these miners?
With the miner plugged into the other end of the tester (like a pass through) the voltage dropped to 4.9V.

I'm thinking that it could be a lack of V which is the cause??
My USB hub is on the slow boat so will be here next weekend to check.

Perhaps this helps.

ps ...I'm using a USB port on my PC, not one on the mobo. Same V on mobo though.

@Dingo - I posted a few posts back about roughly how much 1/4 turn of the screw was in voltage difference. (Sorry...got to pick son up from daycare so can't find it for you)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 16, 2016, 10:03:44 PM
Thanks chooka I guess I need to look into getting a multi meter but then I don't even know how to use one.  I think the best thing to do is fiddle till it works as there is only one now out of the four that keeps stopping.  Once I hotplug it it starts again.

Crunch on  :rocks we will make up a position in the world soon.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 16, 2016, 11:48:54 PM
Hurrah!! All the lizards made it for 24 hours. I agree, I think they are shipped with minimum voltage. Of my 14, I have adjusted 9 of them.
On another matter, Texas A&M can hear our hoof beats now. A thundering herd of drunk Gecko's.  biggrin
v:

(http://static.diffen.com/uploadz/c/cb/gecko--1.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 17, 2016, 01:40:03 AM
Eureka! I made some progress in identifying which Gecko is which in the hub. The device location in device manage (e.g. Port_#0003.Hub_#0011) seems to correspond to the position in the hub (reading left to right on my Superbpag). If the position listed in device manager is the same order as they are discovered and numbered in BOINC (e.g. Miner ASIC (device 5)), then I can tell which slacker is which.  :yahoo: Otherwise I can't easily tune them. My run times on the Gecko's are rather dismal from 3 min. to 45+ min. I also have strange error messages that I do not understand. But they complete and validate and I am pleased with that. :thumbsup:
Obviously I need to do more research. However it is a lovely day and I have a lovely woman who wants to go over to the American River and commune with nature. That is so much better than looking at BOINC logs.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 17, 2016, 05:01:42 AM
Have you got 14 of these Geko's now DM?? WOW!  :yahoo:
Your room really must look like a disco lol :)

Enjoy nature & the sunshine mate........ it's what really counts in life.... the beauty of nature.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 17, 2016, 08:42:19 AM
Only 5 of my 14 flash and I put all of them in the array in the server room where they do not annoy anyone.

Spent a beautiful day along the American River. Had lunch here:

http://www.xpressionscatering.com/the-cork-fork-restaurant/

Nothing special but the hot wilted-spinach salad was good and Karen liked the fish tacos. Life is good.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 17, 2016, 11:19:44 AM
I finally got all four of mine working and all the lights flashing.  I did notice that when the light was not flashing and they times out they did not appear on the "Invalid" or "Error" list, they just seemed to disappear.  Now that I have them all flashing I can follow them on BoincManager and when they finish they appear almost immediately on the "Valid" list.

Had a look at the  American River (http://www.theamericanriver.com/) website and it looks like a nice place, and good eats at the restaurant as well.


I also noticed that some do not work for a couple of minutes then start crunching OK.  It looks like it hotplugged itself as I did not do it.

[2016-06-16 18:19:49] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart                    
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
[2016-06-16 18:21:21] Hotplug: Icarus added AU3 0
[2016-06-16 18:21:21] Hotplug: Icarus added AU3 0                    
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
[2016-06-16 18:21:24] Accepted 1765e2a3 Diff 11/8 AU3 0 pool 0
[2016-06-16 18:21:24] Accepted 1dc77bc6 Diff 9/8 AU3 0 pool 0
[2016-06-16 18:21:24] Accepted 1765e2a3 Diff 11/8 AU3 0 pool 0                    
[2016-06-16 18:21:24] Accepted 1dc77bc6 Diff 9/8 AU3 0 pool 0                    
(5s):4.909G (1m):615.8M (5m):127.7M (15m):42.81M (avg):207.5Mh/s          
(5s):9.916G (1m):1.592G (5m):338.3M (15m):113.9M (avg):539.1Mh/s          
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 20, 2016, 04:57:14 AM
Oh dear...... maybe I need a guardian like you guys have.  :thumbdown:

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?userid=6049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Had a shocking run of invalids.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 20, 2016, 06:35:35 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on June 20, 2016, 04:57:14 AM
Oh dear...... maybe I need a guardian like you guys have.  :thumbdown:

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?userid=6049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Had a shocking run of invalids.
Can't access the file. Do you have view computers turned on there? Do you have it in a powered hub yet?
Mine have settled down after the last adjustments. No invalids in 4 days.
Do you have a statue of a Tasmanian Devil?  biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 20, 2016, 09:25:39 AM
I have my four working now after a lot of tuning.  They are in a Powered hub which makes a huge difference.  I am getting 46 - 47 million (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/detail/1115/lastDays) credits a day on bitcoin utopia with the four ASIC's.  I have moved up 255 places in the world rankings so far this month.  Would like to break my best ever at 175 and now on 769.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 20, 2016, 09:59:21 AM
Quote from: Dataman on June 20, 2016, 06:35:35 AM

Can't access the file. Do you have view computers turned on there? Do you have it in a powered hub yet?......
No, computers are not hidden. You can't show tasks from all someone's computers using a userID link unless logged in as that user. You can't even see your own results with a userID link after you log out, it will ask you to log in first.

For general viewing by everyone it needs to be shown as a link to each computer (hostID),  eg:
http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?hostid=9656&offset=0&show_names=0&state=5&appid=

Alternatively you can link to the user themselves and then click on their computers "View" link (if not hidden), eg:
http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/show_user.php?userid=6049

Anyway, that's disappointing that 5 tasks timed out after 2 hours each.

My hub arrived on Friday, couldn't believe it when my good stick started misbehaving on it and losing connection needing replugging often. Most disappointing. However after I adjusted it to the same as the other one which worked well on the TV it has not missed a beat since. Using a case fan to cool them both until USB fan arrives from UK.

With both in hub I tried running 1 task on both sticks using  --usb :2 --icarus-options 115200:2:2 commandline parameters plus <count>1</count> in an app_config.xml file to enable pool splitting but it was much slower overall than running a task on each stick. Tried with just --usb :2 and <count>1</count>; that was better but still slower overall than single task per stick.

Be useful to find out how to insert novak's custom cgminer into Bitcoin Utopia BOINC files so that frequency can be adjusted using --compac-freq parameter.

PSU for duallie arrived with hub and registered RAM has reached Sydney from China. That Amazon is dangerous, just bought a 15" Chromebook (https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00TU7U4PU) for US$229. Don't know if I actually need a Chromebook but my mum can use it to watch movies in bed if she wants. Plus I can muck about putting Linux on it with Crouton. Credit card bill next month will be a doozy, haha.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 20, 2016, 11:25:15 AM
Quote from: Dingo on June 20, 2016, 09:25:39 AM
I have my four working now after a lot of tuning.  They are in a Powered hub which makes a huge difference.  I am getting 46 - 47 million (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/detail/1115/lastDays) credits a day on bitcoin utopia with the four ASIC's.  I have moved up 255 places in the world rankings so far this month.  Would like to break my best ever at 175 and now on 769.
My best was 283 at 2010-03-15. Now at 351. Gaining 10-20/day.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 20, 2016, 11:33:35 AM
QuoteCredit card bill next month will be a doozy, haha.
Not looking forward to mine either.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 20, 2016, 04:32:13 PM
Quote from: Dingo on June 16, 2016, 10:53:55 AM
Got my three new USB Miners today and loaded the driver one by one and also tested on Bitcoin one by one.  After a lot of messing with the voltage I have them all working individually and about to put all four on at once to see if the lights flash and the credit is blinding.

I am typing this as I go while the miners are going or not going and after a bunch of hotplugging I have two running steady and one not running at all and the other one on and off.  :furious:


EDIT:  OK I got the  :buzz out of it and all four are running at the moment., hope they stay that way....

EDIT:  Checked back and only two working again.  Need to play with the voltage I guess.  I wish I knew what the voltage was when I play with the screw as they are so small I never really know if it moved. :rofl:

Do you have to change anything in the info file to get more than 1 working? Or should they just plug in and go after installing the driver using Zadig?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 20, 2016, 05:34:50 PM
Yes you have to change <count> value in cc_config.xml file to match the number of miners you have. Using app_info.xml file or app_config.xml file is not necessary.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 20, 2016, 05:52:06 PM

Can't access the file. Do you have view computers turned on there? Do you have it in a powered hub yet?
Mine have settled down after the last adjustments. No invalids in 4 days.
Do you have a statue of a Tasmanian Devil?  biggrin
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Sorry about that. I didn't know about the link not being accessible. Thank you Kashi for explaining that.
No I don't have a powered USB hub yet. I ordered one on 09/06/16 and it should be here about this Friday. I've bought the same one Jugnuts has? Or was it you Dataman....The Superbpag one.

UPS dropped the ball with my latest delivery! :hbang: I ordered a couple more miners (the last I'll be buying) on 07/06/16. They arrived in Aus on the 12/06/16 and it took from then until today (8 days) to arrive at my door! Should have been 1-2 days from Sydney to Brisbane.
Anyhoo, got my miners but neither of them is working which is why I asked if they should just plug in and go ???
Is there something I need to do to enable more than 1 task to run?

It's not the USB ports because 1 will work in any port. *sigh*

Might have to invest in a Tazzie Devil mate!  biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 20, 2016, 05:53:00 PM
Quote from: kashi on June 20, 2016, 05:34:50 PM
Yes you have to change <count> value in cc_config.xml file to match the number of miners you have. Using app_info.xml file or app_config.xml file is not necessary.

Ohhhhh thank you Kashi! :) You're a LEGEND!! :worship

Edit - So it seems that the USB ports on my Mobo can't run these miners. Must be a voltage issue.
They will only run on the 2 x USB ports which come out of my case.

Oh well, maybe the hub will fix the issue. I'll be glad when the hub arrives actually. My PC is on the floor near my knee and I burnt the crap out of it the other day when I rested it against the miner...OUCH! Should have seen how quick I moved! lol
Not great when you have a adventurous 2yr old around.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 20, 2016, 11:17:10 PM
Quote
Might have to invest in a Tazzie Devil mate!  biggrin
I think you will find the Superbpag will solve the rest of your problems. I have two of them.
Until then, print this:
(https://www.phactual.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/tasmanian5.jpg)
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 21, 2016, 04:48:49 AM
Hahaha Thanks mate!
Yeah..... I can't even get 2 to work properly so we'll see.
:AUS:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 21, 2016, 06:35:27 PM
FINALLY!!!
All working and I found out why I was having issues.

As we all know, you have to fiddle with the voltage screw. Mine arrived and were set at 0.64V. I had one running at 0.7V but it has been kinda hit and miss. Well....I though stuff this, lets go another 1/4 turn of the screw and see what happens.

Start - 0.64V
1/4 turn - 0.70V
Another 1/4 turn - 0.78V

All running good now (Touch wood) :yahoo:

One question though, does anyone know why these don't work in a USB3 slot?
My new Superbpag hub is USB3 but if I pulg it into my USB 3 port on my PC... Nothing. Go to USB 2 and bam, everything lights up.

*Update - Uh Oh.....thought I might have killed one of my miner :( The green light has disappeared and the purple light is stuck on. :/

:rocks

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 22, 2016, 04:47:25 AM
Urgh... :angry:
So this morning, all 3 Geko lights were stuck on purple, I have 150 WU's in progress?? and the times have blown out.

No invalids but something doesn't seem right  ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 22, 2016, 03:41:17 PM
Bugger  :thumbdown:

I'm almost convinced one of my ASIC's is dead. :( The one with the light stuck on.(I changed the cc_config to 1) and tried to run it on its own but I ran out of patience after 10mins. When I plugged another card in (leaving the dodgy one in) I noticed that the new card started blinking and performing tasks.
I thought that was odd and perhaps an indication that dodgy card was not being recognised?

Dodgy card has voltage and its currently at 0.71V

Funny thing is ........I don't see any invalids from timing out, which is what I'd expect to see if the card wasn't working.  ORRR Is it possible that the other 2 ASICS are crunching away while the 3'rd WU starts (because WU begins with the CPU) and once one of the 1st miners that's working finishes its first task, does it then just pick up the 3rd work unit and complete it?

It's warm but not hot to the touch, a clear indication that somethings not right. Unlike the other 2 cards which melt your finger prints off :blush1:

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/results.php?userid=6049&offset=0&show_names=0&state=4&appid=

Oh well.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 23, 2016, 01:16:40 AM
What are the run times on the device in question?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 23, 2016, 07:20:57 AM
At work now sorry DM but I'm now 99% sure its dead :(
I'd have to let it run by itself I guess to see what happens. I had all 3 plugged in over night and woke up this morning and unplugged the faulty one. It seems that with 3 WU running, one of the other sticks picks up the 3rd WU to finish it off. I thought maybe if I unplugged the faulty one, then one WU would just time out but that's not the case.

I've just had a long chat with Scott from Holy Bitcoin. Sadly there's no warranty on these things and he's just the salesman.
He was very helpful and advised that after his existing stock of the Geko's is gone, there won't be any more. Sidehack is apparently moving on to another project and Scott is also moving on from selling the Geko's.

I might touch base with Sidehack again on the BC forum to find out if there's anything I can do to fix this stick otherwise, it's E waste :(
I've tried adjusting the V screw but no change. I truly think its cactus.....especially as there is no green light.

Oh well........the team is still doing well at screaming up the global Bitcoin Utopia ladder. Every little bit helps although I hope they start a new project soon. I'm not thrilled about the one remaining project after #3.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 24, 2016, 08:16:00 PM
EUREKA!!   :yahoo:.
My third one has come back from the DEAD!  :dance:

I'm shutting everything else down for a while to save on electricity for a bit. Will continue with BU though.
Trying to recruit a new member too.  :thumbsup:

:rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 25, 2016, 06:29:08 AM
That's great news. v:

Strange that it got stuck like that. Have you got a fan blowing on them? I ran mine without a fan when they were apart, but now they're both together on a hub I have an old case fan cooling them until USB fan arrives from UK. It's just sitting there and I keep knocking it off the case. That's OK but twice now I've managed to stick a finger in it when picking it up, youch. Trying to remember to be more careful lately.

Don't know what's happened to USB fan delivery, Royal Mail must have decided that Australia is part of the European Common Market, so are now farting in our general direction. Hmm, Pound has sunk, time for record shopping on Amazon.uk? Not many records are cheaper on Amazon.uk than US Amazon or ccmusic, but for those that are, shipping is cheaper for 1 or 2. May check out the reddit vinyl deals thread next week and see what's on special at Amazon.uk.

How's my form haha; Britain is in uproar, ASX drops 50 billion, currency exchanges in meltdown, gold soars and here am I calmly thinking whether or not I need Live Cream Vol. II now that it's down to AU10.70. I really should effervesce with some newer songs, um how about King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard, don't know anything about their music but they're Aussie and I do like that name.   
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 25, 2016, 05:03:52 PM
We are screaming along.
Nearly 300Mil/day  :shock

Still....we can do better. We're a long way away from catching Gay USA! Those guys can bang out some numbers.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 25, 2016, 10:16:12 PM
@ Chooka:  I'm glad you got thing sorted mate.  So what wizardry did you do to get the dodgy one running again?  I 've had the same thing happen on mine but usually after a re-plug or two all is well again, well so far anyway.

Mine are still flakey but at least now they are behaving a little better and only require hot-plugging 2 or 3 times a day now that my internet is a tad more stable. Before that it was close to once per hour and sometimes much,  much more.  **as i'm posting looks down to finds another has crapped itself yet again**  I got another two delivered on Friday but I just threw them in a draw.  I have poor health and a temperament to match and am in no mood for the extra frustration these will most probably cause.  Besides in the long run a few extra millions here or there wont make that much difference.  I'll get around to trying them sooner or later.   

The only other thing I can think of is that my network is just to patchy for them.**I'm with Telstra :( **  Over the past week i've had the internet drop out up to 10 times a day & that's only what i've noticed and since the ASIC's will not process without internet access they stop, then after internet access is restored they just wont start again,  well at least not without being hot-plugged again.  Hopefully if Telstra ever fix's their broken network things may come right or maybe there just stuffed either way they are turning out to be a right royal pain.

Mmm on second thought the patchy internet is unlikely to be the whole problem as the U3 & the Bi-Fury have not been affected, sure they stopped while the internet was down but then they start straight back up again after it is restored,  the only constant is the Gekko's.   


@ kashi:  What HUB did you end up buying?  Do you think it helped any?
Also my Arctic fans were delivered late last week so i'm thinking yours shouldn't be to far behind.

King Gizzard & The Lizard Wizard?  *LOL*  I'll give em 10 points for originality  biggrin


Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 25, 2016, 11:10:11 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on June 25, 2016, 05:03:52 PM
We are screaming along.
Nearly 300Mil/day  :shock

Still....we can do better. We're a long way away from catching Gay USA! Those guys can bang out some numbers.
We are 10 days from catching BOINC@SK (46) and 12 from catching BOINCstats (45). We will never catch GayUSA unless we get a lot more miners.  :jester:
The longer my Gecko's run the worse they get. They started averaging ~5 min/wu and now up to ~11+ min. I was doing 188 million/day and now about 124 million/day. Not sure why. The U3's are rock solid but are not being made any more. Every 52 minutes they bang out a wu. The USB stick miners seem to be going they way of the buggy whip; not being made anymore and hard to find.
Damn HOT here. 38.3 C today and 40.4 for most of next week.  :thumbdown:
:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 26, 2016, 11:08:32 AM
My hub is a Plugable USB 2.0 7 Port 60W.

Definitely made a difference, even after I found a voltage level that worked with my "dodgy" one when plugged into the monitor USB connected to old computer, if I then plugged it into the new computer with the other "good" one, it caused the good one to lose connection frequently and the ensuing hotplug dance.

In other words couldn't run 2 at the same time on the 1 computer. Hub has no troubles with 2, although surprisingly had to increase voltage on the good one by quarter turn before it worked stably on the hub.

I've had a few internet interruptions too. Thankfully compared to my previous horrendous ADSL, the internet itself never drops out now that I have fibre, but computers are connected to the NTD and router by wireless which sometimes drops out and is hard to restore. Both Gekkos start back up immediately as soon as link is restored, even after 10 minutes or longer spent idling.

Been doing the longer 20+GH/s tasks for a few days now as I found it gives a bit more total throughput, more efficient because of 80 times less stopping and starting I suppose. Take about 4 hours and runtime is much more consistent than 1.6+GH/s tasks.

Yeh hope my USB fans arrive soon like yours did. Still waiting on a Chromebook I bought to arrive too, then I'll get stuck into building my duallie.

Send me some warmth please Dataman and I'll swap you for some coolth. Was -0.3 °C overnight here. :shock
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 26, 2016, 05:09:37 PM
Hi kashi, yea thanks mate.  The Brit's may have royally screwed themselves over?  Or at least it would seem that way.  It's like a really bad reality show with a weird implausible plot that would never happen in real life,  but it really did happen :(
After saying that realistically there is always a dozen or more sides to every story and i'd be a fool to think I could see even a fraction of them.  So I wish the Brits nothing but the best as all of us try to deal with a rapidly shrinking globe & all the fears and uncertainties that come with it.  Interesting times are ahead that's for sure.

Anyway back on track,  I had read about using multiple stick miners to do the 20GH work units & was looking forward to trying it out, but later read that it didn't scale that well so I then promptly forgot about it.  But thinking about it now even if it works out to be a few point less that's still a sacrifice i'd gladly make to keep the little buggers running all day.  As it is now even with baby sitting i'm loosing many millions a day in lost production so i've got nothing to lose. Good thinking buddy and + 1 for your big brain.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 26, 2016, 07:07:00 PM
I think you have misunderstood me. Yes I did try using 2 sticks combined doing 1 20+GH/s task but found it too slow.

What I was talking about was doing 20+GH/s tasks on each stick. In other words, choosing only 20+GH/s tasks in project preferences. Originally these 20+GH/s tasks had a 5,400 seconds time limit but because of Antminer U3s going zombie this limit was removed.

Not only does it yield a bit more total credit but it means that stopping and starting tasks is reduced 80 fold compared to the 1.6+GH/s tasks (4 hours runtime vs  about 3 minutes). This greatly reduces the potential for Gekko sticks to lose contact with the computer.

Hope you feel better soon, cold weather can be uncomfortable enough at any time but worse if you're crook.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 26, 2016, 08:51:14 PM
Thanks kash, ii'll give that a crack tonight.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 26, 2016, 10:51:09 PM
I will try it too. My Gecko's are doing less each day. I am down 60 million/day over what they started at.  :thumbdown:

EDIT: I put all 14 on the 20+ GH wu's. First thing I noticed was all 14 of the little basturds started flashing again.   :shock These are the strangest devices I have ever encountered. They stop working for no apparent reason. They start working for no apparent reason. They run one wu in 5 minutes and the next one in 45 minutes. They flash; they don't flash. They die and then do a Lazarus and come back from the dead.  :panic:

EDIT2: Multi-colored flashing Disco here again but they are "Stayin' Alive".  biggrin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 27, 2016, 02:14:46 AM
Quote from: Dataman on June 26, 2016, 10:51:09 PM
I will try it too. My Gecko's are doing less each day. I am down 60 million/day over what they started at.  :thumbdown:

EDIT: I put all 14 on the 20+ GH wu's. First thing I noticed was all 14 of the little basturds started flashing again.   :shock These are the strangest devices I have ever encountered. They stop working for no apparent reason. They start working for no apparent reason. They run one wu in 5 minutes and the next one in 45 minutes. They flash; they don't flash. They die and then do a Lazarus and come back from the dead.  :panic:

EDIT2: Multi-colored flashing Disco here again but they are "Stayin' Alive".  biggrin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY

Your not wrong about that Dataman  :rofl: 
Also if scientists ever needed proof that tight jeans are extremely unhealthy for guys um dangly parts then they needn't look any further than that video you linked too.  Ahh it stirred up some good memories though, I mean you ain't seen nothing until you've seen ol' JugNut on the disco dance floor with his flared jeans putting his moves together *LOL*


Also on a slightly less disurburbung note, It looks like not all BU campaigns are created equally.  I just tried campain #7 with with 20GH work units and the first two I tried ended up being invalid.  http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=137771735 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=137771735)

The reason is that campaign #7 20GH work units still have a 5400 second(1.5hr) time limit on them and the Gekko's can't finish them in that time frame. So they time out and end up invalid.. Why they have a different time limit on them than campain #3 is anyones guess?

EDIT: The reason the time limit is shorter is because they run for only half as long as the #3 20GH work units,  and also give half the credit as well.  I only just noticed this when I finished my first lot of #7 20GH work units on the U3.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 27, 2016, 03:47:05 AM
Quote from: JugNut on June 27, 2016, 02:14:46 AM
Quote from: Dataman on June 26, 2016, 10:51:09 PM
I will try it too. My Gecko's are doing less each day. I am down 60 million/day over what they started at.  :thumbdown:

EDIT: I put all 14 on the 20+ GH wu's. First thing I noticed was all 14 of the little basturds started flashing again.   :shock These are the strangest devices I have ever encountered. They stop working for no apparent reason. They start working for no apparent reason. They run one wu in 5 minutes and the next one in 45 minutes. They flash; they don't flash. They die and then do a Lazarus and come back from the dead.  :panic:

EDIT2: Multi-colored flashing Disco here again but they are "Stayin' Alive".  biggrin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I_izvAbhExY

Your not wrong about that Dataman  :rofl:  And if scientists ever needed proof that tight jeans are extremely unhealthy for guys um dangly parts then they needn't look any further than that video you linked too.  Ahh it stirred up some good memories though, I mean you ain't seen nothing until you've seen ol' JugNut on the disco dance floor with his flared jeans putting his moves together *LOL*


Also on a slightly less disurburbung note, It looks like not all BU campaigns are created equally.  I just tried campain #7 with with 20GH work units and the first two I tried ended up being invalid.  http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=137771735 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=137771735)

The reason is that campaign #7 20GH work units still have a 5400 second(1.5hr) time limit on them and the Gekko's can't finish them in that time frame. So they time out and end up invalid.. Why they have a different time limit on them than campain #3 is anyones guess?

Thanks JN for the campaign 7 info ... that is good to know. I sometime run some wu's for #7 and will have to remember to change the profile before doing so.
I must shamefully admit there was a time when I had a pair of white bell-bottom pants with white shoes and also a powder blue leisure suit.  :blush1: I look at those pictures of me and want to stick my head in the oven.  :jester:
You should see the server room. That piece of Norwegian Crystal with the Polar Bear etched on it refracts light all over the room now that 7 miners are flashing. I tried to take some pictures but the shutter speed is way too fast to capture the effect. I told Karen I was going to take down the ceiling fan and replace it with a disco ball ( you can actually buy one on Amazon https://www.amazon.com/ADJ-Products-M-800-Mirror-Ball/dp/B00LLYOO88/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1466958991&sr=8-2&keywords=mirrored+disco+ball ). She did NOT think that was a good idea! She did bring me a wine cooler and we are dancing to some 70's music. I am afraid my "moves" have moved on to some other place. When I get going my bones sound like a dog eating chicken bones.  :rofl: We are going to relax in the air conditioning and endure another very hot day.

@Kashi: One again mate your superior Vulcan intelligence has saved the day. So far on the Campaign  #3 20+ GH, the run times are almost exactly 4 hour for each one. I do think the credits will be much more but will have to wait to confirm it after a day or two. At least they are stable times now. I did not know they had dropped the 1.5 limit on #3. Thanks for that.  :worship
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 27, 2016, 08:10:24 AM
Good to know that campaign #7 still has the limit, thanks JugNut. When I did a little #7 before, I was still running 1.6+GH/s tasks. I would have run afoul of time limit too when I next did some #7.

Task you linked looked like it was working well up until the timeout though, so campaign #3 20+GH/s tasks should hopefully work OK on your Gekkos like it does on mine.

Campaign #10 for SRBase should be starting up again soon. #10 apps have been prepared by rebirther but need setup by Henri. Post says "rbox apps have no timelimit", so I think that rbox apps are the 20+GH/s tasks seeing as it says rbox in those tasks names.

Relevant post is here (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=784&postid=11302).

Vulcan you say, hmm, wearing Spock ears may give the illusion of intelligence but surely looking saucy with a Twitchy Kitty Electric Tail would be more fun:

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 27, 2016, 09:53:18 AM
Oh my! Looks like something one would wear on the next visit to Wal-Mart.   :rofl:
Due to frequent applications of wine coolers, our afternoon turned into a nap.  :drink:
v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 27, 2016, 12:19:52 PM
Quote from: JugNut on June 25, 2016, 10:16:12 PM
@ Chooka:  I'm glad you got thing sorted mate.  So what wizardry did you do to get the dodgy one running again?  I 've had the same thing happen on mine but usually after a re-plug or two all is well again, well so far anyway.

Hi mate. Nope..... It was stuck on multiple USB ports for what....2 days then BAM started working when I changed ports back into the hub.
There is only ONE thing that I changed come to think of it...............I have suspended all my other projects to save money on the electricity bill. Maybe that is what fixed it?? Coincidences ???

Mine need the odd hotplug but generally keep going. Bloody hot though. Now all running at .074V.
I might try to slowly adjust the voltage down and see if I start getting more faults.

:rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 27, 2016, 02:04:22 PM
They really just defy logic sometimes.  I have thought the same thing as you and on many occasions, i'd think I finally had it worked out,  but nope just when you think you've got it sorted then bang!! The funk returns with vengeance and I have to start hot-plugging like  madman all over again. 
The little buggers seem to have a mind of there own.  I sometimes wonder if there not leftovers from a magic/joke shop as they've had me at my wits ends on many occasions. *LOL* I was starting to think that I may have been on candid camera and that somewhere, someone was getting a great laugh at my expense.

But love em or hate em there capable of outputting some nice numbers when you can get them working for a time.  So for me at least the hunt for a fix(if there is one) continue's, but doing the 20GH units has been a big help so far.


@ Dataman:  Thanks for the mental picture of you in your powdered blue leisure suit, will keep me smiling for quite some time. Just awesome! 

Mm although kashi in cat suite with an electric cat tail would still win first prize I think :)  *LOL* We really have entered the twilight zone here haven't we?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 27, 2016, 02:13:41 PM
LOL..... would you look at that!

Obviously I didn't touch wood during my last post. The one that was stuck... is stuck again!  :furious:
No amount of hot plugging fixes it. I'll just have to wait for that ASIC fairy to fly by again after they have visiting your households!  :hbang:

(http://i63.tinypic.com/15ilj8.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 27, 2016, 03:17:50 PM
Now your starting to think like a hard core boinc enthusiast,  fairies & gremlins are real and crunching totems are needed to keep your rigs in working order, and don't let anyone tell you differently. :crazy

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 27, 2016, 03:26:26 PM
That's bad news about your Gekko stopping again.  :pcwhack:

But great ASIC fairy. v:

Just had a thought that some of Dataman's sticks that weren't flashing before may not have been working. With a hub full of sticks the working ones would take up the slack and all tasks would be completed. The only clue that some sticks weren't working would be runtimes that varied by a great deal.

You can get Twitchy Kitty Cat Ears (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/iumg/) to go with your Twitchy Kitty Electronic Tail (http://www.thinkgeek.com/product/iniv/).
Hmm, these gifs I'm posting to the forum don't move unless clicked, suppose that's normal for forums.

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 27, 2016, 11:05:25 PM
Good news bad news for me with the 20+ GH wu's.
Good news: Credits jumped back up from ~123 million to ~199 million. :thumbsup:
Bad news: Run times still suck. Anywhere from 4 hours to 11 hours.  :thumbdown: No invalids though.
Since the credits are up I will keep them on the 20+'s.

Ugly day today ... 40.0C and the US stock market is set to tank at the opening bell.  :furious:

EDIT: It turned out to be my best day ever for BOINC. I am just frustrated by the large disparity in run times. Lost about $15K today in the market. The Brits are at the top of my $#!+ list. I need a crying smiley.  :furious:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 28, 2016, 10:06:12 AM
Well the improvement is better than a poke in the eye with a burnt stick but something's still awry there. ???

Such high variability in runtime sounds like some sticks are losing contact and stopping. Are they all still flashing?

My 2 have average runtime of about 4 hours. Means they yield about 14.4 million per day each. From that you could work out a target yield for each of your computers. For example, if one of your computers has 6 sticks then it should yield about 86.4 million per day. The reason I'm suggesting checking this is that I noticed that occasionally one of my sticks misreported the runtime when it was connected to my old computer. It wasn't just out by a little either it was out by heaps. Was doing the 1.6+ GH/s tasks then and some of them took the usual 3-4 minutes to run but reported that they had run for many hours.

Just something to check first to make sure you aren't chasing phantoms. If it's not that, you'd need to investigate which sticks are acting ornery. Suppose the most thorough way of doing that would be extended tests of each stick individually. Doing it in batches might reveal any trouble quicker but would then need individual testing of sticks in the misbehaving batch.

A bit fiddly and time consuming but if Antminer is still crunching away than the immediate daily loss wouldn't show as much and would quickly be made up later if/when you can get every stick performing properly without any of them losing contact and idling all day.

On the other hand, wine coolers and dancing is much more fun. v:

Yes I was looking for the crying smiley the other day, I thought there used to be one. Losing on the market eh, haven't lost your shirt hopefully. Sometimes when I hear of investment losses it reminds me of old cartoons where someone ends up dressed in a barrel because they've lost their shirt.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 28, 2016, 11:46:16 AM
haha No, kashi, my "shirt" is powers of ten larger than that.  biggrin But all of this could have been avoided if there was a modicum of intelligence in this world.
We had a very short power outage here today that cost me about 35 hours of crunching as the BU wu's do not checkpoint restart. Bad day all around.
Another 40+C day tomorrow. I think we all have cabin fever ... even the dogs are grumpy.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Mike Mitchell on June 28, 2016, 02:22:47 PM
Quote from: Dataman on June 28, 2016, 11:46:16 AM
... even the dogs are grumpy.

That made me chortle.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 28, 2016, 07:48:29 PM
Well thanks in no small part to the stability 20GH work units have brought,  I finally plugged in the last two Gekko's.  So after doing the hot plug shuffle for a bit, everything now seems to be running surprisingly quite smoothly.  Yeaa me!!!

Mmm doing the hot plug shuffle?  For those unfamiliar with the concept it looks something like this....  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKcsPOLXZz4 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RKcsPOLXZz4) but instead replace the flashy dance steps with hair pulling & teeth nashing but othwise very similar.  If nothing else I now have a much better idea of what Dataman's room must look like.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 29, 2016, 12:04:27 AM
Quote from: Mike Mitchell on June 28, 2016, 02:22:47 PM
Quote from: Dataman on June 28, 2016, 11:46:16 AM
... even the dogs are grumpy.

That made me chortle.
It is true. Yesterday the Mastiff snapped at the Boxer because he blocked the air flow from the air conditioner vent. Hope Karen does not do that to me.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 30, 2016, 04:14:12 PM
Just another bit of info I've discovered about these Geko's, you can't over crank the voltage.

Basically if you move that little flat bit on the voltage screw to a certain position, the voltage is set at its minimum of 0.55V. As you turn the screw clockwise the voltage increases but once you almost get 360 degrees around, the voltage tops out at about 0.81V then goes back to 0.55V.
Great idea really. I guess it prevents small fires from starting with people over cranking their voltage and burning their house down.  biggrin

On another note, my stuck one is still stuck. I'm not sure its going to do a Lazarus this time.
At least I feel vindicated that I didn't fry it by playing with the voltage....its just dodgy.

:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 30, 2016, 10:46:01 PM
All the stars (and Gecko's) must be in alignment. I have a 228 million credit day going at BU and it is still about three hours to the daily update.  ???

EDIT: 228,678,408 ... Not a bad days' work.  biggrin
On a side note, Henri has been strangely absent and no new campaigns have been started. #3 is approaching 90% complete. If nothing new when MW completes, I will shut down. I am not going to run #7 just to fund Henri's lifestyle.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 01, 2016, 01:20:50 PM
I agree Dataman.
I'm not keen on campaign #7 either.

I'm spewing my 3rd one isn't coming back to life  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on July 01, 2016, 03:02:38 PM
Yes I agree, I did some early in the piece but no more, hopefully SRBase (Campaign #10) will start up soon.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on July 01, 2016, 03:44:30 PM
Agreed!! We entered into this to help fund struggling boinc projects,  not to make anybody rich.  no matter how many credits they throw our way..    I can handle giving a little bit back now & again to help fund BU ongoing expenses but only a bit.  If there's no more boinc projects or any other worthy science projects that need our help we should do the right thing & pull out until there is.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 01, 2016, 10:40:22 PM
#10 is up and running but I do not understand why there are not many more projects. If I advertised free money, there would be a line 10 miles long in front of my house. Henri seems to be an arrogant SOB.  biggrin
262 million yesterday.  :dance: They all seems to be working now but I do not know why. Nothing changed.  ???
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 03, 2016, 09:27:57 AM
I looked into Gridcoin today as an alternative to BU for funding DC projects. It looks promising but I quickly got lost reading the material. Need someone smarter than me to be the tip of the spear.  biggrin  I doubt if BU is going to be feasible long term (could be wrong though). Henri does not appear to spend much effort on it but will not give any admin authority to underlings. I do not mind contributing to #3 & #10 but some of the completed projects (like Mars colonization books) do not interest me in the slightest. I need to figure out how to set up a Bitcoin wallet and actually do mining but first have to define what all the terms mean. I'm lost. Any thoughts on Gridcoin?
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on July 03, 2016, 10:00:12 AM
Unless it's changed in recent times, it was a condition that you must join team gridcoin. :( 

That's why in the last few years they've grown from nothing to #3 team in the world.  http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 03, 2016, 10:25:09 AM
Quote from: JugNut on July 03, 2016, 10:00:12 AM
Unless it's changed in recent times, it was a condition that you must join team gridcoin. :( 

That's why in the last few years they've grown from nothing to #3 team in the world.  http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45)
Totally missed that. That's a showstopper!!  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 05, 2016, 07:08:20 PM
Ooh not sure how much I will be able to contribute now...... my wife just lost her $&!% at me after she burnt her finger on one of these ASIC heat sinks  :furious: :thumbdown:
I just got told I'm getting yet another pay freeze from my greedy US employer and combined with electricity prices, we're starting to struggle.

Maybe once she calms down I might be able to find a solution (disabling all the lights on my pc might be a good start) and getting a USB extension to move this hub up and out of reach for our 3yr old.

Oh boy.......women  ::)
Really not happy.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on July 05, 2016, 10:31:16 PM
Yeh they sure can burn, if you're running them without a fan. :boom:
I got some of those Arctic Breeze USB fans but they're unfortunately too loud to use. Possibly not as loud overall as other computer fans but an annoying penetrating whining tone. So still using my case fan on 4 in hub.

Didn't think Gekkos used much power though. Although don't know how much they actually use. I got 3 more and if I plug all 5 into the hub the last 2 lose connection. Hub has 60W power supply, does that mean each stick is pulling over 12W, that's why it can't cope with 5 sticks?  Electrical calculations are beyond my ken. Have plugged 5th Gekko into monitor connected to old computer for now, any more fiddling with those little silver screws will drive me totally bonkers, haha.

Grr, fancy hub from Amazon as recommended, plus recommended fan from UK and neither of them perform properly.

Hope you can manage to work out a way to run yours without causing too much domestic strife. They're certainly frustrating to get going without problems but pump out the credits at a ridiculous rate when they do work.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 05, 2016, 11:47:00 PM
Better to keep peace in the family than crunch, Chooka.
Very surprised to hear your fans are noisy, Kashi. Mine make almost no noise at all. As to power, I have noticed no increase with the ASIC's. However it is hard to tell this time of the year as we have the air conditioner running most of the day and it uses a lot of power.
It may be a moot point soon as I am increasingly unhappy with Henri's lack of attention to this "project".  :thumbdown:
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 06, 2016, 04:52:56 AM
Morning gentlemen.
Like you Kashi, I have 5 Gecko's but my 5th one is dead...so make that 4  :thumbsup:

Even though these draw a small amount of power, my wife just see's my pc on 24/7 which is the real issue.  :thumbdown:
I'm trying to compromise with her but I think I'll shut down during the day and shut down my other projects for a while till the next power bill comes in.
I'm disappointed but like you said Dataman........better to keep the peace on the home front.  :worship
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 06, 2016, 12:23:28 PM
Phew.... I was bidding on a Antminer U3 on Ebay but got outbid.
After the blow up with the wife last night, that's a godsend. :crazy

So...which one of you outbid me??  biggrin
It went for $92.00 +$11.00 shipping.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on July 06, 2016, 12:50:08 PM
Aha I see, yes running the PC uses a bit. You could always run them off a Raspberry Pi I suppose but it may be frustrating getting it to work unless you enjoy a challenge.

We've just got our new power contract here and tariff has risen 10% from July 1. Bad timing as air con has been running overtime in the last week with the cold weather. I'm using impending outrageously high winter power bill as an excuse to delay building my new PC. The real reason is I need to get info off an old computer so I can use that case. It's an old instal of Win XP Pro and hasn't been fired up for ages so I'm putting off attempting to fiddle with it.

Yes Dataman the noise of the USB fans surprised me. If I could arrange it so it plugged into a USB port oriented horizontally it would probably be OK but plugged into hub with vertical oriented USB ports it is slightly loose fitting and makes more noise. If I support its weight with my finger it is quieter. So I may be able to fix it up somehow but that day had limited patience so just put it aside. BTW, how easy is it to stick your finger in those USB fans when adjusting angle of gooseneck? Probably why I gave up after ouching my fingers for the umpteenth time, haha.

When justifying buying my Skylake box told myself I would be able to shut down one computer to work on and still be crunching on the other. Strangely that hasn't really worked out, after I cleaned the old one and got it crunching again still don't like to shut either box down and lose crunching time. Doesn't really relate only to credit either, can be crunching a low credit project like WCG and still don't like to be "missing out" anything.

Hmm Antminer, wouldn't mind one of those, AliExpress has them but bit dubious about quality from there.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 06, 2016, 03:13:16 PM
Yeah that Antminer on Ebay sold for a total of $107.00.... too much in my opinion.

I too am looking to upgrade my PC. This one does fine but I'd like more cores/threads. I'm just using an i5 2600K
Can't justify that cost either at the moment. The new Broadwell chips are out but I can wait for the extreme prices to come down a bit. I'd have to buy new mobo, RAM and CPU so Id be looking at $1500 - $2000. Imagine what my wife would say about that!! :)

I'll just have to accept that I can only do so much for the team and find that fine balance between happy wife = happy life and me being happy also.

I think it would be my video card which gobbles the most power. I should get a smart meter installed but that's a double edged sword  biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 06, 2016, 11:51:03 PM
Quote
Yes Dataman the noise of the USB fans surprised me. If I could arrange it so it plugged into a USB port oriented horizontally it would probably be OK but plugged into hub with vertical oriented USB ports it is slightly loose fitting and makes more noise. If I support its weight with my finger it is quieter. So I may be able to fix it up somehow but that day had limited patience so just put it aside. BTW, how easy is it to stick your finger in those USB fans when adjusting angle of gooseneck? Probably why I gave up after ouching my fingers for the umpteenth time, haha.
My Mastiff tried to sniff the fan. You should have heard her yelp! Now she avoids the server because it "bites".  biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Mike Mitchell on July 07, 2016, 11:11:50 AM
Quote from: Dataman on July 06, 2016, 11:51:03 PM
My Mastiff tried to sniff the fan. You should have heard her yelp! Now she avoids the server because it "bites".  biggrin

I'm torn between laughter and empathy.  :thumbsup: :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 09, 2016, 09:51:59 AM
Rumor has it I will have two more Antminer U3's delivered on Monday. I got fooled on these as I ordered them from a company in the UK. Turns out the company is a front for China and they have been taking a slow boat ride for over three weeks now. I am sure they are counterfeits but for $65 USD with free shipping for both of them I will not have lost much. If I had it to do over I would have got U3's instead of the Gecko's. They are almost silent, produce very little heat and both of them together do 5 million credits/hour continually without fail. The Gecko's are doing better but still require the occasional hot plug to keep them working.
Nice weather here. I just had 10 cubic yards of shredded redwood bark mulch delivered. Any of you blokes want to grab a shovel and help me spread it?  biggrin
:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on July 09, 2016, 05:21:26 PM
Yeah sure, thrown a bbq on with some bevvies and will be there as soon as lol

Could be bit of a long trek though from this side of the world lol

Regards
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 10, 2016, 12:00:24 AM
FYI
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-markets-bitcoin-mining-idUSKCN0ZO2CW
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on July 10, 2016, 03:03:38 AM
Interesting article in that if people have thousands whet chance do we have of mining with a few ?  I have looked online and found a few how to's to start mining but they all included sending money so not for me.  If anyone finds out how to start let the forum know.  :rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on July 11, 2016, 04:07:25 AM
If you detail the actual financials of Gekko sticks you will break the spell. These sticks pay diddly squat, we knew that didn't we? And now they pay half of diddly squat.

The only small chance to make money with them would be to "lottery" mine.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 11, 2016, 06:20:23 AM
Yes, I figured with all of mine I would get $2 for every $10 in electricity and that is optimistic.
I got lost trying to set up a bitcoin wallet and how to define a "worker" in the mining software. Not worth the effort.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 11, 2016, 06:18:35 PM
Yeah I've no interest in Bitcoin mining and as you pointed out, it won't be worth it.
You'd need to be buying the T/H type units and really....who wants to pay that sort of money. You're talking $$$. No thanks.

I read that some of the die hards like Mikey are buying the Butterfly Monarch miners....again... this is a hobby. I'd never spend that sort of money.
Well.....maybe if I won lotto.

I agree with the U3 comment Dataman but they are rare as hens teeth really. We might find more people giving up with the halving and flogging them off cheaply...but who knows. The U3's are a great compromise before moving towards a PSU to power them.
Can't imagine how many billions you will be churning out soon mate :shock
Move over David Steel! lol
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 12, 2016, 12:40:34 AM
Yes, the U3's are rare now except on eBay and often lack the PSU and/or cables. I am supposed to get two new ones today from China but have my doubts. The DHL tracking # is invalid.
Found this to be very interesting as to active users:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/project/detail/user
There has been a big fall off probably due to stopping CPU/GPU wu's. Henri has only posted one terse message in the last 30 days and shows no interest in getting new campaigns. Bitcoin price will be halved soon. Does not look good. My strategy (if you can call it that) is to get as many credits for the team while good campaigns exist but long term mine will probably end up in the junk drawer. They will be in good company with old CPU's, old GPU's and obsolete MoBo's, PSU's and cables.  :rofl:

P.S. First time I noticed BOINCstats graphs are nicer looking.  biggrin
:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on July 12, 2016, 01:42:17 AM
Graph shows fall off is only 10-11% over last 2 months. Looks much more doesn't it? The reason: Misleading graph is misleading (very truncated y axis). Downward trend is real enough though so it doesn't really matter. Will probably fall much more when CPU and GPU apps are no longer available. Server status shows 100-200 still crunching CudaMiner and CPUMiner apps in last 24 hours.

Don't think they use much power so I'll keep mine going for a while. It's a bit like watching professional sport, even though the game is likely rigged, we can just suspend disbelief and enjoy the spectacle. I rarely drink, don't smoke or gamble, if I've had a bit of a flutter on these sticks, so what. I couldn't use it to buy more computers as they would use too much power.

That reminds me, just started assembling dual E5-2670 yesterday. Hopefully should get it going in the next week or so. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 12, 2016, 05:12:39 PM
I've no doubt the numbers will drop when they cut off GPU users.
Like you DM, I'm keen on supporting worthy campaigns but I won't fund Henri either.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 13, 2016, 12:33:10 AM
QuoteMove over David Steel! lol
:rofl: I do not think David Steel has anything to worry about from me during this decade! I wish he would drop in for a chat.
v:

EDIT: The new miners were not delivered but I did get an email from the seller that he would check into the invalid tracking #.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on July 13, 2016, 09:39:55 PM
Quote from: Dataman on July 13, 2016, 12:33:10 AM
QuoteMove over David Steel! lol
:rofl: I do not think David Steel has anything to worry about from me during this decade! I wish he would drop in for a chat.
v:

EDIT: The new miners were not delivered but I did get an email from the seller that he would check into the invalid tracking #.

Don't worry dataman i'm sure you'll get them eventually.  I've had a few miners take well over a month to arrive.   

If you remember a few months ago I was desperately trying to find ways to cut back on crunching costs,  now instead i've added 1x Bi-Fury, 2x raspberry Pi's, 3x Antminer U 3's & 5x Gekko's.  *LOL* I give up. 
I have one more U3 and a USB HUB on order but  that's it,  the piggy bank is officially empty.

At the moment only 2 of the Gekko's are working. As for the others, well 1 of them is dead, another one seems dead but I have hope for it at least & the last one seems to work fine i'm waiting for a new  hub for it and to be able to test the others as well.  The hub I have on order is a 7 port Superpbag like some of you guys have. I bought it through a forward Shipper called Hop.Shop.Go which is run by Paypal. Boy those forward shippers are straight out thieves.


As for David Steel, Boinc stats seem to show him as as team #1 but that isn't quite true.
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/list/0/0/e5cad8c6fa8c91b81bd8408c4428d8df#1 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/list/0/0/e5cad8c6fa8c91b81bd8408c4428d8df#1)

95% of his credits have came from Bitcoin Utopia. Of course thats not a problem(especially these days) but what is a problem is he doesn't crunch BU for boinc@Australia instead he crunch's for a team called "Bitcoin Australia".  After saying that i'm almost positive he would have crunched bitcoin Utopia for our team "if" we would of had a team at the time,  which of course we didn't.

The mix up is not his fault it's the fault of Boinc Stats in the way they do there stats formula's.  You see for the majority of his other projects he has cruched for Boinc@Australia,  so Boinc Stats has just lumped the total of all his projects together.  Why? Well I can only guess, but if you look at anyones combined total you will see them as member of just one team even if you are a member of multiple teams.  The team that is chosen to be on combined total page will be either the first team you've joined or the team you joined  the most accross all your projects.  For some reason your combine total can only show one team.
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/3062 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/user/detail/3062)
But he has alway crunched BU for another team
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/list/0/0/2026#1 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/144/user/list/0/0/2026#1)

But your right Dataman there are a few big hitters that for some reason never visit the teams home page. Why?  I really don't know why?
And by the way I think Chooka is right,  at the rate your going it's inevitable that you'll catch him sooner or later

The team is doing well we moved up 4 places and are like a hungry pack of lions, soon our next snack will be the Christian's.  :rofl:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45)

Sorry I couldn't help myself  :jester:  Have a good one. :wavey2:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 13, 2016, 11:31:39 PM
QuoteThe team is doing well we moved up 4 places and are like a hungry pack of lions, soon our next snack will be the Christian's.  :rofl:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45)

Sorry I couldn't help myself  :jester:  Have a good one. :wavey2:

I was going to say on the last Team Milestone post that we are about to nail them to the cross ... but I refrained ... until now.  :rofl:

EDIT: Still no new ants and no answer from the seller. My hopes are diming.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on July 14, 2016, 12:01:01 AM
Quote from: Dataman on July 13, 2016, 11:31:39 PM
QuoteThe team is doing well we moved up 4 places and are like a hungry pack of lions, soon our next snack will be the Christian's.  :rofl:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45)

Sorry I couldn't help myself  :jester:  Have a good one. :wavey2:

I was going to say on the last Team Milestone post that we are about to nail them to the cross ... but I refrained ... until now.  :rofl:

EDIT: Still no new ants and no answer from the seller. My hopes are diming.  :thumbdown:

AWESOME!!   :thumbsup:  Good one Dataman  :rofl:


Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 14, 2016, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: JugNut on July 14, 2016, 12:01:01 AM
Quote from: Dataman on July 13, 2016, 11:31:39 PM
QuoteThe team is doing well we moved up 4 places and are like a hungry pack of lions, soon our next snack will be the Christian's.  :rofl:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45)

Sorry I couldn't help myself  :jester:  Have a good one. :wavey2:

I was going to say on the last Team Milestone post that we are about to nail them to the cross ... but I refrained ... until now.  :rofl:

EDIT: Still no new ants and no answer from the seller. My hopes are diming.  :thumbdown:

AWESOME!!   :thumbsup:  Good one Dataman  :rofl:

The devil made me do it.  :jester:
I sent David Steel an email encouraging him to join our BU team. He can be contacted via the BU mail option. Would be a nice addition as we only have 8 active miners.
v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on July 14, 2016, 02:03:34 AM
Quote from: Dataman on July 14, 2016, 01:34:00 AM
Quote from: JugNut on July 14, 2016, 12:01:01 AM
Quote from: Dataman on July 13, 2016, 11:31:39 PM
QuoteThe team is doing well we moved up 4 places and are like a hungry pack of lions, soon our next snack will be the Christian's.  :rofl:
http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45 (http://boincstats.com/en/stats/-1/team/list/0/0#45)

Sorry I couldn't help myself  :jester:  Have a good one. :wavey2:

I was going to say on the last Team Milestone post that we are about to nail them to the cross ... but I refrained ... until now.  :rofl:

EDIT: Still no new ants and no answer from the seller. My hopes are diming.  :thumbdown:

AWESOME!!   :thumbsup:  Good one Dataman  :rofl:

The devil made me do it.  :jester:
I sent David Steel an email encouraging him to join our BU team. He can be contacted via the BU mail option. Would be a nice addition as we only have 8 active miners.
v:

Yes he would.  Nice try DM  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on July 14, 2016, 02:53:38 AM
Yes David Steel would add nicely to our few BU members. Calin is also crunching Bitcoin Utopia without a team.

Wouldn't give up on the Antminers just yet, freight from China can take a very long time to Australia, could be similar from China to America.

Overtaking Christians eh:

What does Jesus do at the gym?
Cross training

How does Moses make his coffee?
Hebrews it.

Who was the greatest comedian in the Bible?
Samson. He brought the house down.

What brand of car did the Apostles drive?
Honda... because the apostles were all in one Accord.

Need an ark?
I noah guy.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 14, 2016, 03:10:53 AM
Quote from: kashi on July 14, 2016, 02:53:38 AM
Yes David Steel would add nicely to our few BU members. Calin is also crunching Bitcoin Utopia without a team.

Wouldn't give up on the Antminers just yet, freight from China can take a very long time to Australia, could be similar from China to America.

Overtaking Christians eh:

What does Jesus do at the gym?
Cross training

How does Moses make his coffee?
Hebrews it.

Who was the greatest comedian in the Bible?
Samson. He brought the house down.

What brand of car did the Apostles drive?
Honda... because the apostles were all in one Accord.

Need an ark?
I noah guy.
:rofl: Oh my, we have reached a new low now.  :rofl:
I will try to email Calin.
EDIT: Both PM's were successfully sent so we shall see what happens.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on July 14, 2016, 04:35:12 AM
I have been waiting since 8 Jun for a package by China Mail which contains my USB Fans.  The tracking number did not find anything either but the tracking page on amazon.ca shows it should be here by 21 July.  Must be on a slow steamer from China to Canada..

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 14, 2016, 05:05:25 AM
HAHAHA :rofl: you guys are a crack up. :crazy

I concur, freight from China is REALLY slow. Many weeks. That's why we refer to "on the slow boat from China" at work. (Our parts are made in China....like everything else)
We'll overtake Bitcoin Australia soon anyway.

GTG to work. Have a good day all :)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on July 14, 2016, 08:14:33 AM
Quote from: kashi on July 14, 2016, 02:53:38 AM
Yes David Steel would add nicely to our few BU members. Calin is also crunching Bitcoin Utopia without a team.

Wouldn't give up on the Antminers just yet, freight from China can take a very long time to Australia, could be similar from China to America.

Overtaking Christians eh:

What does Jesus do at the gym?
Cross training

How does Moses make his coffee?
Hebrews it.

Who was the greatest comedian in the Bible?
Samson. He brought the house down.

What brand of car did the Apostles drive?
Honda... because the apostles were all in one Accord.

Need an ark?
I noah guy.

Oh kashi your a bad,  bad man.   But still I almost wet myself laughing  :rofl: :rofl:  Good one buddy  :thumbsup:

Since we're on a theme,  check these out.(yes they are basically clean)  I was going to cut & paste a few but naa they'd take up to much space.  enjoy.. 
http://www.laughfactory.com/jokes/religious-jokes (http://www.laughfactory.com/jokes/religious-jokes)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 21, 2016, 01:54:33 AM
Fun and games with my missing Ants. The seller supposedly reshipped them. But instead of using DHL (4 day delivery) he shipped them by GuangDongShengShenZhenShi  (say that fast 3 times  biggrin ) which has a 23 day delivery (by wind powered Chinese junk  :jester:). Tried to look up the tracking number (after translating the page) and got a popup stating tracking is valid only inside China. It will be snowing here before I get them ... if ever. Mentally I have written them off. If they show up I will be pleasantly surprised.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 23, 2016, 07:06:32 AM
I really feel for all the people who bought great video cards to rack up their massive BU scores...... only to have the project stop supporting GPU's.
There's a lot of people not producing any credits anymore. Only those of us with ASIC devices are left.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on July 23, 2016, 02:15:19 PM
Yes the ASICs give ridiculous amounts of credit. Although the power use is small, the hardware doesn't come that cheaply, because they are so unreliable very quickly. If you ask the seller about a dead one he directs you to the manufacturer, if you ask the manufacturer he directs you to the seller. Classic pass the buck scenario which is illegal in Australia.

Of the 5 of us with Gekkos, at least 3 of us have 1 or more dead uns. The one of mine that wasn't connected to the powered hub gave up the ghost a few days ago. Light just stays in bright mining mode all the time. Something starting to go awry with the other 4 too, different ones keeps losing connection daily after working perfectly for weeks. It's not as if it takes long either, chooka's one died after 3 days, my one after about 3-4 weeks.

Plus there's the problem sourcing them, such as high cost of freight from USA for Gekkos, unreliable supply of Antminer U3s from China and unavailability of suitable powered hubs in Australia. Judging by tales on other forums of dead Antminer U3s, it's not just Gekkos that are unreliable either.

Mine are off currently while I'm reorganising things for a new build.

I know GPUs are more expensive each, suck oodles of power and when used intensively for crunching are likely to break down too, but you usually can get a year or more out of them and they have a warranty as well. It's a bit galling that my CPU has been crunching non stop at 90% load for 6-7 years now and one of my miners is kaput after 3 weeks. Still, it wouldn't be as much fun if it wasn't risky, would it?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 23, 2016, 11:10:39 PM
Why do I keep getting the feeling this is just all smoke and mirrors?
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-core-ethereum-hard-fork-unsettling-precedent/
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 24, 2016, 12:12:27 AM
Ah Kashi, your broken miner has suffered the same fate as mine. Purple/white light stuck on.
I try plugging it in every so often but nothing changes. I've played with the voltage...nothing. I think it's a goner.

If mine die, I won't replace then. I'll just revert to go ol crunching.

Have a good weekend all  :wave:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 25, 2016, 03:56:43 PM
Uh Oh...seems another one of my miners has kicked the bucket  :thumbdown:
2/5 now no good. Bit of a waste of money I'm thinking.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 29, 2016, 05:07:01 AM
Unbelievable........... :angry: It looks like yet ANOTHER miner has died!
I'm now left with 2 out of 5.
What a rip off these things were. They are just sitting in a power USB hub...I'm not doing anything with them.
Not happy!!
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on July 29, 2016, 08:08:31 AM
I must have gotten a good bunch , touch wood, as all four of mine are crunching away in a powered hub without any input from me.  Not to say that they won't crash tomorrow, because I put in this post   :wink
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 29, 2016, 09:07:07 AM
All 14 of mine work as well as the 2 ants. Been shutting down during the day and running at night due to the current heat wave. Hopefully cooler weather next week
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 30, 2016, 08:01:50 AM
Well I have no idea why mine are dying  ???
Having said that...Kashi - The one that had the light stuck on (purple) has resurrected itself last night after being buggered for what?.........1-2 months.
I don't think it will last though.

My other 2 which don't work, One has voltage going to it but no action...the other has no voltage & no action.

I give up lol.

:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on July 31, 2016, 12:59:10 AM
 :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint: :faint:
I got a refund from China on my U3's. It took <24 hours to debit my account but >2 weeks to credit it.  :thumbdown: At least they did refund the amount.

I tried to run some asteroid CPU's with a gecko array and the miners went offline. Asteroids took ALL the CPU and the miners could not get any. I have the same problem with the GPU's on asteroids. They take so much GPU that I can't run video.
Still too damn hot here. We may get a break in the heat wave on Monday.
:greet

EDIT: I gave up on Asteroids and tried to run some POGS with the miners ... POGS is out of work. Which line do I stand in to surrender?  :jester:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on July 31, 2016, 02:38:31 AM
I have gone back to SETI because POGS is out of work and my Gecko's work with it and I am running Collatz on my one GPU that I have running. 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on July 31, 2016, 08:23:49 PM
Oh...thats interesting to hear that the Gecko's work on something other than BU!
Thanks guys  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Sean on July 31, 2016, 09:06:09 PM
How does the Gekko work with Boinc? Is it detected as an extra CPU/GPU core? What kind of times are people getting on non-bitcoin tasks?

First I've heard of them.  :jester:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on August 01, 2016, 12:39:34 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on July 31, 2016, 08:23:49 PM
Oh...thats interesting to hear that the Gecko's work on something other than BU!
Thanks guys  :thumbsup:

They do not. They only mine Bitcoins.
Let me rephrase. Since I started mining, I have not been running any CPU projects. Each miner takes something less than .1 CPU but an array of 7 take over half. Asteroids is very CPU intensive and takes 100% if it can get it (same with its GPU). What is happening when I run Asteroids on the CPU's is when a miner tries to start a new task there is no CPU resources available and the miner can not start. It looks like it is running but is not doing anything (stops flashing). This does not happen with POGS and I assume with most other CPU projects. I have always had problems with Asteroids and some GPU projects that use a lot of CPU with the GPU. The GPU task tries to start but does not have enough CPU so it gets a comp error. This has also happened when I've tried Asteroids with vBox CPU projects. I got some POGS resends yesterday and they ran fine with the miners.
I am not running any CPU's until I finish 100 million at PG on the GPU's (end of Aug.). Just running 10 GPU's and the miners because of the heat. 10F drop in the heat today and next week looks good
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on August 01, 2016, 04:26:56 AM
Yes not running the Gecko's on projects other than Bitcoin but with other projects on CPU.  Sorry if I didn't explain it correctly the first time  :jester:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Sean on August 01, 2016, 08:56:44 AM
Ah right! Yes just re-read your original posts and it's much clearer now.  :wink
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on August 01, 2016, 03:48:30 PM
Yea i'm with you guys there are just some projects that use way to many system resources that interfere with the miners operation. I've been crunching POGS with little if any problem but then when POGS ran out of work I switched to SR-Base then almost straight away I started having  problems with my miners starting to slow right down or just stopping altogether, with the gekko's worst affected.

Also the LLR based tasks which are similar to ones used at Prime Grid seem to play havoc with my main cruncher. I was running 14 threads of POGS but when I tried the same with SR-Base tasks it took only a few hours to crash the system.  When I restarted I noticed the CPU running at close to 80 degs. Since i'd never crunched SR-Base before I started looking into a bit & it seems their tasks use the CPU's AVX function so I started only running 8 threads as its a 8 core/16 thread CPU but even that was to much for the system and it crashed again.  I been running the same overclock almost ever since I owned it but now have had to run it at stock just to keep things going. This is the most dramatic effect I've had from any CPU tasks at any project, err ever.  Even my other PC's are hurting too and are at there limit heat wise,  i'm not sure if it's just these tasks or all SR-Base tasks but they really draw a lot a juice & heat the CPU well above normal.  If this keeps up i'll just move to another project.  They do give very decent credit through if you can cope with the heat, but still not worth cooking your CPU is it?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on August 01, 2016, 07:19:28 PM
Ah thank you for the clarification.
Something else that interferes with a ASIC miner...... a VPN.
My tasks are all invalid if I have my VPN on. Really screws with them.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on August 02, 2016, 04:45:33 AM
The moon is in the 7th house and Jupiter aligned with Mars ... and I got my best day ever with  312,594,442  BOINC credits.  :rofl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxSCAalsBE

:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on August 02, 2016, 05:37:46 AM
Congrats, I remember all those songs well from the 60's and 70's as I am an old fart  :crazy
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on August 02, 2016, 08:45:53 AM
Great total; hammer time, Lewis. :thumbsup:

Haha, I've still got my colourful programme and yellow Be-in, Be-in, Yip! Yip! Yip! handout from Hair. Saw it at Kings Cross in 1969. Great band they had, Tully, I really liked them. Wow, that's almost 50 years ago!
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on August 02, 2016, 10:25:05 AM
I saw "Hair" the same year in San Diego. It caused a big uproar when it was announced to be coming to the new Civic Theater. The churches got together for protest rallies replete with signs reading "Don't Bring Porn to San Diego". (Note: There's been porn in San Diego since the Navy first dropped an anchor there.  biggrin ) The City Council met to debate whether or not to issue a license. The resultant publicity made absolutely everyone want to go. I remember that my girl friend (who was eventually my ex-wife) and I waited weeks to get tickets. I watched the Broadway version on video a few years ago. A couple of minutes of full nudity just before the final curtain dropped. How tame it seems by today's standards.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on August 02, 2016, 01:27:03 PM
Yes I saw Hair in Sydney in 1969, saw the Beatles in Sydney in 1964 and the Rolling Stones in 1965.   I was a Mod but most of my friends were Rockers.   Good times were had by all, well most of the time.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on August 02, 2016, 05:06:02 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on July 30, 2016, 08:01:50 AM

Having said that...Kashi - The one that had the light stuck on (purple) has resurrected itself last night after being buggered for what?.........1-2 months.
I don't think it will last though.


And there it goes....stuck on purple again.  :hbang:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on August 02, 2016, 07:48:09 PM
By geez your not having much luck there Chooka. :(
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on August 03, 2016, 05:11:49 AM
Nah pretty unhappy to be honest Jugnuts. :thumbdown:
3/5 are not working anymore. I've no idea why mine have stopped. The only thing I did was increase the voltage until they were stable which is around 0.71V.... way under their maximum.

:compbash:

What more can I say. I feel ripped off.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on August 03, 2016, 05:49:49 AM
Did you have a fan on them? Because my "recommended" (ha!) hub could only cope with 4, I plugged the 5th one into my monitor with no fan. That's the one that died.

Although they are supposed to be safe to run at default speed/volts without a fan, the default speed they are talking about is 150 MHz for the cgminer program. Whereas Bitcoin Utopia identifies Gekkos as Antminer U3s and runs them at a much higher speed (250 MHz?), which is why we often need to increase the voltage over what they are set/tested at, to get them to run Bitcoin Utopia stably or at all. Of course Antminer U3s have a built in fan constantly blowing down on the hot chips. Even then they are reported to be unreliable too.

So running Bitcoin Utopia, the Gekkos get hot enough to burn you without a fan on them. It is my suspicion that this excessive heat was the major contributing factor to my Gekko's sad and ignoble demise. Alas, my hot chip has been swooped on and devoured by the seagull of death.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Mike Mitchell on August 03, 2016, 12:00:14 PM
Quote from: Dataman on August 02, 2016, 04:45:33 AM
The moon is in the 7th house and Jupiter aligned with Mars ... and I got my best day ever with  312,594,442  BOINC credits.  :rofl:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjxSCAalsBE

:greet

That was one of the first records I bought. :-)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on August 08, 2016, 08:16:29 AM
Quote from: kashi on August 03, 2016, 05:49:49 AM
Did you have a fan on them? Because my "recommended" (ha!) hub could only cope with 4, I plugged the 5th one into my monitor with no fan. That's the one that died.

So running Bitcoin Utopia, the Gekkos get hot enough to burn you without a fan on them. It is my suspicion that this excessive heat was the major contributing factor to my Gekko's sad and ignoble demise. Alas, my hot chip has been swooped on and devoured by the seagull of death.

LOL.
No mate I do not use a fan on them.
Meh...once their dead....good riddance I say.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on August 09, 2016, 12:42:13 AM
Reuters
"The U.S. government said on Monday it plans to auction over 2,700 bitcoin that were forfeited during several cases, including the prosecution of the creator of the online black market known as Silk Road. The U.S. Marshals Service said that the online auction would be held on Aug. 22, and that potential bidders must register by Aug. 18. The bitcoin are worth nearly $16.1 million, according to the Bitstamp exchange."

:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on August 09, 2016, 07:44:36 PM
Can I just say..... I bought my miners through Holy Bitcoin. I've noticed that Scott from Holy Bitcoin is not approving my review on this product so be aware when you see 4 star reviews on his website.
I think that's really dodgy to pick & choose which customers honest feedback is posted on his website.

I've stated that Holy Bitcoin was great to deal with but with 3/5 miners dead, I'm not impressed.

Just wanted to put that out there. :sneaky:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on August 09, 2016, 11:06:29 PM
Your doing the right thing chooka,  i'm sure yours is not the first bad review he has had.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on August 17, 2016, 01:29:44 AM
Last week was a disaster on the mining front for me. One array keeps failing and I awake to find it has been doing nothing all night.  :panic:
Over the weekend I tried an experiment and put all 14 gecko's on one machine that was doing nothing but mining. I could only get one of the arrays to work and it stopped within a few hours so I had to switch back.   :pcwhack: This has reduced my BU credits by half. I think the green lizards are possessed by demons.  biggrin The U3's crunch on without problems
Meanwhile I have enough credits in the PV jail at PG to reach 100 million so I have stopped all of the GPU's. I want to put everything on Asteroids but to do this I need to isolate the miners on one machine. Not sure why my experiment did not work but I didn't have time to investigate (Karen had another task list for me  :jester: ).
Still hot here but a chance of a shower or two by the end of the week.
Crunch on mates ...
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on August 17, 2016, 04:14:04 AM
Dataman I was away from home and turned off my PC while I was away.  It is the one I have my miners attached to so I had a couple of days without Bitcoin credit as well.  Mine seem to be taking a little bit longer to complete work units but in the whole all four are still crunching up a storm.  On the one PC I have six POGS CPU tasks, one Einstein GPU and the four miners running on a powered hub and all is good except when it is really hot.  :rocks    I have two dedicated servers on the web that crunch 24/7 on POGS.  One is my web server for dingo-den.com and the other I use to backup the web server.  I use the SoYouStart (https://www.soyoustart.com/ca/en/) company as they have Linux servers in Canada for a reasonable price.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on August 25, 2016, 01:12:09 AM
Mining Tip of the Day: A hemostat works great to remove hot stick miners from an array!
Burnt my fingers (again!) and found a solution to the problem. Also found out why I was having problems with one array. The power switch on the hub had been inadvertently turned off. I blame the cat for that but it was probably me.  biggrin
The weather is great here in the foothills. Fall is usually the best weather of the year.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on August 28, 2016, 12:12:53 AM
What's up with BU? Yesterday Campaign #7 was 30%+ and today it is 105% and Henri has closed it down.  ???  Only two are still running; MW @ 77% and SRBase at 41%. No other news. The future looks bleak.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on August 29, 2016, 11:48:45 PM
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-bitcoin-cyber-analysis-idUSKCN11411T
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on September 04, 2016, 02:25:16 AM
Calin (Romania) has joined us at BU.  :welcome1: Calin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on September 05, 2016, 06:19:39 AM
 :welcome1: Calin.  :wavey2:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on September 05, 2016, 04:02:18 PM
Welcome Calin!
:AUS: :rom
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: dyeman on September 06, 2016, 09:55:36 PM
HaHa just found this - what a laugh - great to see y'all having fun :-).  

Where I live we have a lot of gekkos - they are asian gekkos (have outcompeted the native species).  One of their claims to fame is blowing up electrical things on the way to gekko heaven. (make sure they aren't living in your air conditioner).  There must be a moral here somewhere...  

I'm surprised I'm still hanging on to the team top 10 without a single gekko :compbash:

I've got my own solution to BU madness - turn off gekkos in BoincStats, and get stuck into FAH - a benevolent dictatorship where All Points Are Equal :-)

Of course I'll always be back for the AAs :AUS:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on September 10, 2016, 01:18:18 AM
One of my lizards is either "pining for the fiords" or it is dead.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on September 10, 2016, 07:51:52 AM
Nah, it's just stunned. By the way, are you interested in a slug that can talk?  :crazy
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on September 10, 2016, 10:12:22 AM
It must be a mass extinction event as one of my ants just bit the dust also.  :faint:

I'm now using a spare ant i've kept as a replacement. The reason I havn't used is it's a secondhand one that's seems to be on it's last legs, it has to be reset 3 or 4 times a day so i'm not sure how long it will last.  But i'm not buying anymore unless it's an out & out bargain.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on September 10, 2016, 10:16:24 AM
Talking slugs? Dead ants and lizards? Must be a storm of stray neutrinos.  :panic:

Nope not pining or stunned ... seriously dead. Windows no longer detects 7 but only 6.  But which one is dead? That is the question.  ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on September 10, 2016, 10:37:58 AM
Quote from: JugNut on September 10, 2016, 10:12:22 AM
It must be a mass extinction event as one of my ants just bit the dust also.  :faint:

I'm now using a spare ant i've kept as a replacement. The reason I havn't used is it's a secondhand one that's seems to be on it's last legs, it has to be reset 3 or 4 times a day so i'm not sure how long it will last.  But i'm not buying anymore unless it's an out & out bargain.
I am not buying anymore either. I still think BU is on its last legs and all the stick miners will be relegated to the junk drawer. But the team numbers are awesome while it lasts.
v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on September 10, 2016, 12:55:33 PM
Quote from: Dataman on September 10, 2016, 10:16:24 AM

Nope not .......  But which one is dead? That is the question.  ???

Wouldn't it be the stick that's not flashing any longer?  Or can't you see them properly where they are?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on September 11, 2016, 12:20:33 AM
Unfortunately 4 of them do not flash even though they still work fine. I had all the non-flashers in one array so I could keep an eye on them. I found the dead one by removing them one-by-one while looking at the device manager. I started with the non-flashers and found it on the second try. The green light works so it is getting power from the hub but Windows no longer sees it as a device. Going to stick it into a different machine just to make sure it is not a problem with the port on the hub but I am rather sure it is a "dead parrot". Also had to change the config file because if you tell BOINC you have 7 miners it starts 7 wu's even though there are only 6 miners.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on September 11, 2016, 03:14:04 AM
I noticed they need to have an internet connection all the time to work.  The blue/purple (I am color blind) only flashes when there is an internet connection.   I had to unplug my powered hub and re-start all four of my geckos today as they had power but no flashing lights.  Then saw that my USB internet adaptor was not working.  After I unplugged and plugged in the internet adaptor they started up again.

I think that my four gekos will not last too long either.  They are still getting good credit but looking at the stderr.txt there are times when it is not getting the info it needs, but this also could be that my network adaptor stops working from time to time.   I will keep them going as long as they work and there is work for them to do.   :rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on September 11, 2016, 06:44:56 AM
Quote from: Dataman on September 11, 2016, 12:20:33 AM
Unfortunately 4 of them do not flash even though they still work fine. I had all the non-flashers in one array so I could keep an eye on them. I found the dead one by removing them one-by-one while looking at the device manager. I started with the non-flashers and found it on the second try. The green light works so it is getting power from the hub but Windows no longer sees it as a device. Going to stick it into a different machine just to make sure it is not a problem with the port on the hub but I am rather sure it is a "dead parrot". Also had to change the config file because if you tell BOINC you have 7 miners it starts 7 wu's even though there are only 6 miners.
:greet

Oh! that does make it difficult doesn't it?  I had heard about that problem but thankfully it never happened to me.  But it's good you got it figured out in the end though, even though it means your now down one lizard :(
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on September 18, 2016, 01:00:14 AM
After the "forced" update to the current Win10 "upgrade" my two ants went walkabout for 15 hours before I noticed they were not doing anything.  :furious: Had to boot DM7 again to get them working. I HATE MICROSOFT!!!!
Other than that ... life is good. Nice Fall weather here.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on September 18, 2016, 04:18:12 AM
I have the same update pending because my USB network adaptor is not compatible with Windows 10 update.  It is working fine on the Windows 10 that is installed on the PC but the update will not complete till I get another adaptor.  Just another pain in the ass from Microsoft.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on September 21, 2016, 10:44:00 AM
OK Purchased a new USB Network adaptor that had a windows 10 driver that I could download.  The new "Feature update to Windows 10, version 1607" then installed after a long time and multiple reboots.

All my Geckos stopped working after the update but remembered that someone said that they need to re install the "WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385)" driver and after that they all took off and running again.

Haven't had it installed long enough to notice anything different from the initial Win 10 I installed a long time ago,

Crunch on brother and sisters and remember  :rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on September 23, 2016, 06:40:43 PM
I dont know if anyone else noticed that a few days back we got a couple of extremely good days credit from BU.  (some 130 mil extra over a period couple of days in my case)
But it seems what Bitcoin giveth one day it taketh away the next :(


EDIT:  Well so far it looks like it may have been just an update glitch today as my credits are now getting close to what they should be.  Yea! maybe we will get to keep the extra after all.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on September 24, 2016, 12:36:00 AM
I did not notice anything but I am down one gecko and the  :furious: Win10 update killed one array until I noticed the update loaded the old drivers instead of keeping the zidag drivers. It also turned back on many of the tracking BS that I had turned off!! Worse it down loaded a new version of Skype, gave me a NEW Username and logged me into Skype automatically and sent me an email that it did so as a "courtesy to me". Also, now I must log on with my MS Store password BEFORE I can start Windows. I still have not figured out how to turn that off. I am still turning things back off an uninstalling software.
Microsoft should be listed as a TERRORIST COMPANY!!!!  :furious:  :furious:
:thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on September 24, 2016, 05:05:51 AM
Did the same to me and also windows update are set to Auto install, no where to select what you want to install.  I used to not install the Video drivers from Microsoft as they screwed up BOINC a lot of the time.

I also did the update on my laptop but had to revert to the previous version of windows (Still Win 10) as it kept getting the blue screen of death.   I think there is only 30 days time period that you can revert back.

Windows Key+I will get you to "Windows Settings"
Click "Update and security"
Click "Recovery"

From here you can Reset, Go Back or Advanced startup.


Not for the faint of heart as you could get locked out if going back to a previous version and that version had a different login and password and you can't remember.


Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on September 24, 2016, 10:39:09 AM
Must stick my miners back on. Old computer which had the Gekko fan connected has been turned off now, so have to connect it to the new one. Will need to plug in a molex cable to the PSU so fan extension cable can be attached.

Know what y'all mean about Windows 10 updating things automatically and rebooting which stops BOINC, plus changing things back to default without asking. So annoying and frustrating (shakes fist at Microsoft, haha).

I worked around it partially by using Group Policy to disable automatic updates. You need Pro version to do that. Still not the greatest as then received a notification almost every day that there were updates available which were usually for Windows Defender. They didn't require a reboot however so only a minor annoyance really. And for other updates, at least I got the chance to see what they were and choose when to install them, especially if they required a reboot.

Think you can set your connection as metered to disable auto updates also.

Anniversary Update I installed just before shutting that computer down had some Active Hours thingo which meant it would allow configuration of reboot at a certain time. Perhaps useful for amateur home users but just more annoying useless fluff for professional BOINC users. Automatically updating graphic card drivers for BOINC GPU crunchers is totally unacceptable, no more needs to be said.

That's why I chose to stay on Win 8.1 on Skylake box and install it on recently built dual Xeon. With Classic Shell, it's not too bad. Still preferred Win 7 though.
10 reasons you shouldn't upgrade to Windows 10 (http://www.infoworld.com/article/2972298/microsoft-windows/10-reasons-you-shouldnt-upgrade-to-windows-10.html)

I can never be sure with new versions of Windows whether unfamiliarity breeds contempt or whether the older versions really were better. Suppose for BOINC users efficiency is key, so not only was Windows XP Pro x64 the best as it is faster for GPU processing but personally I found it best to use. The original 32-bit XP version used to blue screen too often on my computers but the XP Pro x64 version was stable. Possibly because it was based on Windows Server 2003 kernel so its "guts" was actually quite different to the normal 32-bit Windows XP.

All academic I suppose as you can't really run the older versions safely as they're no longer secure once support has ended. Relief from Microsoft's recent "upgrade über alles" policy will only be temporary for Win 8.1 anyhow as reportedly they plan to soon combine all separate updates into an update batch, so you will no longer be free to pick and choose which separate updates to download and install. If they manage to bugger up GPU crunching repeatedly with driver updates, then a move to Linux will become almost compulsory.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on September 27, 2016, 04:49:31 AM
I'm in the camp of "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" so I'll be staying with Win 7.
It must run in the family as my dad still runs Win XP! :crazy
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on October 11, 2016, 01:04:17 AM
Campaign 10 is ending and no new news. Noticed Henri is still generating CPU and GPU wu's for his own campaign.  :thumbdown:  Campaign 3 is about 90% done. To use an old but guttural US expression; it's time for Henri to $#!+ or get off the pot!
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on October 12, 2016, 05:52:07 AM
Yep I noticed that yesterday too DM.
Does he not understand that there are people out there with powerful tools who WANT to raise money to help people? That's essentially what BU does. I'm a bit surprised bu his lack of action.
I might stick it to him on the BU forum when I have a few minutes. (usually by Friday)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on October 12, 2016, 06:28:04 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on October 12, 2016, 05:52:07 AM
Yep I noticed that yesterday too DM.
Does he not understand that there are people out there with powerful tools who WANT to raise money to help people? That's essentially what BU does. I'm a bit surprised bu his lack of action.
I might stick it to him on the BU forum when I have a few minutes. (usually by Friday)
Funny you should say that as I did just that this morning.
http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=1095&postid=11551#11551
I wish he would just shut it down.  :angry:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on October 12, 2016, 05:24:20 PM
LOL :rofl:
Oh wow..... that was far worse than what I was going to say!! HAHAHA
Nice. Well done.

I'll play good cop now.  :dance2:
:rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on October 24, 2016, 09:18:00 AM
Ho Hum?

Changes are coming
Some changes I have planned for the near-future:
- I will shut down www.bitcoinutopia.com (this should save us around 60 euros a year).
- Bitcoin Utopia will fund only BOINC projects and sites heavily related to BOINC.
- I should get and set up a certificate to support https protocol.

Henri.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on October 24, 2016, 02:35:18 PM
What the heck does that even mean?

I mean Henri says he's now only going to fund "BOINC projects and sites heavily related to BOINC."
Err wont that be a little hard when he's going to close down BitcoinUtopia?

This guy creates more questions than he does answers...  ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on October 24, 2016, 05:49:15 PM
Think he means he will shut down the bitcoinutopia.com website. The bitcoinutopia.net website (BOINC) would remain.

I didn't even know there was a bitcoinutopia.com website until today.  ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on October 25, 2016, 12:24:10 AM
Yea it's the first i've heard of it too.  ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on October 25, 2016, 12:26:48 AM
I do not know what it means either. Would be good if he sticks to BOINC projects ...  ???  We should know soon as #3 is at 99%.


:buzz
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on October 25, 2016, 01:04:08 AM
Yea I haven't had much luck with the miners I bought.   I'm now down 2 x Antminer U3's & a Gekko. Although the 2 U3's that died were purchased second hand very cheaply so maybe they were near death. I eventually bought a second hand Rockminer r-box 2 and it's considerably more reliable & hash at 110GH (127mil a day).  Hard to find though,  well at a decent price anyway. This one's cheap enough though.. https://www.amazon.com/RockMiner-New-R-Box-2-0-Bitcoin/dp/B00NG10PMS (https://www.amazon.com/RockMiner-New-R-Box-2-0-Bitcoin/dp/B00NG10PMS)

BU will have to prove it'self this time around before I spend another cent. As DM mentioned we'll soon see which way the wind is blowing.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on October 25, 2016, 01:50:49 AM
Well Henri is talking a lot this morning but not actually saying much.  :thumbdown: I am not spending any more money either on BU. I have one dead lizard and two more that are a bit flakey.

This has been a terrible crunching year for me. I started it with 7 of the 8 machines working. Now I only have 3 working. Some need major parts (motherboards, CPU's, GPU's) some just need a power supply. One seems to have a screwed up BIOS. Trouble is I do not want to spend the TIME or money to get the old farm modernized. In round numbers I have spent around a $100K USD on crunching in the last 12 years. I have been watching BOINC with a more critical eye of late. In a dozen years the med projects have not done much of anything (IMO). There is a lack of funding to take even the promising compounds to the next level (wet labs). Math projects have never excited me all that much so I have concentrated on Astronomy/Physics/Cosmology. There seems to be more projects ending than new ones starting up.
For the past 30 days I ran only the miners and my electric bill dropped by over $500 USD as the miners use almost no power. The cost to do CPU/GPU crunching just keeps skyrocketing with the price of electricity here.  :thumbdown:

Not sure what the future holds but I will keep watching.
:bloodshot
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on October 25, 2016, 04:04:43 AM
I hear you DM but there's no great hurry to fix all your rigs all at once is there? Boinc doesn't have to be  all or nothing deal.  Besides your mojo will return & when it does your PC's will be waiting no matter how long it takes.  For 12 years you've believed in boinc it's in your blood to stay.  All i'm saying is no one will think less of you no matter how much or how little you contribute, you know that's true especially in this team. The truth is we will probably never know how much good we have achieved but that doesn't mean we shouldn't try and just give up.

Besides what would the team do without it's favourite yank ;)


PS: LOL Besides in the last 4 months your credits have increased well over 30 fold not to shabby for a guy missing a few PC's
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on October 25, 2016, 04:14:16 AM
We can only crunch what we can, weather it is cost of electricity or upgrades.  I have been down to one laptop at times and at I have had 9 Pc's running at another.  I have stopped having multiple computers at home and now spend the $$ I would spend on electricity on dedicated servers.  I have two dedicated servers that have 4 cores and are hyperthreaded so 8 CPU's.  One I use for my web site and BOINC and the other is a backup and also for BOINC.  I spend about $118 a month for them both which is what I used to spend on power, but there are cheaper and more expensive ones.   I use a company called SoYouStart as they are in Canada, but are a Chinese company I think. https://www.soyoustart.com/ca/en/  I do not get anything for this advertisement just passing on the info.  I also have a laptop and a PC in my trailer which is running 100% on BOINC.   Since moving back to Canada and in Arizona I have noticed that the Electricity prices are more that half od the price in Australia.  I am paying between 8.03 Cents and 13.31 Cents per Kwa and when I left Australia it was over 33 Cents per Kwa.

Dataman I have been thinking the same things about the projects but as the founder of the Team I will keep on crunching till I can't afford it or I pass the baton on to someone else.  Everyone needs to make decisions for themselves on how much and even if they crunch.

Till then crunch on Brothers and sisters and remember  :rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on October 25, 2016, 04:48:46 AM
Quote from: JugNut on October 25, 2016, 04:04:43 AM
Besides what would the team do without it's favourite yank ;)
Oh, I am not going to give up crunching. When the cold weather sets in, I will probably start fixing some of them. It is about time more than money. Beside, life would not be as much fun without my mates down under.   biggrin

:cheers:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on October 25, 2016, 11:08:33 AM
OK finally got Internet connected today so started Bitcoin up again.  Just crunching Milkyway (Campaign #3) as the others don't appeal to me.  Is that what others are crunching ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on October 25, 2016, 12:16:20 PM
Quote from: Dingo on October 25, 2016, 11:08:33 AM
OK finally got Internet connected today so started Bitcoin up again.  Just crunching Milkyway (Campaign #3) as the others don't appeal to me.  Is that what others are crunching ???

Yep that's what i'm doing as there really isn't anything else to do,  campaign #10 is now closed & that just leaves campaign #3 & #7.  Since campaign #7 is for BU (which is also supposed to be closed) that just leaves campaign #3 Milkyway  :(
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on October 25, 2016, 12:18:22 PM
Quote from: Dataman on October 25, 2016, 04:48:46 AM
Quote from: JugNut on October 25, 2016, 04:04:43 AM
Besides what would the team do without it's favourite yank ;)
Oh, I am not going to give up crunching. When the cold weather sets in, I will probably start fixing some of them. It is about time more than money. Beside, life would not be as much fun without my mates down under.   biggrin

:cheers:

Good to hear Dataman  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on October 26, 2016, 06:36:02 PM
I can totally relate to the power bill. We are heading into Summer now so on days where the air con is on, crunching goes off.
I'm looking at putting solar on soon so that will help a little.

I only crunch project #3.

Henri...well what can you say.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on October 30, 2016, 01:25:10 PM
Well campaign #3 is done. I don't really know what to do now.
I have 2 options. 1) Cease Bitcoin crunching or 2) Crunch #7 for BU...which I really don't want to do.

I'm leaning towards no crunching until another project worthy of my time and money comes up.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on October 30, 2016, 03:02:06 PM
I'm with you chooka,  I don't mind crunching a bit for BU itself every now & then but I will not do it full time.  So when the MilkyWay WU's finish i'll stop crunching there too, at least until there's something worth supporting again.

LOL it's always the way isn't it,  in another couple of days I would have gotten 40 bil combined credit. Oh well I suppose i'll just have to do it the hard way ;)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on October 30, 2016, 07:13:42 PM
I wont hold it against you mate if you want to run #7 just to make your 40 Mil biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on October 31, 2016, 12:01:18 AM
I am with you mates. I will not crunch #7 just to give Henri money. I have shut down all my miners until such time something better comes along.
EDIT: I put 3 machines on Einstein (GPU) and POGS (CPU). That is the best I can do currently. I hope we can hold our 31st world position ... time will tell.  :panic:
EDIT2: Gee Whiz it sure looks funny here without the "light show". Even Karen noticed it.  :rofl:

:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on October 31, 2016, 02:57:57 AM
I still have a few work units to crunch on #3 then I will stop as well.  Maybe a new project for BOINC will come out soon.  I am crunching POGS and TN-Grid at the moment on CPU and also one GPU finishing some Collatz then doing Einstein.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on October 31, 2016, 03:43:53 PM
 I don't object to doing #7 for a week or 2 for our favourite Finn* until #12 starts again. It's not as though it's very much anyway.

Hope they remember to remove the time limit on the 20+ GH/s #12 tasks. Doing those little 3-4 minute 1.6 GH/s #7 tasks is a nuisance as I have one stick that loses contact. In the meantime I edited the #7 20+ GH/s job .xml file with the backspace method and changed it from 5400 to 20000 seconds but don't know if it works yet.

*Finnish humour is dry. Text conversation with my mate Jarkko:
"Yesterday marked 21 years since I arrived in Finland."
"Did you celebrate with a beer and a sausage?"
"No. I've become Finnish. I told no one. I sat in the dark in silence and thought about herrings."
"That's the spirit."

Q: How do you know a Finnish man is madly in love with his wife?
A: He almost tells her.

Mika and Peppe hadn't seen each other for ages, so they decided to get together for "one" beer. At the end of the first pint Peppe says
"How have you been?" Mika just grunts in reply.
At the end of the second pint Peppe asks
"So how's your family?" Again, Mika just grunts in reply.
After three pints Peppe asks
"How's work going?" Mika turns and shouts
"Perkele! Did we come here to talk or drink?!"
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on October 31, 2016, 06:27:12 PM
Quote from: kashi on October 31, 2016, 03:43:53 PM

Hope they remember to remove the time limit on the 20+ GH/s #12 tasks. Doing those little 3-4 minute 1.6 GH/s #7 tasks is a nuisance as I have one stick that loses contact. In the meantime I edited the #7 20+ GH/s job .xml file with the backspace method and changed it from 5400 to 20000 seconds but don't know if it works yet.


Mmm clever  :thumbsup:  Up there for think'in and down there for dancing hey kashi?  :jester: 

Let us know how it works out.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on October 31, 2016, 11:48:19 PM
Yes, it's working fine so far.

Backspace trick not even really necessary as #7 tasks only run 2 hours compared to 4 hours for #3 tasks. So should be able to just change 5400 seconds to 9999 seconds and have the same file size. Would give extra 46 minutes after the 2 hours runtime before tasks time out.

Dancing? Just got a new Achroplat platter for my turntable. Been playing Nat King Cole, Ray Brown Trio and King Crimson today. Very groovy.

Funk Firm LSD, it takes you trips around the bay, brings you back the same day. :dance:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on November 01, 2016, 02:48:00 AM
Thanks for the groovy info kashi..  O0 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on November 01, 2016, 03:03:32 AM
Quote from: kashi on October 31, 2016, 03:43:53 PM
Q: How do you know a Finnish man is madly in love with his wife?
A: He almost tells her.
:rofl:

I can support #12 for Free-DC. Hope they get it started soon ... I miss the light show.  biggrin
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on November 02, 2016, 09:50:53 AM
#12 is running. My lizards time out on the 20+gh so I switched them to 1.6+gh. The ants are working at 20+gh.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on November 02, 2016, 11:14:18 AM
Niether my gekko's or my ants are working with #12 20GH tasks.  I think it's the wrong version of CGminer at least for the 20GH tasks?

Have to go to dentist now will try later.  :(
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on November 02, 2016, 01:01:03 PM
Yep, all mine are completing with validate errors.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on November 03, 2016, 05:59:39 AM
Update:  The #12 20GH units have been updated and are now working.   And they now have no time limit on them so are good to go on all our miners :)

But the 333MH and 1.6GH units still don't have the correct version of cgminer and so do NOT work as yet.  Henri says he'll update them later.  :(




Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on November 03, 2016, 06:24:20 AM
The 1.6 GH are working now too. I am switching back to the 20GH.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on November 03, 2016, 08:13:45 AM
Yes I have switched to cgminer (Campaign #12) (for 20+GH/s ASICs) v0.07 (miner_asic) as it now works.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on November 03, 2016, 08:30:38 PM
I've started getting computation errors from the miners recently.  Early this morning I started getting quite a few. It's settled down a lot now but i'm still getting one or two here & there?

If it was just one rig i'd say it might be the miner but i'm now getting the odd one here & there accross all my miners across 5 different PC's.  ???

First time i've ever seen them on the miners? If it keeps up tomorrow i'll post at BU.  Anyone else getting getting any?



EDIT: I end up posting about the comp errors at BU.   
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on November 04, 2016, 12:11:58 AM
Quote from: JugNut on November 03, 2016, 08:30:38 PM
I've started getting computation errors from the miners recently.  Early this morning I started getting quite a few. It's settled down a lot now but i'm still getting one or two here & there?

If it was just one rig i'd say it might be the miner but i'm now getting the odd one here & there accross all my miners across 5 different PC's.  ???

First time i've ever seen them on the miners? If it keeps up tomorrow i'll post at BU.  Anyone else getting getting any?



EDIT: I end up posting about the comp errors at BU.    
I got 2 comp errors from ~200 wu's. Nothing to worry about but will keep an  :bloodshot on them.
:greet

EDIT: I looked and my 2 were on different machines. Both were Geckos. No errors on the ants.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on November 04, 2016, 05:54:04 AM
Guys what does Free DC support? What is it?
The link doesn't work on the BU website so I can't read about the project.
Thx
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on November 04, 2016, 06:10:01 AM
@Jugnut.   I haven't had an error since switching onto Campaign #12 after it was fixed.  All four Gecko's are running smoothly but hot.

@chooka03  Not sure what Free DC link you are looking at but Free DC is a a BOINC Team that also has a website for statistics. http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=teammilestones&team=BOINC@AUSTRALIA


EDIT:  I see the link under Campaigns just takes you back to BU.  Also I think that you need to register for the forum and log in and click the box that says keep logged in to see the correct stats on the Stats page.   ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on November 04, 2016, 10:40:38 AM
Quote from: Dingo on November 04, 2016, 06:10:01 AM
I see the link under Campaigns just takes you back to BU.
That is because it is on the other URL that Henri is going to shut down. He knows about it but did not say how/when he is going to fix it.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on November 05, 2016, 12:48:19 AM
I got two more comp errors but this time they were on the ants.  ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on November 05, 2016, 08:38:48 PM
No more comp errors today thankfully.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on November 06, 2016, 12:08:16 AM
Quote from: JugNut on November 05, 2016, 08:38:48 PM
No more comp errors today thankfully.  :thumbsup:
No more for me either  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on November 06, 2016, 01:49:49 PM
Quote from: Dingo on November 04, 2016, 06:10:01 AM

@chooka03  Not sure what Free DC link you are looking at but Free DC is a a BOINC Team that also has a website for statistics. http://stats.free-dc.org/stats.php?page=teammilestones&team=BOINC@AUSTRALIA


Thanks Dingo.
I was clicking on my Bitcoin Utopia in BOINC and going to Home Page and then selecting #7 hyperlink...which is broken.

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/

Another stat site eh..... hmm.....well its not science based but I am a fan of stats.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on November 08, 2016, 05:58:44 PM
Hey Jugnuts, did I miss something? You're pumping out 400Mil/day!  :shock
Is that just 2 Antminers and some Gecko's?

Told ya David Steel should be worried. You'll fly past him in no time. :bloodshot

:AUS:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on November 09, 2016, 05:25:54 AM
Hi chooka,
after 2 of my ants died I bought a second hand rockminer "new" which does 110GH. 
https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00NG10PMS/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=used (https://www.amazon.com/gp/offer-listing/B00NG10PMS/ref=dp_olp_used_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=used)
So now I have 3 x antminer U3's,  4 x Gekko's & 1 x rockminer.  The rockminer's can go a month or more most times without needing to be restarted and is quite reliable unlike the U3's.

LOL I've still got many months worth of work before David steel has anything to worry about.
Crunch-on  :crazy
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on December 24, 2016, 01:53:58 AM
I noticed this morning that the price of a Bitcoin more than doubled this year. Currently above $900 USD.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Daniel on December 29, 2016, 10:21:00 PM
I've started crunching for Bitcoin Utopia as well now.
I'm working on campaign #12. (It would be nice if they had more campaigns to choose from)
At the moment I only have a single Antminer U1, but I intend to get some more and better ASIC devices in the future.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on December 30, 2016, 01:13:39 PM
Quote from: Daniel on December 29, 2016, 10:21:00 PM
I've started crunching for Bitcoin Utopia as well now.
I'm working on campaign #12. (It would be nice if they had more campaigns to choose from)
At the moment I only have a single Antminer U1, but I intend to get some more and better ASIC devices in the future.
:greet
Welcome Daniel. Yes, I think we all would like more campaigns but Henri is an odd bird.  biggrin
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on December 30, 2016, 04:00:28 PM
I almost bought an Bitmain AntMiner S3+453Gh/s @ 0.78 J/Gh Digital miner today at Amazon.com but luckily I looked at the list and the project does not support it.  There were two, second hand, one for $49.99 and the other for $69.02 which is not bad as they are $450 new.

Keep my eye out for one that works, if you see any let me know... :rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on December 30, 2016, 10:30:45 PM
Welcome aboard Daniel :wavey2:  

Yea more variety is whats needed.  Still there is talk of changes coming but for now all we can do is just wait & see what happens.

@Dingo: Yea there are some good bargains to be had on the Antminer s1 - s7 range. It's a pity there of no use for us with boinc. The most powerful miner know to work at BU is the Avalon 6 at 3.5 TH but there at around +/-800 bucks.(more after the purchase of the needed 1000-1100 watt power supply + Raspberry Pi)
Because there still relatively new there are not many(if any) second hand units to be had at cheaper prices yet. But if your willing to pay the entry price you'd be an instant daily multi billionaire. Oh and don't forget that at somewhere around 900 watts to 1100 watts a day it would chew up almost as much power as two regular OC'd PC's with 2 mid range GPU's in each.(give or take a few watts) :(

EDIT: Found this one with a power supply at ebay for AU $733.45 + AU $228.77 delivery.  http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Avalon6-3-5-Th-s-A3218-28nm-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-w-1200w-HP-Power-Supply-Kit-/252434702174?hash=item3ac647df5e:g:1DUAAOSwv9hW6J2w (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Avalon6-3-5-Th-s-A3218-28nm-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-w-1200w-HP-Power-Supply-Kit-/252434702174?hash=item3ac647df5e:g:1DUAAOSwv9hW6J2w)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 03, 2017, 04:52:36 PM
I like helping BU but I'd never spend that sort if money for this hobby.... Especially with how erratic Henry is and the lack of projects.
I'm bidding on a Bitfury Red on EBay at the moment but I won't be paying more than $65 for it and I think I'm going to get outbid.
I'd rather a U3.
There's also a few U1s on EBay at the moment but again people are going to pay over $60 for one   :shock
Personally I think that's too much money. The USB ASIC miners are popular though. Someone is selling U2's on Gumtree for $40 each.  
I think I'd rather a second hand GPU for a second machine.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Daniel on January 03, 2017, 05:39:39 PM
Hi Chooka,

I've been watching those Antminer U1s on eBay as well.
I bid on them early on, but I've long since been outbid.
I payed $25 for the one I have now and I was hoping to get some more for around the same price.
As I type this, one of them has reached $70.50.
I wonder how much they cost when they were new ?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 03, 2017, 08:49:25 PM
Hi Dan,

Well as expected whoever l***a is, he wanted that hex fury more than me.
Hopefully it's no one here but I've done my best to make him pay top $$.
I'm not paying $70 for that!
The Y1's are a CRAZY price!! I picked up 2 recently for $20 but haven't had time to play with then. I should just sell them again for that stupid price!
Anyhoo.... Back to dinner with the wife.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 04, 2017, 01:42:29 AM
I bought a used RockMiner R-Box 2.0 like JN's but I will not get it for a couple of weeks (if at all). The seller is new and has no history on Amazon so I will just have to wait and see. At least with Amazon I will get a refund if it does not ship. I paid WAY too much for it but it seemed to be the last one for sale on the planet.  :jester:
Today I will briefly be in the top 100 in world position ( :dance: ) but will get passed tomorrow back to 101.
I got one of the machines fixed yesterday and prep'ed it for the R-Box. It had a corrupted BIOS but I removed the battery and rebooted it a couple of times and it successfully reloaded it. Then it took over a hour for Win10 updates ( :furious: ) Nice to have two more GTX970's running again. I hope it works for the R-Box as it has a 1000 W PSU but is running 2 GTX970's and an 8 thread processor.
The "monsoon" continues here with rain every day and forecasted for the next 10 days too. It does give me time to play with machines though.  biggrin
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 04, 2017, 01:13:44 PM
Hey DM good luck with your r-box. Have you got a spare PCI-E lead on that PC?  It needs a six pin PCI-E plug to power it, it's the same as GPU's use.  I've got mine sitting next to my PC with the side panel left off and then just run the PCI-E lead out the box from the Power supply.   

IF you were to ever get any more of them it might be best to just run them from a separate PC power supply. Buying a new power supply for just one seems a waste,  but if you get any more it may be the way to go.  They draw around 100 watt each.

@ Daniel & Chooka:  Yea the prices of those older USB sticks is ridiculous isn't it?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 04, 2017, 01:48:29 PM
Hi Jugnuts.
I think it was a BiFury that I bid on yesterday on EBay but I made someone pay $70 for it. (Bitfury red)
Was yours $33 $USD or AUD?
I hear Bitcoins is now over $1000 so maybe that sparked a bit of interest from noobs.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 04, 2017, 02:22:54 PM
Quote from: JugNut on January 04, 2017, 01:13:44 PM
Hey DM good luck with your r-box. Have you got a spare PCI-E lead on that PC?  It needs a six pin PCI-E plug to power it, it's the same as a GPU uses.  I've got mine sitting next to a PC with the side panel left off and then just use a PCI-E lead comming out from the Power supply.  Buying a new power supply for just one seems a waste,  but if you get any more might be the way to go.  They draw around 100 watt.  
Yep that's what I was doing. First I had to fix it. Then blew about a kg of dust out of it so I could find the PSU  biggrin then attached another PCI-E plug to the PSU and dangled it outside the case. I considered an Avalon 6 but that is a lot of money. I could find only one R-Box on Amazon. If you see any more of them let me know. I would like to decommission the Gecko's as they are a royal pain in the backside!  :rofl: My ants work fine and rarely need attention.
EDIT: BTW I found this post yesterday on how to jumper a PSU to run them with an external PSU. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820214
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 04, 2017, 02:51:22 PM
@ Chooka: Yea if I remember correctly my Bifury was about AU $35 with delivery. The little bugga has been as reliable as a rock too, unlike some little green Gekko's that I can think of.

Yea Bitcoins may be a lot dearer now but there also twice as hard to come by as well.

@ DM:
Quote from: Dataman on January 04, 2017, 02:22:54 PM
I would like to decommission the Gecko's as they are a royal pain in the backside!  :rofl: My ants work fine and rarely need attention.

Amen to that brother...

Yea at this stage the Avalon 6 is way out of my league too maybe when they come up second hand perhaps?

PS: LOL I'm going to have to start editing my posts I little quicker in the future me thinks,  you quoted me mid edit again & quoted the old version instead of the new.(even though there's not much difference between the two:)) Oh well what ya gonna do?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 04, 2017, 03:14:04 PM
Yea that link is the cheapest way to get your PSU jump started.  Or you can buy theses for next to nothing on Ebay & Amazon or even better one with a switch down the page a bit.
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=PSU+Jumper (https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_2?url=search-alias%3Dcomputers&field-keywords=PSU+Jumper)

Or you can go the rolls royce route & get one of theses. http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301264637169?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT (http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/301264637169?_trksid=p2060353.m2749.l2649&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT) There cheaper on amazon though.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 04, 2017, 04:07:04 PM
Well we all know of my Gekko issues... Only 2/5 survived a couple of months. They are still trucking on.
I did try plugging a U1 into my powered hub the other day but found that when the U1 got stuck, it caused the Gekkos to stop also  ???
Unplug the U1 and the Gekkos started again. Strange.
Honest, I'd be tempted to sell the U1's if some fools going to pay over $60 for one.
I bought it for $20.

Clouds have finally cleared here on the Gold Coast. Enjoying a couple of days with the wife and no 3yr old. :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 06, 2017, 12:57:10 AM
Swan Dive!
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets-bitcoin-idUSKBN14P1ID?il=0
http://www.coindesk.com/price/
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 06, 2017, 05:39:55 AM
Still wouldn't mind a few hundred  biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 07, 2017, 01:51:24 AM
BU has started a campaign for SETI  :thumbsup:
Bitcoins have fallen another 12%  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 07, 2017, 09:18:56 AM
That's great news!  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 08, 2017, 04:01:44 AM
 :dance2:
My R-Box has shipped and I should get it on the 10th.
@ JN: Some questions if you don't mind:
1. Did you use the zadig driver?
2. What are your run times?
3. Any tips?
Thanks!
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 08, 2017, 06:34:38 AM
Quote from: Dataman on January 08, 2017, 04:01:44 AM
:dance2:
My R-Box has shipped and I should get it on the 10th.
@ JN: Some questions if you don't mind:
1.  Did you use the zadig driver?
2.  What are your run times?
3.  Any tips?
Thanks!
:greet

Sweet!!  I hope she's a good clean pick.

1  Yep sure did,  if you already have them installed on that box you probably wont need to again. But check just to make sure ;)
2  for 20GH #12's between about 12 - 14 mins.  I't s a tad slower now as it needs a good dusting out.
3  When plugging in or unplugging the 6 pin PCI-E lead make sure it's done in one clean action so there's as little sparking as possible.
Also when the hash rate go's from around 110GH down to under to say 107 - to 105GH then then it most probably just needs opening up & dusting, as that's what mine needs ASAP. If I think of anything else i'll let you know.

4. Have fun :)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 08, 2017, 08:49:30 AM
Quote from: JugNut on January 08, 2017, 06:34:38 AM
Quote from: Dataman on January 08, 2017, 04:01:44 AM
:dance2:
My R-Box has shipped and I should get it on the 10th.
@ JN: Some questions if you don't mind:
1.  Did you use the zadig driver?
2.  What are your run times?
3.  Any tips?
Thanks!
:greet

Sweet!!  I hope she's a good clean pick.

1  Yep sure did,  if you already have them installed on that box you probably wont need to again. But check just to make sure ;)
2  for 20GH #12's between about 12 - 14 mins.  I't s a tad slower now as it needs a good dusting out.
3  When plugging in or unplugging the 6 pin PCI-E lead make sure it's done in one clean action so there's as little sparking as possible.
Also when the hash rate go's from around 110GH down to under to say 107 - to 105GH then then it most probably just needs opening up & dusting, as that's what mine needs ASAP. If I think of anything else i'll let you know.

4. Have fun :)
Thanks, I will power it down and shut off the PSU before plugging it in. The PC has not run BU before (it was dead a fair while) so I will have to install the driver. I hope it is a good one. I bid on an ant U3 but did not get it; it sold for a ridiculous price way over my bid. Still looking for another R-Box but there are none to be had.
:cheers:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 08, 2017, 10:35:22 AM
There is a new "Bitmain AntMiner U3 Bitcoin Miner Version 2" on amazon for $200 US at https://www.amazon.com/Bitmain-AntMiner-Bitcoin-Miner-Version/dp/B00TWK9208/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1483832023&sr=8-15&keywords=bitcoin+miner (https://www.amazon.com/Bitmain-AntMiner-Bitcoin-Miner-Version/dp/B00TWK9208/ref=sr_1_15?ie=UTF8&qid=1483832023&sr=8-15&keywords=bitcoin+miner)

I can't afford that much..
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 08, 2017, 01:33:08 PM
Quote from: Dingo on January 08, 2017, 10:35:22 AM
I can't afford that much..
It is not worth that much and the seller has no history and no other items for sale.  :thumbdown:  I only paid $85 + $15 shipping USD for the r-box and I thought that was too much.  biggrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 08, 2017, 07:58:07 PM
I saw that $200 (USD mind you) for the U3 on Amazon.
Crazy :crazy

The USB ASICS are a hot item imo after watching the silly prices on Ebay for the U1's. Might be able to profit from Bitcoin just by owning the hardware!
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 09, 2017, 01:32:19 AM
WOW
I have to thank Dingo for this one. After checking out the U3 he posted, I when over to eBay and found two r-boxes that were listed only 9 min before. If I had not read the post I would not have gone to eBay! I hit "Buy It Now" and bought them for $200. W00T! If all three work, I will decom. the Gecko's and make my life easier.  biggrin I will have to put them on a stand-alone PSU but that should not be a problem.
Still raining here. 3cm forecasted for today after 1 cm yesterday.  :shock
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 09, 2017, 05:02:53 AM
Nice pick up Dataman :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 10, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Here's more if your interested!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Rockminer-R-Boxs-450gh-s-Each-Power-Supply-Raspberry-Pi-And-Cables-Included-/262797228271?hash=item3d2fef78ef:g:TzYAAOSwOdpXxOEb

$110 for 2 with Pi, PSU and cables.

If you didn't live so far away Dataman, I'd take the gamble and buy the Geckos from you if you weren't going to use them....but you'd probably get more for them on Ebay :)
Can't believe how cheap some of this stuff is in the U.S. I never bothered to look at the U.S Ebay.

I'll be sticking to USB ASICS  This looks good!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-ASIC-Bitcoin-miner-60GHS-used-with-power-supply/182398850251?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40839%26meid%3D88eaf770ff0f4c3b8c4a670c05fc6400%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D122303361177

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 10, 2017, 09:58:55 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on January 10, 2017, 08:26:11 PM
Here's more if your interested!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Rockminer-R-Boxs-450gh-s-Each-Power-Supply-Raspberry-Pi-And-Cables-Included-/262797228271?hash=item3d2fef78ef:g:TzYAAOSwOdpXxOEb

$110 for 2 with Pi, PSU and cables.

If you didn't live so far away Dataman, I'd take the gamble and buy the Geckos from you if you weren't going to use them....but you'd probably get more for them on Ebay :)
Can't believe how cheap some of this stuff is in the U.S. I never bothered to look at the U.S Ebay.

I'll be sticking to USB ASICS  This looks good!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Butterfly-Labs-ASIC-Bitcoin-miner-60GHS-used-with-power-supply/182398850251?_trksid=p2047675.c100009.m1982&_trkparms=aid%3D888007%26algo%3DDISC.MBE%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D40839%26meid%3D88eaf770ff0f4c3b8c4a670c05fc6400%26pid%3D100009%26rk%3D1%26rkt%3D2%26sd%3D122303361177


I bought one of these:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rockminer-R4-500-Gh-s-/122303361177?hash=item1c79d93099:g:WlMAAOSwt5hYcmH3
He still has over 10 of them left. The miners keep getting cheaper but PSU's have greatly increased. About 6 months ago I bought an EVGA 1,000 W Platinum for $118. I just had to buy 2 more for the miners at $185.50 EACH.  :furious: plus I had to get 8 mini-USB cables (gold) for $13.95 each (10 ft.).   :shock
I am done buying now. When I get finished in a couple of weeks I will have (I hope):
1x Rockminer R4 (500 G/H)
4x Rockminer R-Box 2 (110 G/H)
2x Antminer U3 (48 G/H)
I will probably give the Gecko's away to some of you blokes but I have to check some things out first. The USA has some strange laws about shipping some electronics out of the county and OZ has some strange ones about importing them. I don't care about the money but there are limits to the hoops I will jump though with the USPS.  biggrin I would like to see more at B@A running BU. I want us to get back in the top 10 world wide again.  :oz:
:AUS: :USA1

EDIT: Shhhhhh, don't tell Karen about this.  :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 11, 2017, 05:59:57 AM
Wow...so cheap! Well compared to what I/we paid for a Gecko relative to output.  :shock

Don't worry..... I won't tell Karen  biggrin Boy are you going to be pumping out some BU number.......and your house will be all nice and cozy with all that heat Dataman  :jester:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 12, 2017, 05:56:13 AM
What's with campaign #5 only having 20GH/s tasks??
Sometimes I'm successful at completing them with a Gecko/U1, other times 12hrs later it's still ticking over so I start again :( 7400 second for these tasks.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 12, 2017, 06:33:16 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on January 12, 2017, 05:56:13 AM
What's with campaign #5 only having 20GH/s tasks??
Sometimes I'm successful at completing them with a Gecko/U1, other times 12hrs later it's still ticking over so I start again :( 7400 second for these tasks.
I don't know. Henri takes his own sweet time. Maybe later.  ???
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 12, 2017, 06:44:53 AM
I received 2 r-box 110 G/H and installed them. One is working; the other is not. One has a red power light and a blinking blue status light. The other has a red power light and no status light. I am assuming no status light is NOT a good thing but my search in the forums for what the status light should be has not found anything. Whichever one is working is running 20 G/H in 18-20 min. I checked the drivers, cc_config and device manager and everything is OK for both of them.
@JN: What does your status light do?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 12, 2017, 08:07:58 AM
Eureka!!! I found the problem. I config'ed this array for 4 r-boxes and ran the 4 USB cables into an old Belkin 4-port hub (not powered). Either the hub is bad or they don't like hubs because when I gave each cable its own USB port, both started working.  :yahoo: It looks like one miner has a burned out status light. I consider that as a benefit as the last thing we need around here is another friggin', blinkin' light!!!  :rofl: The down side is that when both are running the run times increased to 30 min. How can I tell what the hash rate of a device is?
I should get 2 more r-boxes tomorrow. The R4 has not shipped yet and I don't know when I will get it.

:dance2:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 12, 2017, 04:07:30 PM
You will be crunching up a storm.  Do you need a separate Power Supply for the r-boxes ??

I am thinking of getting one what do I need to have to get them to run.  I know I need the four usb to r-box cables but what else?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 12, 2017, 04:09:25 PM
QuoteI consider that as a benefit as the last thing we need around here is another friggin', blinkin' light!!!  ROFL
LOL DM! :rofl:

Yeah I found that if a U1 stopped working in my hub, the Gecko's stopped also. I've now plugged my U1's into USB ports on my PC. They actually need hotplugging more than the Geckos  :thumbdown: Meh.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 13, 2017, 01:11:48 AM
Quote from: Dingo on January 12, 2017, 04:07:30 PM
You will be crunching up a storm.  Do you need a separate Power Supply for the r-boxes ??

I am thinking of getting one what do I need to have to get them to run.  I know I need the four usb to r-box cables but what else?

You don't need a separate PSU if you have a spare PCI-E cable in the PC for the r-box. It is however a lot easier to use a stand-alone PSU, with a bridge on the MoBo plug. You only need one mini-USB cable to your PC for each r-box (110 G/H - 100 W).
R-Box: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=820214

The R4 (500 G/H - 600 Watt) needs 4 PCI-E power cables, 4 mini-USB cables or 4 USB-MCU cables, a PSU > 600W, 4-port USB hub, 1 bridge for the MoBo plug.
R4: http://www.eyeboot.com/how-to-setup-rockminer-r3-r4-bitcoin-miner-using-cgminer.html
Good Luck!

EDIT: On those links, you can skip the cgminer setup. You just need to power/attach them, load the zadig driver, change cc_config to show how many miners are on the PC and BOINC will do the rest. Had my best day ever and the best is still to come. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 13, 2017, 05:51:52 AM
Well I've decided to stop crunching Seti becuase the Geckos/U1 just can't handle 20GHs WU's very well.
This morning I've woken to find that none of the miners are stuck but 2 of my WU's are ticking over 15hrs.....so obviously they're not going to complete :( Just have to snooze BOINC to reset all the WU's.

Bit of a bummer as I'd rather crunch #5 over #12. Oh well.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 13, 2017, 06:00:52 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on January 13, 2017, 05:51:52 AM
Well I've decided to stop crunching Seti becuase the Geckos/U1 just can't handle 20GHs WU's very well.
This morning I've woken to find that none of the miners are stuck but 2 of my WU's are ticking over 15hrs.....so obviously they're not going to complete :( Just have to snooze BOINC to reset all the WU's.

Bit of a bummer as I'd rather crunch #5 over #12. Oh well.

My Geckos rarely stop unless the PC stops running for some reason, or I see that the blue light is not flashing, or a work unit is over 2 hours.  Then if there is one or two that are not running I just unplug the Gecko from the powered hub and re insert and abort the work unit.  It usually starts up right away with the blue light flashing.  I do not stop BOINC because that stops all four of the Geckos and they restart at zero.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 13, 2017, 02:14:00 PM
G'day Dingo,
Nice to put a face to the name by the way  :thumbsup:

I hear what you're saying. I've just arrived home from work and again 2WU's have been ticking away for 8hrs 22Min......... none of the lights are stuck on my ASIC miners though. I have a feeling its the U1's that struggle with the WU's, not the Gecko's.
I could test that theory can't can't be bothered at the moment. I'll just discontinue campaign #5 till we get some 1.6GH/s WU's (apparently they are coming soon according to rebirther)

:smilefriday
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 13, 2017, 02:20:06 PM
Actually, if I've done the maths right, crunching the 20GH/s tasks is going to be a lot worse for me in terms of credits.

225 sec on average for 30,000 credits with a 1.6GH/s task.
7000 sec on average for 1,200,000 credits with the 20GH/s tasks.

225 x 4 = 900. So that's 900 sec on 1.6 WU's to get 1.3Mil credits.

Did I get that right?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 13, 2017, 05:02:04 PM
I think there is a big difference and doing the  20+GH/s  gives better credit I think.  These are two of your tasks

run time / 3600 = time in hours        credit for wu / time in hours = credit per hour

  TASK     RUN TIME   credit for wu    credits per hour  

158055504    7,663.10    1,200,000.00    563,740.5227649385          20+GH/s  task        
158070831    2,122.41     30,000.00         50,885.54991731098           1.6+GH/s task.  

EDIT: Added a quich 1.6 GH task

158072470     171.46       30000.00         629,884.5211711186

So if all the 1.6 GH tasks ran in this short time you would be better off.  Looking at the tasks that have returned they are all over the place some in the 100's and others in the 1000's but if you round them all up I guess they will be about the same ????
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 14, 2017, 08:03:52 AM
Hmmm..... that 2000 sec though isn't an average time for a 1.6GH/s WU though. I think they are closer to 250 sec. (websites down at the moment)
Also again....2 stuck WU's overnight. It seems to happen ALOT which has got to affect the amount of work done.

Having said that, the graph for average work done in BOINC is steadily increasing.

Thanks for crunching those numbers Dingo  :thumbsup:

:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 14, 2017, 08:40:31 AM
Yep Dingo's right there chooka.  To put it another way...

If you divide 30, 000cr into 1,200,000cr .. you get 40.  So the 20GH tasks pay 40 times more than the 1.6GH tasks.  Meaning you'd have to do 40x 1.6GH tasks to equal just 1x 20GH task.

But when you divide 225sec's into 7000sec's you get close enough to 31.  So in 7000sec's you can only do 31x 1.6GH tasks not 40.

End result every time you do 1x 20GH task you basically get 9x 1.6GH tasks worth of credit for free.

Err I hope that made sense. :(


EDIT: LOL  Of coarse if they keep stopping all the time and wasting precious time then all of what I said above is meaningless,  so then my friend as you've already figured out you just gotta do what works ;)

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 14, 2017, 09:08:58 AM
Quote from: Dataman on January 12, 2017, 08:07:58 AM
Eureka!!! I found the problem. I config'ed this array for 4 r-boxes and ran the 4 USB cables into an old Belkin 4-port hub (not powered). Either the hub is bad or they don't like hubs because when I gave each cable its own USB port, both started working.  :yahoo: It looks like one miner has a burned out status light. I consider that as a benefit as the last thing we need around here is another friggin', blinkin' light!!!  :rofl: The down side is that when both are running the run times increased to 30 min. How can I tell what the hash rate of a device is?
I should get 2 more r-boxes tomorrow. The R4 has not shipped yet and I don't know when I will get it.

:dance2:

Way to go buddy you did well today and gave me a little spanking too..   Mmm and there's still more gear to come? Rocket ship Dataman about to leave orbit LOL  :worship   
On the serious side be careful that your fuses can handle the extra load.

You can find the hash rate by looking in stderr.txt file the slot directory.  Just click on the task you want to check in boinc manager then click on the properties button. The slot directory is listed on the forth line from the bottom of the box that opens.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 14, 2017, 01:46:39 PM
Quote from: JugNut on January 14, 2017, 09:08:58 AM
Quote from: Dataman on January 12, 2017, 08:07:58 AM
Eureka!!! I found the problem. I config'ed this array for 4 r-boxes and ran the 4 USB cables into an old Belkin 4-port hub (not powered). Either the hub is bad or they don't like hubs because when I gave each cable its own USB port, both started working.  :yahoo: It looks like one miner has a burned out status light. I consider that as a benefit as the last thing we need around here is another friggin', blinkin' light!!!  :rofl: The down side is that when both are running the run times increased to 30 min. How can I tell what the hash rate of a device is?
I should get 2 more r-boxes tomorrow. The R4 has not shipped yet and I don't know when I will get it.

:dance2:

Way to go buddy you did well today and gave me a little spanking too..   Mmm and there's still more gear to come? Rocket ship Dataman about to leave orbit LOL  :worship   
On the serious side be careful that your fuses can handle the extra load.

You can find the hash rate by looking in stderr.txt file the slot directory.  Just click on the task you want to check in boinc manager then click on the properties button. The slot directory is listed on the forth line from the bottom of the box that opens.

Thanks JN! I looked at one and it shows: Directory: slots/6     ??? Don't know what that means.
Yep, I have two more r-boxes that are "vacationing" in Salt Lake City due to heavy snow and 0 visibility over the Sierra's. Been there for two days now. Also have a Rockminer R4 that has not yet shipped.
I am not happy with the performance of the 2 r-boxes. The two ant U3's are outperforming them. The only difference between the two PC's is the rocks are on 2.67 GHz processor and the ants are on a 3.33 GHz machine. Otherwise they are identical.  ???
I have the farm spread over 3 circuits so no problem there. The rocks are not producing much heat and they are more quiet than I thought they would be.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on January 14, 2017, 02:21:11 PM
Good to hear of your upgrade adventures. :thumbsup:

Directory: slots/6 is found in C:\ProgramData\BOINC\slots 
Record overnight temps here, send snow please. :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 14, 2017, 04:49:57 PM
@Dataman: Sorry for the late reply I just had family arrive.  Yep as kashi said it's in the boinc/slots folder, just open the file called stderr.txt in notepad. 

Also my R-Box does 110GH which credits about 115 - 130 million a day so it give almost twice the credit as the U3's do.  I find it best to only use one type of miner per box as some of them don't seem to play well together. Are the R-boxes on a box by themselves?(no other U3's ect)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 15, 2017, 01:37:13 AM
Thanks kashi and JN. I will look at it sometime today. Busy schedule today.
The two r-boxes are by themselves on one machine and not crunching CPU or GPU. ??? Same with the U3's. The r-box run times are all over the place from 18 min to 55 min. The U3's are consistent at ~28 min.
My turn to make breakfast today. Oatmeal anyone? Gotta run ...

EDIT: Found it. Do not know what most of it means but am thinking "(avg.) 0.000 h/s" is not good! Also lots of lines "Failed to get *filename* device in use" and "no device detected" are not good either. Having said that, both are completing wu's eventually. Will take a deeper look when we get back today. I need to complete the build and restack before starting to debug them. At least they are doing something. Cheers!

EDIT2: I still cannot determine a hash rate. All of the numbers in both files are 0.000 h/s. What am I supposed to be looking for? One is stable and doing wu's in 18-19 min. The other one is all over the place from 19 to 59 min. I don't know which is which. Next week I will take one down and just run them one at a time to find the unstable one. Until then something is better than nothing. My other two are still stuck in Salt Lake City. The R4 still has not shipped.
:cry
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 15, 2017, 05:23:48 PM
Which of your PC's has the R-Boxes attached them? Can tell me what the computer ID# is from this list of your computers?  http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/hosts_user.php?sort=expavg_credit&rev=0&show_all=0&userid=7236 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/hosts_user.php?sort=expavg_credit&rev=0&show_all=0&userid=7236) 

I'm guessing it's the PC with ID: 14115 (with the i7 920)  If I click on tasks then pick the first task I see it shows this..  http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=158371377 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=158371377) 
This is what the stderr.txt file in the slot directory should look like as well.(or very similar)
As you see your task started at 83.77Gh/s at the top and finished at 78.04Gh/s at the bottom. In the "Summary of runtime statistics:" Section it shows the Average hashrate: 78015.4 Mhash/s (78.015GH)

This is one of mine http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=158337006  It starts at 94.44Gh/s and ends at 101.5Gh/s.  The Average is 101378.6 Mhash/s.(101.378GH) When I first got it, it was 108-110GH(it still needs a dust out) 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 15, 2017, 08:51:48 PM
Good to see 1.6GH/s WU's now available for campaign #5.
I really was having to abort too many WU's with the 20GH/s WU's :(
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 16, 2017, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: JugNut on January 15, 2017, 05:23:48 PM
Which of your PC's has the R-Boxes attached them? Can tell me what the computer ID# is from this list of your computers?  http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/hosts_user.php?sort=expavg_credit&rev=0&show_all=0&userid=7236 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/hosts_user.php?sort=expavg_credit&rev=0&show_all=0&userid=7236)  

I'm guessing it's the PC with ID: 14115 (with the i7 920)  If I click on tasks then pick the first task I see it shows this..  http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=158371377 (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=158371377)  
This is what the stderr.txt file in the slot directory should look like as well.(or very similar)
As you see your task started at 83.77Gh/s at the top and finished at 78.04Gh/s at the bottom. In the "Summary of runtime statistics:" Section it shows the Average hashrate: 78015.4 Mhash/s (78.015GH)

This is one of mine http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/result.php?resultid=158337006  It starts at 94.44Gh/s and ends at 101.5Gh/s.  The Average is 101378.6 Mhash/s.(101.378GH) When I first got it, it was 108-110GH(it still needs a dust out)  
DM08 has the 2 r-boxes (for now). Will move them to DM02 when I get the other 2.
Thanks, I will check it out later. One box is working OK but the other one had been sleeping for 2 hours when I got up. Hot plugged it and it immediately finished. The other two finally made it over the mountains and I should get them Monday. By then I should know which one of the existing ones is good and which is bad. Depends what Karen has planned for us today. Thanks for looking into it mate.
EDIT:OK, I understand now. Thanks for the help. The one thing that still confuses me is am looking at wu's that ran in 17 min that have an average rate of 80 Gh/s and others that ran in 1 hour and 20 min with a hash rate of 80 Gh/s. So the time it is not doing anything is not averaged in? But this helps as it looks like the 2 are doing about 80 Gh/s not 110 Gh/'s. But it is used equipment. I'll take what I can get.
EDIT2: Rather dismal for one r-box. Starts as low as 4 Gh/s; runs most of the time at 15 Gh/s but finishes with an overall Average of 79 Gh/s ??? The math make no sense to me.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 16, 2017, 05:39:09 PM
Check this out guys!!

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/AntMiner-Bitmain-U1-USB-1-6GH-s-Bitcoin-Miner-X3-BUNDLE-/182412327711?_trksid=p2047675.l2557&ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&nma=true&si=J8PlJZOdOQObm5WzCewk82BVyRc%253D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc

3 x U1 antminers sold for $268.00!!  :shock + postage.
I think I should sell my 2 x U1's which I bought for $20 a few weeks back. The credits I'm gaining from them is minuscule really.

Edit - I think I'll wait and see actually. The 2 bidders who ran that price up have very low feedback and may have been a bit sus.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 16, 2017, 06:44:41 PM
Here's a U3 for sale on ebay if you want to buy out of Croatia. 5 available.
Seller has no feedback though........ Think I'll pass.
I noticed he also has an eBay ad to "rent 5 x Antminer U3's. When I asked him about it he said he has 5 for sale and 5 to rent..... all sounds a bit sus for my liking.

Maybe we should start a secondhand Bitcoin miner thread?  :crazy

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Bitcoin-Antiminer-U3-63-Gh-s-/152397061790?hash=item237b929e9e:g:eHAAAOSw5cNYe0rD#shpCntId
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 17, 2017, 03:35:49 AM
The price of stick miners is crazy.

I physically id'ed which of the two r-boxes is bad (the one with no status light). Some stats:
Bad r-box
Summary of runtime statistics:
                   
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Started at [2017-01-16 04:05:27]                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Runtime: 1 hrs : 58 mins : 48 secs                  
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Average hashrate: 12977.5 Mhash/s                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Solved blocks: 0                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Best share difficulty: 28.5K                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Share submissions: 530                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Accepted shares: 529                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Rejected shares: 1                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Accepted difficulty shares: 20515                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Rejected difficulty shares: 8                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Reject ratio: 0.2%                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Hardware errors: 3695                    
[2017-01-16 06:04:16] Utility (accepted shares / min): 4.45/min

Good U3
Summary of runtime statistics:
                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Started at [2017-01-16 07:21:59]                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Runtime: 0 hrs : 23 mins : 38 secs                    
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Average hashrate: 56267.4 Mhash/s                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Solved blocks: 0                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Best share difficulty: 3.13K                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Share submissions: 453                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Accepted shares: 453                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Rejected shares: 0                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Accepted difficulty shares: 20488                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Rejected difficulty shares: 0                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Reject ratio: 0.0%                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Hardware errors: 0                    
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Utility (accepted shares / min): 19.17/min                   
[2017-01-16 07:45:38] Work Utility (diff1 shares solved / min): 785.97/min

Oh well, just the risk of used equipment. The other two stopped moving and I will not get them today. Winter sucks! :thumbdown: Got an email from the seller that my R4 ships today.  :thumbsup: UPS from New York City so will take a couple of days (or longer).
Seven more days of rain starting Wed. I am sick of it!!!
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 17, 2017, 05:49:05 AM
Hi Dataman,

We have the opposite over here in the east of Australia...... absolute sweat box here in Queensland last week & this week.  :thumbdown:
I'm just watching the grass grow at a record pace but it's too dam hot to mow it.  :bloodshot

Power bill is going to be HUGE...hence no GPU crunching for a while.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 18, 2017, 07:48:54 AM
In case anyone's interested, there's a guy selling 5 U3's on eBay in the U.S.A. (Now 3 remaining) USD $70.
I've been in contact with him about possibly buying one but I just can't justify the conversion/freight charges. Looking at multiple options, they all come out with a total cost of close to AUD $200.00....It's just too much for a U3  :thumbdown:

Direct freight is nearly USD $100.00. Via Shopmate it's not much better. Throw in the lousy exchange rate via PayPal.... :(

Anyhow, I know how much people like the U3's so thought I'd mention it. Someone here might have deeper pockets than me and the seller was very accommodation to all my questions.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 18, 2017, 04:40:02 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on January 18, 2017, 07:48:54 AM
In case anyone's interested, there's a guy selling 5 U3's on eBay in the U.S.A. (Now 3 remaining) USD $70.
I've been in contact with him about possibly buying one but I just can't justify the conversion/freight charges. Looking at multiple options, they all come out with a total cost of close to AUD $200.00....It's just too much for a U3  :thumbdown:

Direct freight is nearly USD $100.00. Via Shopmate it's not much better. Throw in the lousy exchange rate via PayPal.... :(

Anyhow, I know how much people like the U3's so thought I'd mention it. Someone here might have deeper pockets than me and the seller was very accommodation to all my questions.

  :yes Thanks chooka I bought two of them.  It was just over $240 Canadian for the two including freight.  I can't really afford it but I still have the bug for BOINC and when I see others crunching up big numbers I need to try and compete, well try anyway.   :fingers for delivery this Friday here in Arizona which is Saturday over there on the other side of the pond.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 18, 2017, 07:53:44 PM
Awesome Dingo!
I've actually bought one from Europe!

The freight was HEAPS cheaper. Plus Paypal had a $20.00 discount code.

Why did I think you lived in Australia Dingo?? (I'm sure you've mentioned it before.)
Should start getting close to 1Bil credits a day with all the extra gear we are buying LOL.

Crunch on ppl.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 19, 2017, 01:47:39 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on January 18, 2017, 07:48:54 AM
In case anyone's interested, there's a guy selling 5 U3's on eBay in the U.S.A. (Now 3 remaining) USD $70.
Hahaha and I'm the dude that bought the first two. Will give me 4 of them. Apparently the USPS has lost the two r-boxes. The R4 has still not shipped despite the seller promising to do so. Looks like I will be filing some claims with eBay.  :thumbdown:
Rain, rain and more rain for next 7 days.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 19, 2017, 03:11:22 AM
BTW, I looked into shipping my Gecko's to OZ. Bottom line is it is not going to happen. There are a lot of restrictions on "Application Specific Computer Hardware" and a whole bunch of customs forms. Also the very cheapest I could do is $121.00 USD to Sydney. Move out from Sydney and it gets even more expensive. Cheaper to send them to the moon via NASA.  :jester:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 19, 2017, 06:03:58 AM
LOL Dataman.
So The seller has sold nearly all his U3's to us here on Boinc Australia!.. That's GOLD  :rofl:

Thanks for looking into the Gecko shipments.... that's very kind of you to consider that. That pricing is ridiculous though  :shock..... seriously.
I was told about USD$100.00 for the U3 with all the cables and power packs etc. In the end I've gone through Europe where the shipping cost has been AUD $33.00 for the same equipment.

Also asked someone at work about duties etc and there's no duty to pay on good coming into Aus if the value is less than $2000 AUD. The reason I asked is becuase the seller in Europe asked if I needed any documentation. Our import/export woman said no.
Mind you.... I didn't tell her exactly what it was I was buying.

Also the shipping of miner from Holy Bitcoin in the US was no way NEAR $100...... can't remember how much it was maybe $20 via USPS.

If you guys want more U3's... I tok the risk and bought from this seller in Europe.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/152397061790?ul_noapp=true

He has 2 left and has actually been VERY helpful. Sent me the tracking details today! I wouldn't have bought it if it weren't for PayPal's protection AND they now have a 20% discount code for this item.
Maybe BOINC AUSTRALIA can soak up the worlds supply of U3's!  :rofl:

:wave:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 19, 2017, 07:08:04 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on January 19, 2017, 06:03:58 AM
Thanks for looking into the Gecko shipments.... that's very kind of you to consider that. That pricing is ridiculous though  :shock..... seriously.
I have not given up yet. I am nothing if not persistent ...

@ Dingo: I did not know you were in AZ; thought you were still in Canada. If you like I could mail them to you and you could carry them back to OZ when you return for the Winter (if you are going back). You could just declare them as fancy swizzle sticks or something.  :jester: (What happened to the "big grin" smiley?) You could give them out to teammates who are interested. No worries if that is too much hassle. Just an idea. It will be at least two weeks before I retire them. I have a dozen of them and they are still providing 1/2 my credits until I get the 3 new arrays built.
:niceday
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 19, 2017, 11:36:29 AM
@ Dataman    Yes I am spending the winter here in Arizona so not going to Australia till maybe next October if then.  It costs too much to go to Australia every year and the kids get sick of me after a while and the cost of living there is over the moon and I am on a fixed income.  I added a  :BigGrin I must have deleted the other one by mistake.  Smileys all seem to be getting bigger and bigger.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 19, 2017, 12:31:28 PM
Quote from: Dingo on January 19, 2017, 11:36:29 AM
@ Dataman    Yes I am spending the winter here in Arizona so not going to Australia till maybe next October if then.  It costs too much to go to Australia every year and the kids get sick of me after a while and the cost of living there is over the moon and I am on a fixed income.  I added a  :BigGrin I must have deleted the other one by mistake.  Smileys all seem to be getting bigger and bigger.
No worries it was just an idea.
The two vacationing r-boxes finally arrived and I just installed them. All 4 are working but the more of them I add to the array the slower all 4 go. The run times so far are less than impressive.  :thumbdown: I should have better stats after they run all night. Maybe they have to warm to our "liquid" CA sunshine.  :rofl: That completes the DM08 array.
The two U3's have already shipped (UPS) and may get here Friday. Those 4 will complete the DM04 array.
The R4 still has not shipped and am getting annoyed with the seller. It is always going to ship "tomorrow". That will be the only miner on DM02. (if I get it).
After all that is done, I am going to try to put 13 Gecko's on DM06. I doubt that it will work as it will probably consume all of the CPU but you never know 'till you try.  :wink
The tracking for the r-boxes that just arrived shows it was sent back to New York City and delivered.  ??? The USPS could not find its butt if it were squatting over a mirror.  :rofl: :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 19, 2017, 07:32:47 PM
Dataman..... I'd love to see a picture of this setup once done.
I'm picturing a room/stdy with cables and stuff EVERYWHERE! lol. Sure will be a nice, warm & cozy house you'll have there  :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 19, 2017, 11:48:23 PM
Quote
I'm picturing a room/stdy with cables and stuff EVERYWauthorHERE! lol. Sure will be a nice, warm & cozy house you'll have there  :rofl:
OK. Actually, the setups are very neat and cables are tied and hidden for the most part. They are in 3 rooms to keep down the heat/noise and spread the electrical load. The r-boxes produce almost no heat and the air out the back is cooler than skin temperature. They also produce LOUSY results with run times from 900 sec to 12,000 sec. I am very disappointed but will check every thing out once again today.
The R4 shipped last night. It is my last hope or I have wasted a lot of money.
It continues to rain ...
:cry


EDIT: After a totally demoralizing morning staring at stderr's and rechecking everything, I can find nothing wrong. I'm done. I am going to surprise Karen and take her to brunch at the Cliff House. There we can sit in luxury and watch it rain on the American River rather than sit here and watch it rain on our leafless Oak trees.  :rofl: Later folks ...
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 20, 2017, 07:51:03 AM
Yes my U3's will arrive Mon 1/23/2017 by end of day according to Fedex.   I always manage to make a mess of wires and stuff behind the terminal.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 21, 2017, 11:02:42 AM
Oh, what a day it has been and very little of it good. Where to begin:
1. During breakfast this morning one of the r-boxes fried. There was a pop and a lot of smoke. I jumped up and shut down the PSU but it got so hot it melted the USB connector off the circuit board and some of the solder had run on the board. Fortunately it and the other three were in a rack and nothing caught fire. I salvaged the fans and tossed the rest.  :thumbdown:

@JN: If yours is sitting on the floor I would strongly suggest you put it on something non-flammable and not conductive.

2. I hooked up the R4. It came already cabled and with a 750W Dell PSU (that was not in the description). It sounds like a 747 at full throttle!!! There is no way I can run it inside the house!! Win10 detects it as an unknown USB device. When Windows queries it, it does not respond and then Win10 disables it. When I try to load the zadig driver the installation fails. When I try to load WINUSB manually, Win10 keeps disabling it. I will try again tomorrow but the prognosis is not good. If I cannot get it to run I will file a claim and get a refund.  :thumbdown:

3. I moved the poor performing r-box to a separate machine but it still has run times all over the place (but at least it works).  :thumbdown: The other two are doing well with run times in the 13-17 min. range.  :thumbsup:

4. I successfully got 13 Geckos to run on one machine with no performance problems (not yet at least).  :thumbsup:

5. The two U3's arrive Monday. I hope my luck changes.  :pcwhack:

I told Karen I needed many hugs and much sympathy. She complied and then told me not to turn on that noisy "thing" again. :rofl:

Yep, it has been quite a day.

:banghead

EDIT:
"Gloom, despair, and agony on me
Deep, dark depression, excessive misery
If it weren't for bad luck, I'd have no luck at all
Gloom, despair, and agony on me."

Roy Clark & Buck Owens
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 21, 2017, 02:13:01 PM
It all makes life interesting, but I hope all goes well with the farm and the U3's on Monday.   :fingers

  My U3's arrive on Monday as well.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 21, 2017, 02:35:38 PM
Sounds like a U3 farm might be the safest, most efficient bet.

My U3 will probably arrive in....well who knows......3 weeks? Meh...whenever.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 21, 2017, 04:41:34 PM
Quote from: Dingo on January 21, 2017, 02:13:01 PM
It all makes life interesting, but I hope all goes well with the farm and the U3's on Monday.   :fingers

  My U3's arrive on Monday as well.
I think I snatched a wee bit of victory from the jaws of defeat. In a last desperate effort, I changed the power cable to the slow r-box and all three are running like a scalded dog. Maybe just a bad pin ??? Hope it stays stable all night.
Still no luck on the R4. I did get it to load the generic USB driver but zadig fails when trying to install WINUSB. I have run out of things to try. I will request a refund. I only paid $80 + shipping for it. The 750W PSU is worth that. Way too much noise anyway. If you cup your hands to your ears you can probably hear it.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 21, 2017, 04:43:36 PM
Quote from: chooka03 on January 21, 2017, 02:35:38 PM
Sounds like a U3 farm might be the safest, most efficient bet.

My U3 will probably arrive in....well who knows......3 weeks? Meh...whenever.
Is that the one from Croatia? I saw he sold his last one.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 21, 2017, 06:31:58 PM
Yes mate.
I saw it when he had 5 and was dubious due to his lack of selling on Ebay but he's been very helpful and it's in the post.
Apparently he has a U3 farm and is waiting for his Antminer S9's to arrive. He might sell off more of his U3's one day.

I'll ask him to let me know if he does.

I also note that the buyers of his other U3 have eBay feedback based on selling Bitcoin. They must use a farm and "rent" the usage for Bitcoin...or something like that.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Daniel on January 21, 2017, 07:38:46 PM
QuoteIs that the one from Croatia? I saw he sold his last one.

Yes, I've been watching him too.
I bought his second-last one.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 22, 2017, 01:56:55 AM
@ Chooka: Yes it is called a mining contract. You rent a device or the whole farm for a specified number of hours for a specified price. Not sure I would want to give my mining info to a third party.

@ Daniel: Good for you!!  :congrats

I came close to doing a half billion credits today. The 3 rocks are blazing away. Too bad the other one burnt down. Without the R4 though I will not achieve my goal of 1 billion/day.  :thumbdown: Will post some questions in forums today to see if anyone has ideas. Everything checks out but it will not tell Win10 what it is. Wish I had an operating Win7 machine to test it on. I have run out of ideas.

More rain today and through Monday. Then we might see some sun.
:greet

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 22, 2017, 08:50:28 AM
Eeek!! sorry to hear of your drama's DM,  i'm really not sure what to make of your R-box probs.  I know it's of no help to you but as I said before mine's been as reliable as a rock and far more reliable than the U3's.  So "touch wood" once you have things up & running they should stay that way for a good while.  I've never heard of an R-box 2 melting it's power cable but i'm sure such things are not as uncommon as they should be in the mining world.  I hope you get a refund at least?

Thanks for the tip about the R-box placement.  I certainly don't need any more dangers in my crunching cave, lord knows why it hasn't all imploded long ago is anyone's guess,  it's just good luck I suppose cause it's certainly not good management. My room should come with a warning over the door.  "Danger" children & small animals should not enter,  keep hands in pockets at all times & do not touch the burning hot miners. Also it's probably not a bad idea to hold your breath and never linger longer than 60 sec's at one time.  LOL
A slight exaggeration perhaps but lets just say it's a long way from being the safest place on earth.

As for the R4 I'll do some googling and see if I can find any tips for you.  But i'm sure your already way ahead of me there.

Anyway you know what they say, whatever doesn't kill you makes you stronger. :wink  Although I think I could make a pretty compelling argument that that saying is just straight out BS.

Mmm let's see...  Lets say you where in an horrific accident where through some miracle of science you were saved from death but had to eat & talk through your butt hole? Something tells me you would not think of yourself as any stronger?  LOL What do you think?

Crunch-on...



EDIT: This site has a pile of U3's(100+)  and relatively cheap too & free delivery.  Reliable? Who knows?

https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/SHIPPING-new-arrival-ANTMINER-USB-miner-ASIC-Bitcoin-mining-machine-63GH-S-USB-Bitcoin-mining-machine/227686_32215896472.html (https://www.aliexpress.com/store/product/SHIPPING-new-arrival-ANTMINER-USB-miner-ASIC-Bitcoin-mining-machine-63GH-S-USB-Bitcoin-mining-machine/227686_32215896472.html)

EDIT2: Just tried placing an order just to test the water. They have all been sold or removed from sale?? Sorry to get anyones hopes up.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 22, 2017, 10:17:38 AM
Quote from: JugNut on January 22, 2017, 08:50:28 AM
Mmm let's see...  Lets say you where in an horrific accident where through some miracle of science you were saved from death but had to eat & talk through your butt hole? Something tells me you would not think of yourself as any stronger?  LOL What do you think?

HAHAHAHA  :rofl:

Saw the Aliexpress ones about 12 months ago. I think I'd be even more nervous buying out of China than Croatia  :jester:

If anyone's interested in a 30GH/s Butterfly Labs unit, I spoke to this seller and he said he'd take USD$40.00. That's still pretty expensive compared to the R4 Rockminer @ $80 but worthy of a mention.
I thought about buying it, then the U3 came up for less. Just thought I'd put it out there.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Butterfly-Labs-ASIC-Bitcoin-miner-30GHS-used-with-power-supply/182398850251?_trksid=p2045573.c100033.m2042&_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D39923%26meid%3Db4416436b7154ab1a9ea6c876ccc311b%26pid%3D100033%26rk%3D3%26rkt%3D8%26sd%3D172379100292

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 23, 2017, 01:44:35 AM
Quote from: JugNut on January 22, 2017, 08:50:28 AM
Lets say you where in an horrific accident where through some miracle of science you were saved from death but had to eat & talk through your butt hole? Something tells me you would not think of yourself as any stronger?  LOL What do you think?
I know a lot of people who talk out of their butt. In fact, one of them is running my country now!

Wow, my best day ever at 607,207,015 credits. The 3 r-boxes are on full afterburner with hash rates up to 114 GH/s.  :yahoo: When I get the 2 U3's installed I may get to 3/4 billion/day.  :shock

Got one lead from a forum that my R4 problem may be caused by a weak/failing PSU. I have been using the 750W Dell that came with it. It is rather beat up. The R4 uses 600W. Today I will remove it and install 4 new power cables and a brand new ATX EVGA 1000W Platinum.
:fingers

More rain and high winds today. Will someone FedEx us a box of Spring?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 23, 2017, 04:51:38 AM
It Works!
:yes
Good News:I changed the PSU and rebooted and Win 10 ID'ed it as 4 miners and loaded WINUSB. I started BU and it is running 4 wu's. Also good news is the old PSU was producing about 65% of the noise. The EVGA is almost silent. The R4 is quieter now.

Bad News: One blade is completing at 100 Gh/s and one at 83 Gh/s. The other two do not seem to be working as they have been running for 45 min. All 4 blades have red power lights but only one has a blinking blue hashing light. I am going to let it run for a bit and see if all 4 blades complete wu's. Then I will take it down and replace the 4 USB-MSU cables with my new gold plated Mini-USB cables. I know the hub is good. I will also replace the main USB cable but I cannot find one just now.

I am so excited it is working I almost had to change my skivvies!  :rofl:

:dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2: :dance2:

EDIT: See pic. Got to get it off the floor. Not exactly a plug-and-play, user-friendly device.  :rofl: All 4 blades have completed wu's.

EDIT 2: Changed the cables and all 4 blades have blue hashing lights.  :yahoo:

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on January 23, 2017, 09:26:34 AM
Great you got it working.  v:
Very impressive, looks like some sinister contraption of a mad scientist. Showing off a nicely turned leg too.

Blue hash lights, aha, a house of blue lights:

Lace up your your boots and a-broom on down
To a knocked-out shack on the edge of town
An eight-beat combo that just won't quit
Keep a-walking till you see a blue light lit
Call in there and you'll see some sights
At the house, the house, the house of blue lights
There's fryers and broilers and Detroit barbecue ribs
But the treat of the treats
Is when they serve you all those fine eight-beats
You're gonna spend the rest of your brights
Down at the house, the house, the house of blue lights

Now we have a time and we cut some rugs
And we dig those tunes like they should be dug
A real home-coming for all the cats
Just shimmy down the path of the welcome mat
Call in there and you'll see some sights
At the house, the house, the house of blue lights
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 23, 2017, 10:54:29 AM
haha Kashi. Karen said it was butt-ugly. All the Rock's are going full bore. I think they do better when they get warm.
v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 23, 2017, 02:31:28 PM
Awesome stuff Dataman  :thumbsup:
WoW.. I just checked your really moving some numbers now!!  :crazy

What do you think the problem with R-boxes was? Did you change their PSU's and USB cables too?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 23, 2017, 05:43:12 PM
Well done Dataman!
You know...I gotta laugh...... WAAAAY back in the day, a number of people here were very ANTI Bitcoin..... now look.....The world's energy consumption has doubled and I think it's from all the B/U users  :jester:

Are there any more units other than the U3's your waiting for DM?

Also, any plans on building a mini nuclear reactor beside the house to power all this stuff?? :crazy
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 24, 2017, 12:26:09 AM
@JN: The problem with the r-boxes was cables. When I changed to the red EVGA cables they took off. You need to put up an Avalon 6 so you can teach me how to do it.  :jester:       :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: I know nothing about a RPi.

@Chooka: Just two more U3's that arrive today. Should put me close to a Billion/day. The power is not that bad ... less than GPU's. The R4 may change that as it is 600W.

I guess the R4 had to warm up. It is doing 4 wu's every 12 minutes.  :dance: The seller has more available ($60 + $50 shipping ... they weight about 5 kg). They ship from Canada.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Rockminer-R4-500-Gh-s-/122303361177?hash=item1c79d93099:g:WlMAAOSwt5hYcmH3

Note: The picture he shows is a T1 not an R4. You get what I show in my pic above. It was already cabled and a 750W (albeit dead) PSU. The T1 is 900 Gh/s and takes 8 power feeds and ~ 1,200W  :shock Every cruncher shoud buy one.  :jester:

:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on January 24, 2017, 02:04:14 AM
Wow that's cheap!! But one of if not the biggest problems we have here in Oz is the cost of power,  and another 750 watt's worth of juice would be more than my electrical system or pocket could handle plus they don't sell internationally(although that could be over come).  If I could get a few smaller units I could regulate the load better as i'm doing now.

I'm still on the lookout for something that might do the trick but as yet nothing has come close that fits my needs.  Mmm you know can do a zillion credit a day,  is cheap,  and only draws a few watts.
Yea I know i'm dreaming but something a tad closer to those ridiculously lofty goals would be nice though. Then again if I shut down all the other miners? Then maybe?  The thing is I don't wont to stop doing any of my other crunching,  to me that would be counter productive.

I keep looking.  Crunch-on   
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 24, 2017, 02:15:44 AM
Quote from: JugNut on January 24, 2017, 02:04:14 AM
Wow that's cheap!! But one of if not the biggest problems we have here in Oz is the cost of power,  and another 750 watt's worth of juice would be more than my electrical system or pocket could handle plus they don't sell internationally(although that could be over come).  If I could get a few smaller units I could regulate the load better as i'm doing now.

I'm still on the lookout for something that might do the trick but as yet nothing has come close that fits my needs.  Mmm you know can do a zillion credit a day,  is cheap,  and only draws a few watts.
Yea I know i'm dreaming but something a tad closer to those ridiculously lofty goals would be nice though.

I keep looking.  Crunch-on  
I understand completely mate. There was some method to my madness. In the summer I cannot run the r-boxes/R4 due to heat. But I can run the lizards and ants. True, I cannot run CPU and GPU wu's. The CPU jobs interfere with the miners and the miners lose. GPU wu's work but sends my power bill through the roof. (probably > $1,000/month.) But now I have some flexibility. Crunch on mate!
:cheers:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 24, 2017, 03:58:25 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on January 23, 2017, 05:43:12 PM
WAAAAY back in the day, a number of people here were very ANTI Bitcoin.
I was one of them and to some extent still am. I think the credits are obscene and not in the spirit of what BOINC is. However, I got tired of seeing our team slide from #9 to #49 so I held my nose, closed my eyes and jumped to the dark side to become a credit whore. Like it or not, to be a major player a team must crunch BU.

True story: As you might imagine I was quite excited when I got the R4 stable. After I fixed it I got Karen to admit that it was quieter and did not bother her. She paused for a moment and said, "We are not going to end up with one of these in every room of the house are we?" "No, I said but I am going to install two more U3's." Another pause. "Those are the cute ones in the cages?" I nodded. "Good", she said, "They are quiet and don't blink."
The Lady knows her bitcoin miners.  :rofl:
I think she is so pleased that I did not die a couple of years ago that she is willing to put up with my weird hobby. Come to think of it, I am rather damn happy I didn't die either!!  :rofl:
I am lucky to have her in my life.  :love  
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 24, 2017, 10:59:41 AM
Just looked at the Fedex tracking and not getting my two new miners till tomorrow now.  :cry
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 24, 2017, 07:02:25 PM
Quote
I am lucky to have her in my life.  :love  

LOL Dataman... you go your Lovely smile  :rofl:
Nice one Dingo.

At least you're in the States Dingo..... Mine is coming from Croatia to Australia! Doesn't get much further I think. :)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 25, 2017, 03:50:11 AM
Got one of the new U3's installed. It is causing some sporadic errors:
   195 (0xc3) EXIT_CHILD_FAILED
Will look into it later.
Otherwise a 3/4 Billion credit day is not bad ...  :wink
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 25, 2017, 07:16:42 AM
Got my U3's, the ones in the cage, this morning.  Had to reboot windows 10 a couple of times to get the WINUSB driver to take in both of them but seems to be OK now after I remembered to change the cc_config.xml up from 4 to 6 ASICS


<coproc>
            <type>miner_asic</type>
            <count>6</count>
            <peak_flops>0.000000</peak_flops>
            <device_nums>0 1 2 3 4 5</device_nums>
        </coproc>

 

One is running faster than the other.  I think the one plugged into the powered hub is running quicker but hard to see which one is which.  I have an empty port on the wired hub but it kept dropping out after a minute or two so I just plugged it into the PC USB port.

One ran in 1,827.26 milliseconds and the other one took almost twice as long at 3,468.51 milliseconds .

Will keep an eye on them and see if I need another powered hub or another USB cable ?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 25, 2017, 08:36:47 AM
Quote from: Dingo on January 25, 2017, 07:16:42 AM
Got my U3's, the ones in the cage, this morning.  Had to reboot windows 10 a couple of times to get the WINUSB driver to take in both of them but seems to be OK now after I remembered to change the cc_config.xml up from 4 to 6 ASICS


<coproc>
            <type>miner_asic</type>
            <count>6</count>
            <peak_flops>0.000000</peak_flops>
            <device_nums>0 1 2 3 4 5</device_nums>
        </coproc>

 

One is running faster than the other.  I think the one plugged into the powered hub is running quicker but hard to see which one is which.  I have an empty port on the wired hub but it kept dropping out after a minute or two so I just plugged it into the PC USB port.

One ran in 1,827.26 milliseconds and the other one took almost twice as long at 3,468.51 milliseconds .

Will keep an eye on them and see if I need another powered hub or another USB cable ?
Good Dingo. Un-powed hubs just don't seem to work. I put 4 U3's on one and all four failed. Just switched them to ports on the PC and all are working but one of them keeps throwing out errors. I think I will kill the running one and reboot (again).
Hey thanks for the love smiley.  :wink
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 25, 2017, 09:04:58 AM
Yes Dataman I have one on a powered USB hub and one connected to the USB on the PC and both seem to be working OK.  The first one that ran quick must have been a fluke as they are both running tasks at between 2750 and 3200 milliseconds which is @ 3000 milliseconds it is 1,440,000 credits per task per hour.  Where the Geckos run about 7000 milliseconds so get 617, 142 per task per hour.

I had trouble using zadig to get the correct driver.  I first forgot that I needed the WINUSB with the WCID driver selected then I had to reboot a couple of time as windows 10 would only see one at a time, but fixed now.  :banghead

Yes if anyone wants any specific smileys just send me a PM with a link if possible.


EDIT:  Spoke too soon as I had a look at the stderr.txt and it is not finding the correct driver again on one of the U3's but not sure which one as there is no blue light to see if it is running ? ??


[2017-01-24 15:07:21] USB init, open device failed, err -12,
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] You need to install a WinUSB driver for - AMU device 3:18
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] And associate - AMU device 3:18 with WinUSB using zadig
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] See README.txt file included for help
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] Icarus detect (3:18) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] USB init, open device failed, err -12,
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] You need to install a WinUSB driver for - AMU device 3:18
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] And associate - AMU device 3:18 with WinUSB using zadig
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] See README.txt file included for help
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] Icarus detect (3:18) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] USB init, open device failed, err -12,                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] You need to install a WinUSB driver for - AMU device 3:18                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] And associate - AMU device 3:18 with WinUSB using zadig                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] See README.txt file included for help                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] Icarus detect (3:18) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] USB init, open device failed, err -12,                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] You need to install a WinUSB driver for - AMU device 3:18                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] And associate - AMU device 3:18 with WinUSB using zadig                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] See README.txt file included for help                    
[2017-01-24 15:07:21] Icarus detect (3:18) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)                    
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] USB init, open device failed, err -12,
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] You need to install a WinUSB driver for - AMU device 3:18
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] And associate - AMU device 3:18 with WinUSB using zadig
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] See README.txt file included for help
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] Icarus detect (3:18) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] USB init, open device failed, err -12,
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] You need to install a WinUSB driver for - AMU device 3:18
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] And associate - AMU device 3:18 with WinUSB using zadig
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] See README.txt file included for help
[2017-01-24 15:07:29] Icarus detect (3:18) failed to initialise (incorrect device?)



EDIT again: 15:44  I rebooted and successfully installed the driver again on the one that reverted to the old driver.  When I rebooted again I plugged it into the powered hub so they are both in there now and seem to be running OK.  In the process I went to Device Manager and tried to revert from the windows to the WINUSB but it did not work but it did ask me why I was changing and one of the options was "did not work on windows driver" so maybe it won't revert again :fingers

Just wait and see know when it finishes and gets a new task.


Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on January 25, 2017, 09:40:09 PM
Greetings All

Well it looks like I am late to the party again, since GPU's became redundant on this project.

Going to have to have a look around on EBAY and see whats available and what will crunch on the BITCOIN project.

Oh well lifes like that sometimes.

Happy Crunching
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 26, 2017, 02:56:51 AM
Quote from: tazzduke on January 25, 2017, 09:40:09 PM
Greetings All

Well it looks like I am late to the party again, since GPU's became redundant on this project.

Going to have to have a look around on EBAY and see whats available and what will crunch on the BITCOIN project.

Oh well lifes like that sometimes.

Happy Crunching
:congrats The more the merrier.
Here's the list of ones known to work:
- Antminer U1 1.6 GH/s
- Antminer U2 2.0 GH/S
- Bitfury Red fury 2.2 GH/s
- Nanofury yellowjacket 2.2 GH/s
- Blue Fury 2.6 GH/s
- Bifury 5 GH/s
- Butterfly labs 10 GH/s Bitcoin Miner *
- Block Erupter Blade v2 10.7 GH/s
- Butterfly labs jalapeneo 5-15 GH/s
- GekkoScience Compac BM1384 8-16GH/s (USB HUB necessary?)
- Hexfury 11 GH/s
- Butterfly labs bfl 30 30 GH/s
- Block Erupter Cube 30-38 GH/s
- Rockminer (Rbox) 32-37 GH/s
- Butterfly labs bfl 60 60 GH/s
- Antminer U3 63 GH/s (cgminer 4.9.0+)
- Rockminer (Rbox2) 110 GH/s
- Butterfly labs The Monarch BPU 300 C 300 GH/s *
- Fasthash One 400 GH/s
- Rockminer R3-Box 460 GH/s *
- Rockminer R4 500GH/s
- bfl mini rig 500 GH/s
- Butterfly labs The Monarch BPU 600 C 600 GH/s *
- Butterfly labs Imperial Monarch 1 TH/s *
- Avalon6 3.5TH/s

:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on January 26, 2017, 12:12:17 PM
Thanks Dataman, now just gotta wait to see if any pop up on ebay lol

Regards
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 27, 2017, 12:28:01 AM
Am likin' dem Rockminers!
1,132,801,276 today.
v:

EDIT: BU just started a new campaign for the American Cancer Society (#15).
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on January 27, 2017, 02:22:55 AM
Wow, a billion in a day, that's a power of mining. As Yosemite Sam would say: "You must have dug clear through to Chinee". v:

Thanks for the heads up about the new campaign, will change over now. :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 27, 2017, 04:27:07 AM
LOL Kashi!
A pic of "The Ant Hill".
One of the new U3's is not doing well but I am going to put them on a Superbpak powered hub and see if it makes a difference. I am using all USB ports on that machine now. Oh boy, another 70W hub.
When I get my next electricity bill I may be posting from the cardiac ward of my local hospital.  :rofl:

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 27, 2017, 04:54:21 AM
A pic of "Rock Mountain".



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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 27, 2017, 05:03:40 AM
A rather poor pic of "The Lizard Nest".


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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 27, 2017, 05:13:31 AM
And then there is the monster "Goliath".

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 27, 2017, 10:02:01 AM
 :faint:
WOW Dataman..... Yes... you're lucky you don't live in Australia.... the power bill would indeed give you a heart attack.  :rofl:

I see Daniel has joined the party also  :congrats

The team is really humming along now :)

Edit - I think there was one of those credit irregularities last night where everyone got extra credits. I received 41Mil which isn't correct as my hardware hasn't changed from 2 working Geckos.
Probably receive less credits today.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 27, 2017, 12:10:46 PM
Quote from: tazzduke on January 26, 2017, 12:12:17 PM
Thanks Dataman, now just gotta wait to see if any pop up on ebay lol

Regards

Hey Tazzduke, this guy is in Australia and selling 2 x Butterfly labs 60GH/s devices. He says he'll also throw in a PSU if you buy both.
These are on the approved list.

http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/Butterfly-Labs-60gh-s-SC-ASIC-Bitcoin-Miner-buy-2-for-free-EVGA-500W-PSU-/162369274839?hash=item25cdf683d7:g:m4oAAOSw5cNYhpvO


Can't say whether his pricing is good or not as I haven't really been looking at the Butterfly Labs stuff much. There was a 30GH/s unit for sale on the US eBay for USD$40.00 (AUD$53.00) so if this unit is a 60GH/s unit then I guess the pricing is fair.
Apparently Butterfly labs made a 30GH/s unit and a 60GH/s unit...... not sure how you tell the difference between the two when looking at them.

I saw one ebay add that said "60GH/s" unit in the main heading but in the finer print it said "this is the 30GH/s version". It was pretty misleading so be wary of that trap.

Personally I'll stick to the U3's as I have a 3yr old and the larger hardware with PSU's just don't look at child friendly for my place.  :crazy

Goodluck mate!
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on January 27, 2017, 08:30:15 PM
Gday Chooka03

Yeah I saw that as well, but I just spent my budget replacing my GTX 580 (YEah this one really hurts on the powerbill and gets so bloody hot).

GPUS that I have crunching (when it cools down a bit) 2 x GTX 960's (which roughly equates to 1 GTX 580) and 1 x GTX 770

I found a USB Antminer U1 1GH/s but I just got outbid and I aint paying anymore than 50 dollars for a USB miner lol

Regards
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on January 27, 2017, 10:56:37 PM
Least you aint running a power monster like my R9 390 :(
Yeah ASIC miners are fetching stupid prices imo.

As people upgrade to newer miners though, we might see more of the smaller ones come on the market.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 30, 2017, 05:45:25 AM
Serendipity: means a "fortunate happenstance" or "pleasant surprise". It was coined by Horace Walpole in 1754. In a letter he wrote to a friend, Walpole explained an unexpected discovery he had made by reference to a Persian fairy tale, The Three Princes of Serendip.

We were out and about yesterday and stopped by the local Flea Market. Not much going on in the middle of Winter but I saw a table of computer parts. 99% obsolete junk but then ... then I spied it ... on the edge of the table ... standing proud ... gleaming in the sun ... a shiny U3! I played dumb (not a big reach for me  :rofl: ) and asked, "What does this do?" " I don't know," he said, "but give me $5 and you can find out." I gave him $5!!! No cable or PSU and I don't know if it works but for $5 (free shipping  :rofl: ) it is worth it. Did not plan to install anymore but what can I say? It was fate.

One of the new U3's is performing badly ... not much better than a Gecko. Question is, "Which one?"

Goliath requires a power cycle (turn PSU off then back on) about every 3 days or it starts to get slower. Hot plug does not work. No big deal.

Bought a RPi 2 model B w/case on eBay for $6.52 (free shipping). Time I learn how to use one. There is a BOINC app for it.

:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on January 30, 2017, 06:57:38 AM
@Dataman.  I assume that RPI is a Raspberry PI 2 so this post might help from the Raspberry thread.  http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1352.msg41430#msg41430 (http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1352.msg41430#msg41430)

If it is a new one it should start straight out the box and you might just need to load BOINC.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on January 30, 2017, 08:38:02 AM
Quote from: Dingo on January 30, 2017, 06:57:38 AM
@Dataman.  I assume that RPI is a Raspberry PI 2 so this post might help from the Raspberry thread.  http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1352.msg41430#msg41430 (http://forum.boinc-australia.net/index.php?topic=1352.msg41430#msg41430)

If it is a new one it should start straight out the box and you might just need to load BOINC.


Cool, thanks. It is used. I formatted a 32 G SD card and downloaded Raspbian. I think I have all the other stuff to config. it. I have an old TV with a HDMI port so hope that works. Don't get the RPi until late next week so should be good to go when it arrives. Will try some Einstein on it. The tutorials on the Rasberry site are quite good.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 01, 2017, 10:54:01 AM
I identified the U3 that was not hashing well. Totally by accident, I noticed it had a 6A power supply. The other three have 8A power supplies. I changed the 6A to 8A and it is hashing well.  :thumbsup: Still do not know if the one from the flea market is good. It powers up with 6A but I do not have any spare USB cables or another 8A PSU. Yet another order to Amazon ...  :rofl:
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 01, 2017, 04:10:43 PM
It would be good if we could see which is which when they are running / or not.  Good pickup on the power supply though.  I only have two U3's and Windows 10 kept overwriting the driver.  I did the same fix as the other one and reverted the driver in Device Manager and said the Windows one did't work and it has been running well for two days.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 02, 2017, 12:44:25 AM
Quote from: Dingo on February 01, 2017, 04:10:43 PM
It would be good if we could see which is which when they are running / or not.  Good pickup on the power supply though.  I only have two U3's and Windows 10 kept overwriting the driver.  I did the same fix as the other one and reverted the driver in Device Manager and said the Windows one did't work and it has been running well for two days.

I have the same Win10 problem every time it updates it loads silbaster (sp?) instead of WinUSB. Sometime it loads one miner with one driver and the other one with the old driver. Last update I got 3 with WinUSB and 1 with silbaster. I have to check each time.

Got my mojo working today. 1,353,737,402  :yes

EDIT: @Dingo I am just curious. We both got two U3's from the same seller. One of mine is 8A and the other was 6A. What did yours come with?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 02, 2017, 06:33:06 AM
@Dataman  Both mine are OUTPUT 12V 7.5 amp.    I had this problem on both mine and then I went to the control Panel/ Device Manager and found that  silbaster driver was there.  On the "Driver" tab I clicked "Roll Back Driver" and it chugged along a bit then produced a screen and asked why I wanted to roll back.  I selected the top option which is some like the driver does not work or something.  After a Reboot the WINUSB driver was back and it hasn't changed back to slbaster since I did it. 

I had my biggest day ever yesterday when both the U3's were working all day and achieved 295,200,000 just on Bitcoin.  Makes a big difference when they both work.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 02, 2017, 07:19:41 AM
Quote from: Dingo on February 02, 2017, 06:33:06 AM
@Dataman  Both mine are OUTPUT 12V 7.5 amp. 
Haha too weird. Good information thought. 6A works but not well. Both 7.5A & 8A work well. Thanks.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 03, 2017, 05:41:11 AM
I see there is now American Cancer Society (Campaign #15) open with work.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 03, 2017, 03:36:02 PM
Hey all, today looks like it will be another golden bitcoin day,  so everyone should do well today.
Not sure whats going on with the credits at BU at the moment, it used to be just once every month or two you'd get a golden day where you'd get 25% more credit than you should have. Now there's been 5 days out the last 10 that have been golden days and by more than 25% too.  By rights I should not get any more than +/- 350 mil a day but today already I have 416 mil & yesterday 836 and the day before 500 mil.  It is happening to everyone so in that regard I guess it's fair?

Mmm then again maybe I should shut my yapper & listen to the old saying? "never look a gift horse in the mouth" LOL
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 04, 2017, 12:25:56 AM
I agree. I should be at ~900 mill. Yesterday I did 1.5 Billion. ? Run times seem to be decreasing. For example, when I first installed the U3's they took about 55 min/wu. Now they run in about 27 min. Same miner; same wu but much different run times. I'll take it though.  :wink
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 04, 2017, 01:24:11 AM
Hey DM, yea the U3's should take just under 30mins when there running at full speed.  I have only one left that runs at full speed the other 3 run half speed and take about 55 mins like some of yours.  I think half the chips have failed in them.  Changing USB slots, cables & PC's doesn't bring them back to full speed. I'm glad my rockminer 2 is still firing well.   
My daily credit should be tanking but thanks to the golden bitcoin it's skyrocketing.

LOL All hail the golden bitcoin  :worship

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 04, 2017, 01:36:34 AM
Quote from: JugNut on February 04, 2017, 01:24:11 AM

LOL All hail the golden bitcoin  :worship
... and it certainly helps our team position.  :wink
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 05, 2017, 03:53:05 AM
 :cry My $5 flea market U3 is D*E*A*D.  :cry Red light comes on, fan spins but Win10 does not recognize it even as an unknown device. Oh, well.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 05, 2017, 06:26:02 AM
In device manager did you try looking to see if it is hidden ?  Control Panel/Device Manager /View/Hidden  One of my U3's ended up there because it did not have a driver or the driver was corrupt.  Might be lucky  :niceday
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 05, 2017, 07:06:45 AM
Quote from: Dingo on February 05, 2017, 06:26:02 AM
In device manager did you try looking to see if it is hidden ?  Control Panel/Device Manager /View/Hidden  One of my U3's ended up there because it did not have a driver or the driver was corrupt.  Might be lucky  :niceday
Thanks but it is not there either.  :thumbdown:
Got the RPi and got it up and running and updated. Loaded the BOINC app but have not attached to a project yet. Am sharing an Ethernet cable with another PC. Have to pull a separate cable but if I get caught in the hall with a coil of cable over my arm I am in BIG TROUBLE!  :rofl: Will have to wait until she is otherwise occupied.  :jester:
:love
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 05, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
Hey DM was the ziag driver app able to find your $5 U3?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 06, 2017, 01:27:28 AM
Quote from: JugNut on February 05, 2017, 04:01:18 PM
Hey DM was the ziag driver app able to find your $5 U3?
No, neither Win10 nor zadig shows it.  :thumbdown:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Daniel on February 06, 2017, 04:33:46 PM
My Antminer U3 from Croatia arrived today. So far it's working well.  :fingers
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 06, 2017, 06:52:34 PM
Well that bodes well for me then Daniel.
Thanks for the update!
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 07, 2017, 12:10:44 AM
:crazy Whoo Hoo!! another ant in the colony. :crazy

Congrats on the new member in the family Daniel,  more firepower in the team is always welcome.


@ Chooka:  Be patient mate it will be your turn soon enough. ;)

Crunch-on....  :wavey2:

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 07, 2017, 01:46:58 AM
Way to go Daniel.  :bravo
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 07, 2017, 02:21:32 PM
 Glad that you have got it beat.  Congrats on getting the U3.  :congrats :congrats

I got a U3 today that I bought off ebay last week.  Had to buy the power supply and USB cable which which cost more than the U3, should have waited and ordered them on Amazon I think, but I wanted to get it going..  I had a devil of a time getting it going but I think it is off to the races now but I am one Gecko down because I ran out of room on the powered Hub.  Will have to order one tonight.

:congrats01 again and remember  :rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 07, 2017, 03:13:37 PM
Quote from: Dingo on February 07, 2017, 02:21:32 PM
I got a U3 today that I bought off ebay last week. 
One more to the ant army.  :congrats
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 07, 2017, 03:50:55 PM
I was a bit too quick to say it was OK.   It did run for a while but it stopped and now all I get is the zeros.   Have given up0 for tonight will try again tomorrow.   :compbash: :banghead
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 07, 2017, 07:37:50 PM
I found that the U3's don't like to share with other kinds of miners, they work MUCH better when working on there own PC.

Good luck,  & congrats on your new purchase.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 07, 2017, 07:55:43 PM
Urgh    :compbash:
So my U3 arrived but I've tried 3 times to get zadig installed and it's failed each time.
I can see the device but Zadig won't install. You guys ever come across that?

I've run out of time for today  :banghead

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 07, 2017, 10:25:27 PM
I cannot for the life of me get the zadig driver to install.
Tried rolling back the original driver, intalling the WinUSB (v6.1.7600.16385) driver (the one that won't install), tried different USB ports.

I can see the device in device manager and Zadig can also see the device... the driver just won't install.

The fan runs and I see 2 red lights in the U3.
Am I missing something??

Edit..Hmm maybe it is working? I see a couple of completed WU in around 24min?
I'll check in the morning.
Just to add insult to injury, the DVI port on my monitor died.... I've had to rig up a HDMI connection.  :faint:

Goodnight :wavey2:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 07, 2017, 11:41:28 PM
Hey Chooka, if you had installed ziag on that PC previously then the U3 was probably installed automatically.

Also you get one red light when you have power & USB plugged in.  The second red light indicates it's hashing(working).  It's just like the gekko's hashing light but with the U3 it doesn't flash it just stays solid.  So yea 2 red light's is a good thing, when that second red light goes out you know it's time for a hot plug. 

Congrats Buddy.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 08, 2017, 01:35:23 AM
@ Dingo: I agree with JN, you cannot mix miners. Here is how I add a miner.
1. Suspend BU.
2. Abort BU wu's that are running.
3. Edit cc_config. to new number of miners.
4. Install new miner device.
5. Run zadig and check EACH miner for proper driver (WinUSB). Install WinUSB as necessary.
6. Boot the PC.
7. Run zadig and check EACH miner AGAIN.
8 If OK, resume BU.

@ Chooka: Looks like you got it working. Another ant in the hill!  :congrats
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 08, 2017, 05:52:28 AM
Morning!
Thanks for the feedback guys!
Although encouraging to hear I need 2 red lights..... I'm a bit skeptical that it's working properly. Guess I'll know over the next few days.
I have a feeling I'll need to as you said Dataman. All up I reckon I tried about 7 times to install the Zadig driver last night and each time it said Driver Failed. However after a restart, all miner descriptions in device manager match and apparently were working properly.
I don't feel any heat coming off the fan though. I would have expected some heat.

Maybe I should just try the U3 by itself running 1 WU to establish if its working.

Thx again guys!

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 08, 2017, 07:19:50 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on February 08, 2017, 05:52:28 AM
I don't feel any heat coming off the fan though. I would have expected some heat.
They do not produce much heat. Since it is Summer where you are and the room is warm, you may not feel anything.

QuoteMaybe I should just try the U3 by itself running 1 WU to establish if its working.

If you are running other miner types with the U3 it may (and probably will) give you problems.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 08, 2017, 07:24:11 AM
@Dataman   I have three Gechos and three U3's running on the same powered hub.  I eventually got the new one running but it is slower than the other U3's.  After it returns a work unit it does not pick up new work on the new WU until the software gives a hotplug signal. It is working though and has been running all night.  I thought it wasn't because I saw all the zeros and didn't give it time.  So it is taking just over a half hour of doing nothing before it starts.    I need to go out and get a new powered USB hub so I will split them when I get it.

12:30:54 (9848): wrapper (7.5.26011): starting
12:30:54 (9848): wrapper: running cgminer.exe ( -o stratum+tcp://stratum.bitcoin.cz:3333 -u bu15.worker1 -p x -o stratum+tcp://sha256.eu.nicehash.com:3334 -u 1BvCktp9tMA93nkN2ZYA2KVG3SVoJQh3ss -p x --failover-only -o stratum+tcp://stratum.mining.eligius.st:3334 -u 1BvCktp9tMA93nkN2ZYA2KVG3SVoJQh3ss -p x --shares 20480 --text-only --no-submit-stale --usb :1)
[2017-02-07 12:30:54] Started cgminer 4.9.2
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-18' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-10' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-9' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-8' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-19' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-18' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-10' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-9' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-8' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-19' - device in use
[2017-02-07 12:31:00] No devices detected!
[2017-02-07 12:31:00] Waiting for USB hotplug devices or press q to quit
[2017-02-07 12:31:00] Probing for an alive pool
[2017-02-07 12:31:01] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 256
[2017-02-07 12:31:01] Pool 2 difficulty changed to 4095.9
[2017-02-07 12:31:01] Network diff set to 422G
[2017-02-07 12:30:54] Started cgminer 4.9.2                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-18' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-10' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-9' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-8' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:56] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-19' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-18' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-10' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-9' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-8' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:30:57] MTX: Icarus USB failed to get 'cg-usb-3-19' - device in use                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:00] No devices detected!                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:00] Waiting for USB hotplug devices or press q to quit                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:00] Probing for an alive pool                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:01] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 256                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:01] Pool 2 difficulty changed to 4095.9                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:01] Network diff set to 422G                    
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 51
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Network diff set to 422G
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 51                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Network diff set to 422G                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:22] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block                    
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
[2017-02-07 12:31:53] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 10
[2017-02-07 12:31:53] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart
[2017-02-07 12:31:53] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 10                    
[2017-02-07 12:31:53] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart                    
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
[2017-02-07 12:32:22] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 8
[2017-02-07 12:32:22] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart
[2017-02-07 12:32:22] Pool 0 difficulty changed to 8                    
[2017-02-07 12:32:22] Stratum from pool 0 requested work restart                    
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
(5s):0.000 (1m):0.000 (5m):0.000 (15m):0.000 (avg):0.000h/s          
[2017-02-07 12:35:14] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
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[2017-02-07 12:45:30] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
[2017-02-07 12:45:30] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block                    
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[2017-02-07 12:55:03] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block
[2017-02-07 12:55:03] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block                    
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[2017-02-07 12:58:42] Stratum from pool 0 detected new block                    
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[2017-02-07 13:09:04] Hotplug: Icarus added AU3 0
[2017-02-07 13:09:04] Accepted 14f2446c Diff 12/8 AU3 0 pool 0
[2017-02-07 13:09:05] Accepted 0f5fd07c Diff 17/8 AU3 0 pool 0
[2017-02-07 13:09:06] Accepted 01c8c90c Diff 143/8 AU3 0 pool 0
[2017-02-07 13:09:06] Accepted 06a33a81 Diff 39/8 AU3 0 pool 0
[2017-02-07 13:09:07] Accepted 1ed40f09 Diff 8/8 AU3 0 pool 0
[2017-02-07 13:09:07] Accepted 0c791942 Diff 21/8 AU3 0 pool 0
[2017-02-07 13:09:04] Hotplug: Icarus added AU3 0                    
[2017-02-07 13:09:04] Accepted 14f2446c Diff 12/8 AU3 0 pool 0                    
[2017-02-07 13:09:05] Accepte



@Chooka   I found that after I installed the driver I needed to reboot the PC and then open Zadig again and select the U3.  It will say "Reinstall Driver but don't press that press "Down Arrow" beside it and press "Install WCID driver"    Then reboot again, windows loves to be rebooted when you install drivers and change settings.  It Zadig stall and starts coming up with messages and doesn't close for a while it is screwed you should reboot.

Just my 10 cents worth.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 08, 2017, 04:27:58 PM
Hi guys, appreciate your advise.

I think it's running because I have more than usual credits but I'm not sure if it's working to it's full potential.
If I was running U3 on it's own and doing 20GH/s tasks, how many credit points does it produce? If 2 Geckos produce around say 25 - 30Mil/day, I'd assume the U3 would be a lot more!

Edit - I saw on a previous post Dingo you said a U3 does about 66Mil/day. Is that still the case?

@Dingo - Yeah I did use the drop down box and installed the Install WCID driver which worked fine. I then tried installing the driver & also rebooting my pc and trying to install the driver. Each time it said "driver failed"
But alas.... windows does show all the miners with the same description now (which it didn't prior to attempting to load Zadig drivers)

I woke at 1am and notice the second red light was off so hotplugged it and it hasn't gone off (red light) again yet.
I'm undecided if I should unplug the Geckos and just run 1 WU with the U3 only just to see what it's doing. Guess I can then add the Geckos back in once I have a base line for the U3.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 08, 2017, 05:37:22 PM
Hmmm getting nervous.
So here's what I've done.

1) Changed the cc_config to 1 WU.
2) Unplugged the geckos from my powered hub so only the U3 is plugged in.
3) Restarted computer and closed BOINC.
4) Opened Zadig and installed Install WCID driver - Success.
5) Restated my PC and closed BOINC upon restart.
6) Opened Zadig and selected Install driver - Driver Installation failed.

I'm out of ideas.

Both lights are on even though I have BOINC not running.
:thumbdown:

I'm going to restart now and run 1 WU to see if anything happens.

Edit - Upon restart I went into device manager and found the device. Under the driver tab it says -
Driver Provider - libwdi
Driver version - 6.1.7600.16385
Digital Signer - USB\VID_10C4&PID_EA60 (libwdi autogenerated)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 08, 2017, 06:07:45 PM
That is what my driver says it is as well, but if it failed it might not be working??  If Zadig said it failed, I would have rebooted the PC and tried to load it again.  It took me a lot of time to get mine working. What is the amp output of the power supply you have.  I saw that Dataman had one that was only 6 amp and it did not work, all mine are 12V 7.5 amp output.   
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 08, 2017, 06:28:18 PM
Hi Dingo,
I did try restarting after all that and I must admit.... in the 30min that that I was out, it appears that it finished the WU  :fingers
Seems to take a while for your work to update so I can't see the run time when I check my tasks. I'm watching the next 20GH/s WU now. 16mins so far with 12.33% work complete.

As for the power lead, I scored a spare one from a PC here so it's the same as a typical PC power cord 10A according to the plug. The one I got with he miner says 6A at the plug.
I've probably tried about 10 times to load the driver in all with failure message each time.

Edit - Ah ha! The WU just finished. About 22min somewhere there... guess it must be working?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 09, 2017, 04:12:36 AM
Quote from: Dingo on February 08, 2017, 06:07:45 PM
That is what my driver says it is as well, but if it failed it might not be working??  If Zadig said it failed, I would have rebooted the PC and tried to load it again.  It took me a lot of time to get mine working. What is the amp output of the power supply you have.  I saw that Dataman had one that was only 6 amp and it did not work, all mine are 12V 7.5 amp output.  
Yes, I looked up the U3 on an obsolete web page. The new ones shipped with a 12V 7.5A PSU. They were also $35 USD in lots of 10.  :rofl: Now they sell for $100+ if you can find them.  :faint:
I am still playing with my $5 "bargain" U3. With a 7.5 amp PSU I can now get Win10 to recognize it as an unknown device. Still cannot load a driver though but it is a step forward. Like a "high maintenance woman" they take a lot of effort to keep them happy.  :rofl:

@Chooka: Looks good. My best ones run in ~25 min. and the others from 55min. to an hour and 15 min. Looks like you have a good one at 22. min.

:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 09, 2017, 04:42:21 AM
Chooka good that it is working and the time is good as mine take from 25 minutes to over an hour for the new one.  It was stopped again this morning so had to hot boot the bloody thing and off it went again after a while.  It has been the most expensive one that I bought as I had to get both cables and the power supply as well.  I need to get another powerd USB hub to get the other Gecko back running and jave the Geckos and the U3's separated.

Keeps our minds busy all these computer things.  :compbash:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 09, 2017, 05:57:45 AM
Yeah my U3 needed hotplugging this morning too....but I'm not complaining too much. At least it works! v:

It's funny.... I spoke to Sidehack about my Geckos....he said because I "overclocked" them without extra cooling, that's why they died. I said I must have gotten awfully lucky with the current operational 2 I have because they haven't missed a beat ;)
He said he'd fix them for me if I allowed for freight and some parts. I replied with OK... but how much for parts and confirm the return freight?...............No response.

I wonder if I called his bluff with the offer of help. :jester:

I hate having 3 dead Gecko's in my drawer and I would consider having them fixed... the biggest killer though is US freight. It's crazy expensive to Aus post. (or even Croatian post as I've discovered) Going by the post code he gave me, it would be about AUD$15 to the US. A lot more to get them back I think.
DM - Did you look at freight costs from US to Aus? (4510)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 09, 2017, 06:58:53 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on February 09, 2017, 05:57:45 AM
DM - Did you look at freight costs from US to Aus? (4510)
No, didn't look further. My quote was a FedEx box 1/2 kg. FedEx envelope would be cheaper. USPS envelope would be cheapest. You can look here and enter your info. But remember the USPS can lose an elephant and break an anvil.  :rofl:
https://postcalc.usps.com/
:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 09, 2017, 11:43:01 AM
 :yes I Got a new powered hub to separate the Geckos and the U3's.  Had a dick of a time getting the U3's to be recognised but eventually after installing the drivers again they now work sort of.  The new one is still not kicking off at the start and tries and tries for work and produces lots of line of zeros.  To top it off the Gecko that I had unplugged since I got the U3 does not get recognised by Windows 10 or  Zadig any longer.  Tried for over an hour with different things plugged in from all to just that one with no luck.  :cry

So I have a dead Gecko and a U3 that works sometimes.  The U3 still hasn't started crunching and it has been 30 minutes but I hope it starts after the software gives it a hot plug signal  ??  :banghead


Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 09, 2017, 04:29:02 PM
Quote from: Dataman on February 09, 2017, 06:58:53 AM
Quote from: chooka03 on February 09, 2017, 05:57:45 AM
DM - Did you look at freight costs from US to Aus? (4510)
No, didn't look further. My quote was a FedEx box 1/2 kg. FedEx envelope would be cheaper. USPS envelope would be cheapest. You can look here and enter your info. But remember the USPS can lose an elephant and break an anvil.  :rofl:
https://postcalc.usps.com/
:oz:

Hi Dataman,

That link was the one I used to. When I bought my Geckos they came in an envelope. Still...when I type in the weight and postcodes etc, it's still ridiculously expensive. $63.50 USD!! I'm surer Holybitcoin didn't spend that to send them to me.  :thumbdown:

As for my U3, it's just plugged into a spare USB port on my mobo. Seems to be doing fine.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 12, 2017, 01:47:15 PM
I still have one U3 that does spinns it's wheels and does not do anything except use power and time.  I have been looking for somewhere that I can Identify which U3 it was.  Although I still don't know which one it is on the Hub, I think it is the latest one, I have been able to find a link between the BOINC Manager device # and the slot.  If you look in the slot there is a file called "init_data.xml" and inside that there is the following reference which I believe is pointing to the BOINC Manager device.


<gpu_type>miner_asic</gpu_type>
<gpu_device_num>4</gpu_device_num>
<gpu_opencl_dev_index>0</gpu_opencl_dev_index>




EDIT:  Murphy's law kicked in while I was writing the post the U3 started crunching numbers, just takes a long time to start working.  Losing 30 - 45 minutes before it starts is better than mot working at all I guess.  :fingers

          Because it kicked off processing I saw when it finished and I could confirm it was Boinc Manager Device # 4.   :BigGrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 13, 2017, 08:31:51 PM
WOW .... Just noticed there are only 131 people generating credits daily for Bitcoin Utopia.  :holy-moly
148 people with weekly credits.

Maybe they shouldn't have knocked GPU's on the head?
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 14, 2017, 02:02:36 AM
I am not pleased with the performance/efficiency of my U3's and I am shutting them down today. Over the next 2 weeks I will be making some BIG changes to my mining operation. The result after the change should give me ~ 2+ TH/s.  :boom:
(Hint: I bought a 5-tier rack and I will be consolidating the rockminers and replacing the U3's and Gecko's with ........ snicker, snicker.)  :wink
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 14, 2017, 10:17:02 AM
You really are getting into it, good luck with the new farm and  :holy-moly 2 Tb a day is HUGE.   :bravo
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 14, 2017, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: Dataman on February 14, 2017, 02:02:36 AM
(Hint: I bought a 5-tier rack and I will be consolidating the rockminers and replacing the U3's and Gecko's with ........ snicker, snicker.)  :wink
:greet

Butterfly labs Imperial Monarch 1 TH/s??  :crazy
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 14, 2017, 08:04:25 PM
 :wink
Quote from: chooka03 on February 14, 2017, 05:40:07 PM
Quote from: Dataman on February 14, 2017, 02:02:36 AM
(Hint: I bought a 5-tier rack and I will be consolidating the rockminers and replacing the U3's and Gecko's with ........ snicker, snicker.)  :wink
:greet

Butterfly labs Imperial Monarch 1 TH/s??  :crazy

Are you guessing chooka?  or has DM let the details slip?

@DM: Don't leave us hanging mate?  Spill the beans already.  :BigGrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 15, 2017, 01:17:16 AM
OK, since you asked ...  :BigGrin

2 x these:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=677056.0

"El Diablo" will have:
3 x Rockminer New R-Box @ ~110 GH/s each
1 x Rockminer R4 @ ~ 500 GH/s
2 x Rockminer Rocket RK @ ~480 GH/s each
13 x Gecko Science @ ~1.6 GH/s each

4 x Raspberry Pi crunching Collatz
1 x Server i7 980 (w/ 2 x EVGA GTX 970)

I do not know if I will restart the U3's. Testing their wattage at the wall I found they waste (as heat) a lot of electricity converting 110V to 5V/7.5A.

The new rack arrives today (some assembly required  :wink ) and the Rockets arrive the middle of next week. Cabling is a nightmare but I will take my time and try to make it tidy. Power consumption for El Diablo will be ~ 3,500W at the wall.  :holy-moly but I can shut down 2 other servers (~ 2,000 W) so the net is not as bad as one might think. WARNING: When I fire it up the lights may dim on the West coast of California.  :jester:

I am having fun ....  :golf
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 15, 2017, 05:16:22 AM
Oh my glory!!!    :bravo on your excess,  DM  :worship   I'm not sure whether to be horrified or jealous? LOL
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 15, 2017, 05:29:30 AM
 :holy-moly Looks like it might be techno disco in the room as they have blue lights and the Gecko' flash.  There is a Youtube Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekgsAmnNChQ) in Chinese  but it is sub titled and looks like the installation to a Raspberry is quite simple.

Good luck put up a photo when they are all hooked up and running.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 15, 2017, 07:46:51 AM
Quote from: Dingo on February 15, 2017, 05:29:30 AM
:holy-moly Looks like it might be techno disco in the room as they have blue lights and the Gecko' flash.  There is a Youtube Video (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ekgsAmnNChQ) in Chinese  but it is sub titled and looks like the installation to a Raspberry is quite simple.

Good luck put up a photo when they are all hooked up and running.
Good video. Is the potted plant a necessity or an accessory?  :rofl: I will post a pic when done.
I cannot run them at BU on a RPi. There is a procedure but it is lengthy and you have to do it each time you reboot or restart BOINC.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 23, 2017, 06:25:32 AM
I just put "El Diablo" back online. The small pic does not do it credit to the enormity but you get the idea. I still have some cable management to do but I completely ran out of small wire ties. Need to put the side cover on the server so it does not look like it just committed seppuku.  :wink
This has been a lot of fun ... now we shall see what numbers it produces.
:golf

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Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on February 23, 2017, 07:49:32 AM
Looks good and let the credits start rolling in.  I am a bit jealous but I have had my time, now just need to go with the flow and do what I can.  It will be interesting to see how much your credits per Day jump.  :bravo
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on February 24, 2017, 02:44:59 AM
 :congrats01 that's an awesome looking setup you got there Dataman.  :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 24, 2017, 03:29:18 AM
Thanks JN and Dingo. I got 1,585,305,326 on the first 3/4 day of operation. Can it do 2 billion/day? Should be able to tell tomorrow.  :fingers

:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 25, 2017, 08:48:46 PM
WOW...super impressive.
I wonder how much Bitcoin you would pull in if it weren't being donated to projects. I see the price hit an all time high.

:oz:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 26, 2017, 03:09:27 AM
If anyone is interested:
I got the following eBay email from asmidl3 in Croatia

"Respect
Are you interested in buying antminer u3 have in stock 50 pieces
Price depends on the amount that would have taken
for further details contact message"

He is known to be a reputable seller. I do not know if he has them listed or is selling them outside eBay. His international shipping rate was $35 USD on the ones he had listed before.

Well, it looks like the new array has settled down to doing ~20 BU wu's every 20 minutes.  :crazy Took a sneak peek at PG&E this AM ...  :faint:

:greet





Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on February 26, 2017, 10:32:03 AM
Some HUGE numbers there Dataman!  :faint:

Thanks for the message about the U'3s. Personally, I'm done. Definitely no more Bitcoin hardware for me. (Just noticed I got the same email.  sigh...wish I could afford more but I have to say no :()

Edit - wow..lets call a spade, a spade..DM you are now contributing WELL over HALF the teams daily credits! 5th fastest daily credits with daylight between us and 6th.
:bravo

Thank you! :USA1
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Daniel on February 26, 2017, 05:23:11 PM
I recieved the email as well.
I've ordered 2 more.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: MAGPIE on February 26, 2017, 08:55:49 PM
Well Dataman I have to admit you have put in a lot of time and effort setting that up.........well done :thumbsup:

I would be too scared to leave home in case it went  :boom: or there was a city wide power outage and some upset guys were waiting for me on the doorstep when I came home :BigGrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on February 27, 2017, 01:41:13 AM
Thanks all. I had a lot of fun planning and setting it up. It is not as bad as one might think. I think I mentioned before I have a good friend whose son is an electrician. I got a chance to talk to him about my setup at his dad's 65th birthday party. He pointed out quite a few things I could do to reduce the watts used. Little things like heavy gauge power cables (12 gauge) where lighter gauge (16) would have less resistance and serve just as well. Too fast fan speeds that do not allow the air to pick up heat before being exhausted from the case and using more watts. The big one was properly loading the PSU's to ~80% of capacity rather than having more PSU's running at 30-40% capacity. This causes some of the excess potential being burned off as heat rather than doing work (I use the term work in the Physics definition of the term). This allowed me to reduce the total number of PSU's in my configuration.
Doing all this allowed me to add ~1,000 more watts with only a small increase in watts used. These numbers are preliminary and I am still using a lot of electricity but that's OK for now.
Replacing the MNB-MAT 4715KL-04W-B56 fans with high-volume, low-noise Arctic fans has greatly reduced the noise level.
So far so good. I wish I could run CPU's, GPU's and miners but then my bill would be >$1,500/month and that is not acceptable. I will have to shut down the miners in May and go back to normal CPU/GPU crunching.
Thanks again for the support mates.
v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on March 03, 2017, 02:01:28 AM
Interesting reading.
http://www.reuters.com/investigates/special-report/bitcoin-wright-patents/
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on March 06, 2017, 01:37:34 AM
Best day ever ... 1,921,253,924 ... almost 2 billion.
:dance2:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on March 06, 2017, 06:32:08 AM
Very close there Dataman.  You might need to get one more U3  :BigGrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on March 06, 2017, 07:41:46 AM
Quote from: Dingo on March 06, 2017, 06:32:08 AM
Very close there Dataman.  You might need to get one more U3  :BigGrin
The U3's are in a box and the Geckos are in a bag ... just Rockminers.
:BigGrin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on March 18, 2017, 12:37:19 AM
Best day ever at BU
2,139,600,000.
v:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on March 20, 2017, 12:41:41 AM
Not bad for a Saturday's work.
2,902,947,036
My RAC is #5 in the world.
:yes
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on March 20, 2017, 01:06:51 AM
Way to go DM that's a huge number  :thumbsup:   I think that could be your best day ever, nice! 
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on March 20, 2017, 03:56:39 AM
Huge number you will need to take up my slack as I am not going to be crunching for a while.  :bloodshot
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on March 20, 2017, 04:50:25 PM
This sums it up...... :holy-moly
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on March 21, 2017, 01:36:07 AM
Campaign 10 (SRBase) has been restarted but all wu's come up invalid. I reported them to Henri.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on March 26, 2017, 09:03:17 AM
Dare I say.....but is Bitcoin Utopia stuffed these days since they stopped GPU work?
When looking at monthly credits, there are only 155 people contributing credits. 155 people throughout the WORLD.
Its no wonder projects are now crawling along towards completion. And imagine what % is mostly gained from those in the top 10 positions.

Bit of shame for the scientific community really as a way of getting some funding.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on March 26, 2017, 10:39:23 AM
I started my miners back up today after a lot of reboots and reloading drivers etc.  I think they are all working now so credit should start going up tomorrow.   :fingers

@chooka      :holy-moly Yes there are only 127 today with credit so is dropping all the time.   I am not going to invest any more money in minres as I cannot use them other than here.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on April 15, 2017, 07:11:22 AM
Another one bites the dust. Want to buy some miners?  :faint:

Message 11991 - Posted: 14 Apr 2017, 17:07:37 UTC

Hello!

After these four campaigns are all finished, Bitcoin Utopia will close down, at least for temporarily. This should happen in the early summer.

Thanks for all these years and thanks for understanding!

Henri.
____________
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on April 15, 2017, 08:53:45 AM
I guess all we can do is crunch till the tasks stop.  I am offline till the 19th of April as my PC is packed up ready to move to my RV resort.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on April 15, 2017, 09:59:25 AM
LOL...(not really laughing...just shaking my head)

I guess it was always a risk buying equipment for this project but some people have spend hundreds of $$$. I guess the flip side is, any of us could start actually mining BC for ourselves but I don't think it will be worthwhile with my small ASIC miners and 1 x U3.
Actually, one of my Gecko's is on the way out which will then leave me with just one out of the 5 I bought. The others will go in the bin shortly.

I called Sidehacks bluff when he offered to fix them for me. When I pressed him for a price, I heard nothing back. Personally I think he might be a good entrepreneur but has a poor customer service attitude. He's certainly not a businessman I'd want to deal with again.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on April 25, 2017, 11:55:28 PM
Campaign #12 Free-DC will reach 100% today. One down, three to go.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 02, 2017, 12:41:19 AM
Campaign #12 has ended. Free-DC should get the money in a couple of days.
Well mates, the weather is heating up around these parts and it is getting a might toasty in the server room. I need to recover two PSU's to complete the rebuilt of 2 LINUX servers as well. Today I will shut down the New R-boxes (4 blades). In about a week I will shut down the R-3 (4 blades). I plan to run the other 21 blades until BU ends or it gets too hot but I probably will have to shut them all down by the end of May. I will store the the RK "Rockets" and the R-3 but will probably try to sell the rest this summer.
I am looking forward to getting back to CPU/GPU crunching again in June.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 03, 2017, 09:32:22 AM
Bitcoin soars above $1,400 to all-time high!
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-global-markets-bitcoin-idUSKBN17Y12R

Maybe profitable now.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 04, 2017, 05:24:01 AM
My R3 shut down due to high temp today so I took it off line.   :compbash:
I do not think I will make it until BU shuts down. It is already 30.3 C today.  :thumbdown: Spring this year was about a week long.  :cry
On the bright side, I have repaired and refurbished 7 of the 8 machines. I will work on the last one tomorrow if I get time. Can you believe it? I had to replace 13 fans in 8 cases. BOINC still does not like the GPU drivers on the Linux machines but they are just single GTX 460's so it is not a priority yet. Have some more learning to do.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 25, 2017, 10:52:19 PM
Campaign #10 had ended, Campaign #5 is at 87% and campaign#15 is at 22%. The end is near.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on May 26, 2017, 06:11:46 AM
Yes the end is near.  I am trying to get 10 Billion in #15 before it stops and have almost 7.5 Billion now.  It has been a great credit project and the only conciliation about crunching it is that it helps fund project and the Cancer council so not all bad.  I guess I should have started a long time earlier !!
:rocks

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 26, 2017, 11:07:39 AM
You should be able to make it Dingo. The Bitcoin price fell today and Campaign 10 dropped from 104% complete to 90% complete. I am trying for 300 billion but that will take until June 2nd ... it will depend on price whether or not there are enough wu's left.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 28, 2017, 01:52:29 AM
The bubble burst and Bitcion price dropped ~$700 USD. Appears BU will keep going for a bit more.
:bloodshot
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 28, 2017, 03:28:02 AM
Sheesh!!! I was reading an article the other day that said it had hit an all time high of $2K. 
It sure is on a roller coaster ride at the moment.  :faint:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 28, 2017, 03:31:18 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 28, 2017, 03:28:02 AM
Sheesh!!! I was reading an article the other day that said it had hit an all time high of $2K.  
It sure is on a roller coaster ride at the moment.  :faint:
Yep, it topped at $2700 USD and change but has been in free fall the last two days. More wu's for us.  :wink

https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/bitcoin
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 28, 2017, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: Dataman on May 28, 2017, 03:31:18 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 28, 2017, 03:28:02 AM
Sheesh!!! I was reading an article the other day that said it had hit an all time high of $2K.  
It sure is on a roller coaster ride at the moment.  :faint:
Yep, it topped at $2700 USD and change but has been in free fall the last two days. More wu's for us.  :wink

https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/bitcoin

LOL Always looking on the bright side eh DM?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXyRsOQ9Is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXyRsOQ9Is)

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 28, 2017, 04:21:32 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 28, 2017, 04:16:24 AM
Quote from: Dataman on May 28, 2017, 03:31:18 AM
Quote from: JugNut on May 28, 2017, 03:28:02 AM
Sheesh!!! I was reading an article the other day that said it had hit an all time high of $2K.  
It sure is on a roller coaster ride at the moment.  :faint:
Yep, it topped at $2700 USD and change but has been in free fall the last two days. More wu's for us.  :wink

https://www.worldcoinindex.com/coin/bitcoin

LOL Always looking on the bright side eh DM?  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXyRsOQ9Is (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DXyRsOQ9Is)


LOL ... that's because I can't see in the dark.  :rofl:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 28, 2017, 10:28:18 PM
Campaign #15 has ended early at Blurf's request due to the sinking prices.
:panic:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 29, 2017, 02:09:24 AM
Yes I noticed when I ran dry.    I'm not sure Blurf's decision makes much sense though? I mean as long as people were still crunching the goal would have eventually been reached.   Maybe he thinks it will just keep going down?  Still it's his call.

Oh well just two campaigns to go and both of those haven't got very long left to run either.

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on May 29, 2017, 04:38:53 AM
Yes I just checked mine and out of work as I was only running 15.   I have ticked the box for the other two and hope for the best.  I didn't make my 10 billion on #15, but maybe there will be more work  :mwalk:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on May 29, 2017, 04:45:29 AM
Yes, I agree. He did say in a post at BU that it was scheduled to end on June 1 anyway.
I haven't decided but I may shut down mining on June 1. I would really like to participate in this AA and I cannot do it with the miners running. If there is anything left after the AA I can always restart them. I am scheduled to reach 300 billion on 6/1 so that would be a good stopping point.
But you know me ... new day ... new plan.  :rofl: I can't have it both ways though.  :bloodshot
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on May 29, 2017, 04:32:05 PM
Guess I'll save a bit more money on my power bill when I shut down the U3.
I don't think mining Bitcoins for myself will be worthwhile with 1 x U3 and a couple of Gecko's.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on May 29, 2017, 09:19:19 PM
Yea for us little guys mining is just an exercise in futility i'm afraid Chooka. Since we ozzies pay the highest power prices in the world bitcoin mining is not an option for most of us, if any of us at all?  At least not the way it is now.  I suppose you could do it as a hobby in the knowledge that you probably never break even, let alone ever turn a profit. 

Soo.. unless there's some word that another project like BU will take it's place,  all my miners will soon be appearing on an ebay near you ;)


PS:  Did you see bitcoin prices have rebounded, I think Blurf may have made a boo boo..
http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-rebounds-to-near-2640-following-yesterdays-losses/ (http://www.coindesk.com/bitcoin-price-rebounds-to-near-2640-following-yesterdays-losses/)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 05, 2017, 06:19:00 PM
Can't be long to go now with EVERYONE crunching #5.
It will take some getting used to once I pack up the relatively noisy U3.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 06, 2017, 05:22:50 PM
Well BU has finally ended,  work generation for campaign #5 has stopped.  The WU's you have now & the few left in the hopper should be the last.
http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=1141#12083  (http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=1141#12083)

Mmm talk about conflicted i'm not sure if i'm happy  :thumbsup: or sad  :thumbdown: that BU has ended?  But it's kinda been like that for the entire ride,  hasn't it?  And a crazy ride it sure was...

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 06, 2017, 08:42:43 PM
Yes, know what you mean. It was interesting and fun in parts and frustrating in others. Overall, think I'll be relieved that it's over and soon be able to reboot any time I need to.

When I saw those sticks knew I had to have one: "I shouldn't really, but gadget". Plus the masochistic streak in me was entertained by adjusting that damnable little silver screw so many times and trying to dim the blinking bedroom strobes with marking pen and then teensy pieces of packing tape. And getting a suitable USB hub from Amazon who refused to send me the most recommended 70W Superbpag. The alternative 60W one being not powerful enough to support 5 Gekkos with the resulting burn out of one stick run separately without a fan. The recommended USB fans with a penetrating whine I couldn't stand. The case fan used instead falling over numerous times and razzing my fingers when I picked it up.

But most of that was in the past, although still get a youch! from that fan occasionally. Even the regular dropout of one stick, losing half a days production before an unplug and replug restored connection became routine. The lack of checkpointing combined with the 4 hour runtime although such a minor issue remained surprisingly inconvenient. As the Gekkos and the fan were connected to separate computers couldn't reboot or turn off either box without losing 4 BU tasks in progress. And even though BU credits are totally out of whack with the rest of BOINC, at 2.4 million credits each, still preferred not lose tasks in progress.

Which brings us to the fun part. When I wasn't crunching BU, the credit rate was ridiculous and unfair and even the concept of Bitcoin itself appeared unwholesome in some respects. But once on the inside crunching away then wowee, my daily credit went to town. The tiny sticks yielded oodles each and used very little power compared to a CPU or GPU. The loss of personal ranking that happened when others began scoring big on BU started to be whittled back. The term "roaring up the charts" sprang to mind, haha.

Our big hitters who spent up big on the more hard core mining hardware and power to run it greatly increased the team's daily output.  So the overall BOINC team ranking made an excellent recovery too which is great. From 49th to 14th ain't just whistlin' Dixie, great work. Plus, even if the economics of it were more than a little dubious, those who received the donations from the campaigns were grateful for the support.

However, the interest generated, extra forum posting and sharing of information and experience of those of us crunching BU I probably found the most enjoyable of all.

So crunch on, I've read that Puppy Linux runs in memory and can run from a USB stick so that will be one of my next experiments after the AA.

Think this "big grin" may be big enough, haha.  :BigGrin

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 06, 2017, 10:42:28 PM
I am glad it is over! I posted what I felt about it several times before. I never wanted to run it but could not just sit by and watch the team drop in the standing. Now we can get back to a more-or-less level playing field. It will be interesting to see how things sort.

My new EVGA GTX 1080 SC arrives today.  :dance: Dumping the 2 x 570's.

A toast to the end of BU.  :cheers:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dingo on June 07, 2017, 05:09:09 AM
Sad to see it go and it took a long time to start crunching it.  My numbers now will be back to ridiculously small amounts but that is all I can do.  :rocks
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Hurricane on June 07, 2017, 02:01:19 PM
Impressive looking graphics card Dataman. Should be fast to.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 07, 2017, 03:01:31 PM
Ooh, shiny! v:

(https://i.ytimg.com/vi/vJZLLXSlt88/maxresdefault.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on June 07, 2017, 05:06:46 PM
Greetings All

Yeah once it left the GPU and was only ASIC's, the friendship ended lol.

Oh gawd, look out, DM has another GPU to crunch with, and will do way much better than two GTX 570s lol, well the only person that will keep him at bay on the GPU side of things, will be JN, hopefully he gets well enough to get his GPU's up and crunching as well.

I hopefully would like to add another GTX 980 to the mix, and well could really do a bit of damage lol, but I think I will need to be a bit more patient lol.

Happy Crunching
Mark
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 07, 2017, 11:12:52 PM
That shiny little thing runs Einstein in 14 - 15 minutes. *giggle*

The 2 570's were packed so full of dust it is no wonder they failed. Can't sell them so off to the boneyard they go. *Taps playing in the background*

EDIT: Two fans ARE better than one. My 1070's run stock at 51C. The new 1080 runs at 48C.  :shock The 970's run at 65-70C. This is at factory clock and I have not fiddled with them yet using EVGA Precision. Here I am off topic again.  :wink

Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on June 08, 2017, 06:58:03 AM
Hey DM

I gather that is running two tasks at a time??

Regards
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 08, 2017, 09:06:12 AM
Quote from: tazzduke on June 08, 2017, 06:58:03 AM
Hey DM

I gather that is running two tasks at a time??

Regards
No the GPU utilization is 1.00 on all of them. I tried 0.50 on the 1080 this morning but did not think I gained much and I lose another whole CPU thread that could be doing POGS. I use 0.50 at Milkyway and that works great as as MW does not use much CPU.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: kashi on June 08, 2017, 04:03:59 PM
Good that the new one installed without problem and runs cool. v:

Was a bit surprised at the great variability in Einstein runtimes for the same cards and the sometimes smallish difference between 970s, 980s 1070s and 1080s.

At first thought it was sometimes due to configurations with multiple cards slowing GPU processing down a bit but I've seen some slower times with single cards. And no, not that slow that it is likely 2 or more tasks run concurrently.

Then thought perhaps the speed of the CPU can have an affect because there is a portion of CPU processing after the semicoherent output stage is completed by GPU.

Then realised that various models/brands of the same card type can run at different speeds or boost differently. This could also perhaps be affected by cooling solution used on card, case cooling, room temperature.

Then there's potential CPU starvation issues, some may get a GPU speed up by leaving a CPU core free in addition to the CPU core automatically allocated to GPU tasks.

In some projects the higher model cards don't get to more fully utilise their performance potential unless they run multiple concurrent tasks but Dataman's experience with his 1080 and 2 concurrent means possibly not on Einstein.

So don't know, perhaps it could be a number of those issues. Strange though, I'd expect a much greater difference considering the differences in hardware specification. In other words, would have thought a 1080 or even a 1070 should absolutely blitz my 970 but doesn't seem to be the case on Einstein.

Do know it's hard to research many different configurations now in Einstein as the website has been horridly vandalised so only shows 50 hosts.

Noticed the task list is almost unusable now as well as no task numbers are shown and also no listing of different task types for those who crunch more than 1 type or do Einstein CPU as well.

What is it with these projects completely mucking up their websites lately? Is it some misguided and poorly implemented attempt to make the websites "mobile friendly" or what? Next they'll be hiding wingman details as well on quorum tasks like the horror, the horror of WCG. Bah, humbug.

Running multiple cards can be a pain sometimes and is something I resolved not to do again. I too would choose a single higher model GPU if I was getting stuck right into GPU crunching again. However this all makes me wonder if a couple of lower models such as 1050 Ti or 1060 would give better bang per watt on Einstein than a single top model. Because the electricity bills keep coming in after the cost of GPUs is forgotten.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 08, 2017, 04:25:31 PM
When I had my R9 280x I could run more than 1 WU with Einstein but the models after that could only run 1 WU at a time. It was well talked about on the forum.
I wasn't worried really. 1 WU was enough to occupy most of the card.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: tazzduke on June 08, 2017, 06:17:29 PM
Greetings

Running 2 workunits on my GTX 980, 960 and 950, the 980 blitzs through 4 workunits per hour, whereas the 960 and 950 do 2 per hour.

I think I should put the 960 and 950 back to 1 task, but I cant be stuffed lol.

So in other words the 980 is doing the same work as the 960 and 950 combined, go figure.

Regards
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 08, 2017, 10:53:21 PM
Yep, my 1070's and 1080 are barely outperforming the 970's on Einstein. After the AA I will try MW. I once ran 0.33 at MW and got 3 to run but the card got hot quickly. Think I only ran 6 or 9 wu's that way.
Why does everything have to have a light on it these days? The 10x0's shine like there is a flashlight (torch) inside the case. There should be a "turn off the $#@%'ing light" option.  :rofl: At least they don't blink.  :wink
The cooling is fantastic! I cannot remember a time, when fully loaded, the GPU temps were cooler than the CPU temp's.
I think the 10 series should be awesome at MW, PG and Amicable Numbers. Should be fun.
:greet
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 09, 2017, 03:57:22 AM
Yea they should end up being great at Amicable Numbers & Prime Grid as well but milkyway err probably not.  The Nvidia 10 series double precision math capabilities are even more terrible than usual.  I was going to look up the numbers for you but thought nah.. it would only prove what I already know, and that's they're crap at double precision math. 

Of course they are deliberately crippled by Nvidia so they can sell more multi thousand dollar Tesla's & Quatro's, but somehow that doesn't make me feel any better about it.

You see a month or so ago I bought 1080 ti FE off a friend who had bought one to many and couldn't squeeze em in his flash micro chassis. Soo.. I did him a solid and bought one off him at mates rates.  Well, we are certainly not talking cheap,  cheaper might be a better way to describe it.
 
Anyway as I was getting to,  my 5 year old AMD HD 7970 runs rings around the 1080 ti with Milkyway tasks.  The 7970 is at least 3 times faster,  maybe even more.  Now I wasn't expecting miracles but I didn't expect just how poorly it end up doing.  It's still worth a try though,  you have nothing to lose after all.   

Single precision is what these cards excel in which luckily for us is what most other projects use when using GPU's. So if you really want to stretch it's legs then crunch some collatz & then see the credits fly. The numbers these cards put out is amazing,  OK not anywhere near BU amazing but still it's as close as you'll get post BU anyway.  GPUgrid is another that should be good with the 10 series cards too.

Anyhoo that's enough yabber for me for the night(it's 3.45am here) it's time for bed, all the best  :wavey2:
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: Dataman on June 12, 2017, 11:29:17 PM
Latest news (?) from Henri. I am going to pass for now. Henri seems to be up to something?

http://www.bitcoinutopia.net/bitcoinutopia/forum_thread.php?id=1143#12098


(http://www.taurusarmed.net/forums/attachments/funny-farm/204066d1476218389-darwinian-target-pistol-polish-target-pistol.jpg)
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: chooka03 on June 13, 2017, 04:54:28 AM
LOL  :rofl:
LOVE the picture.
Title: Re: Project Update
Post by: JugNut on June 15, 2017, 02:26:05 PM
Mining makes a less than glorious return. So far just for GPU's(ATI only, cuda soon)  But this time you get to keep most the profit...

http://boinc.gridcomputingcenter.org/forum_thread.php?id=226&postid=1907#1907 (http://boinc.gridcomputingcenter.org/forum_thread.php?id=226&postid=1907#1907)


PS:  Epic pic DM..  :rofl: