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Quote from: Mike Mitchell on January 30, 2023, 08:55:38 PMI'm heading up to the boat for the first time later this week. There is still quite a bit of work required to be thoroughly seaworthy. Mostly, fixing or replacing the engine and replacing the rigging stays (the four heavy wires that keep the mast in place).
Then sail her to Victoria, slip her to dryland, and do some work on the hull. So, 2 to 3 months yet but just getting started will be great and very exciting. 👍
I've already purchased a leather backpack for travelling to and from the boat, a sleeping bag to use until the main cabin is clean and a roving Star Link kit for internet access at sea. ($AU178 a month! The hardware was less than 1/2 price though).
You must be very excited hoping that your first sail to Victoria is a pleasurable trip.
Leaving today, Thursday 9/2/2023 about 10 AM. Well, I'm running late as usual but here's an example of the logistics:
QuoteBus #850
James Street Dandenong to Dandenong Station - Pay by Myki
Departure 10:04 AM Thu, 9 Febuary 2023 - Arrives 10:14 AM
Metro Train
Dandenong Station to Southern Cross Station - Pay by Myki
Departure 10:23 AM Thu, 9 Febuary 2023 - Arrives 11:12 AM
SkyBus: Southern Cross Station to Tullamarine: Nonstop - $18
Departure 11:35 AM Thu, 9 Febuary 2023 - Arrives 12:10 AM
Jetstar: Melbourne Airport to Ballina Byron Gateway Airport: Nonstop - $220
Departure 1:15 PM Thu, 9 February 2023 - Arrives 3:15 PM local time
1:15 PM Melbourne Airport (MEL) Travel time: 2 hr
3:15 PM Ballina Byron Gateway Airport (OOL) Jetstar Economy Airbus A320 JQ 464
Booking reference: NMR2MD
Grayhound: Ballina Tamar St Bus Interchange: Many stops - $60
6:45 PM Tamar St Ballina, NSW - Arrives 8:55 PM
Grayhound GX422
NOTE: Bus arrives after marina closes, may need alternate transport or hotel in Ballina ($175) or Yamba ($229). TBC See also NSW Translink #144: Departs 6:10 AM Arrives 8:15 AM
This is the sort of complexity that put so many other buyers off the boat. It's a long trip, wish me luck. 🤷�♂️🤷�♂️
I hope all goes well Mike, see you soon back on the forum.
Hope the trip goes well. :fingers
I hope you are relaxing in Ballina or another motel somewhere and your trip was uneventful. Good luck
All the best Mike!!
Good luck Mike and smooth seas 🙂
Thought I'd best check-in. The flight was cancelled and they put me in a nice hotel. 4 AM start, then a cab back to the airport. Ended up on the Gold Coast, so all my travel plans were shot.
Completely exhausted by this stage, along with carrying my two carry-on bags. 🤦�♂️ Small airport bus to Ballana Terminus. Fortunately, the bus to Yamba was running late and the bus driver knew a trick so I could book a seat with a credit card after the trip had closed. 👍
Got to Yamba Marina with just enough time to pop out and have a look. It's bigger than I thought. It has some problems I didn't expect and lacks some of the problems I had expected.
One of the staff at the marina has come up with a plan to fix the most important things but it means moving to a more "work" related marina. Yamba caters for some huge yachts, the ones that don't always have sails". As well as trawlers. 👀 Now the prices make sense.
I'll find out on Monday if the boatyard can take it on and how long and how much!
Meanwhile, I'm stuck in Yamba Central accommodations, which includes the Wobbly Chook Brewery and Restaurant. :party1:
It's taken two days of nice meals, good alternate beer and air-conditioned sleep, to overcome the exhaustion and sunburn - now I can climb the stairs without my calves feeling like they are on fire!!
It looks like everything is going ahead on the 1st of March. The 'new' yard will send their tug to tow my boat back to their place.
Did I say why they couldn't fit it in earlier??? They bought a new 900 tonne boat lift. This is a 50 tonne lift, about the size they'll use on my boat and needed time to assemble it and spread out all the parts.
(https://gantrycranesmanufacturer.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/50-ton-travel-lift.jpg)
They'll spray down the hull to clean off the marine growth and check for hull damage and other urgent repairs, Hopefully, they will be able to fix the engine - a replacement is $AU20,000. :shock :shock :shock I've started the registration process, which is only $92. Must be the cheapest thing on any boat. Looked into getting a Victorian boat licence online, and now it's just a matter of when the next session is.
Hopefully, I'll be able to start cleaning the interior and move on board when it gets to the new boatyard. It's a nice hotel and all but it's like paying rent at home, here and for the boat. Okay for the short term, but a month is a bit much.
Oh, started planning the route back on one of the navigation apps. Hmm, discovered I have to learn how to use the app first. Still, it has Yamba and Gippsland Lakes in it but the route is overland! I'm sure that's not right.
Are you getting the hull painted with anti fouling stuff to keep the groth off ?? What type of licence do you need for a sail boat, just a normal one or do you need to become a Captain??
I watch a lot of Youtube videos, lots of time on my hands, of people that travel the world on Motor and sail yachts.
Best of luck with the haulout and the licence.
I might get it antifouled. It just depends on how much work has to be done. If there are just a few rust scrapings, I'll wait until it's back near home and do it myself. If there are heaps, the hull will be mostly stripped and it would be very cheap to get the yard to put a bit more antifoul paint on it and be done with it.
I was surprised that there are no licence requirements for sailing but if the motor is used, then one is needed for that.
It's getting exciting and a little anxious with the boat being lifted in the morning. Trouble sleeping, hence the post at 1:15 AM 🤦�♂️😁
Well it's 2 PM the next day so I hope the haulout went well and they didn't find too many things wrong.
The boat's out of the water and on a hard stand. Getting all the work done that's needed below the waterline.
The engine looks like it may be too far gone. A new one is way too expensive. So a bit of reassessment is needed. Anyone have a budget priced Fordson 75hp tractor motor sitting around?
Hi Mike
With regards to the engine, could you retrofit something else in? Your boat doesn't use a "gearbox" as such, true? So a diesel with around the same cylinders and capacity should make enough power.
Yes, that's an option. The mountings would need to be changed and perhaps a new coupler from the engine to the shaft or gearbox. It requires that for forward, neutral or reverse.
I've uploaded some of the videos to a YouTube channel. Unfortunately, none have been edited, so they're still set to 'private' or 'unlisted'.
So here are the links, sorry about the sound, etc.
MOV033 (https://youtu.be/eVWKXWkS_9Y)
MOV034 (https://youtu.be/T7FXMCEcAdI)
MOV035 (https://youtu.be/E7DMAdE9UYg)
MOV036 (https://youtu.be/8LCJbULfKRQ)
MOV037 (https://youtu.be/urfhghtmbgA)
MOV038 (https://youtu.be/tsWw9IpplG0)
MOV039 (https://youtu.be/U46cEI40uJM)
MOV040 (https://youtu.be/DespFD0KSzY)
Quote from: Mike Mitchell on March 03, 2023, 04:56:42 PMI've uploaded some of the videos to a YouTube channel. Unfortunately, none have been edited, so they're still set to 'private' or 'unlisted'.
So here are the links, sorry about the sound, etc.
MOV033 (https://youtu.be/eVWKXWkS_9Y)
MOV034 (https://youtu.be/T7FXMCEcAdI)
MOV035 (https://youtu.be/E7DMAdE9UYg)
MOV036 (https://youtu.be/8LCJbULfKRQ)
MOV037 (https://youtu.be/urfhghtmbgA)
MOV038 (https://youtu.be/tsWw9IpplG0)
MOV039 (https://youtu.be/U46cEI40uJM)
MOV040 (https://youtu.be/DespFD0KSzY)
Great. I liked those. Looks to be in good shape. Too bad about the engine but I can't help but think you can find something to drop in there. Enjoy!
Quote from: Dataman on March 04, 2023, 05:33:53 AMToo bad about the engine but I can't help but think you can find something to drop in there. Enjoy!
I'm seriously thinking about that electric boat motor conversion kit on AliExpress (https://campaign.aliexpress.com/wow/gcp/tesla-pc-new/index?UTABTest=aliabtest377151_530968&src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbActive=false&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=19374064762&albag=&trgt=&crea=en1005004463546443&netw=x&device=c&albpg=&albpd=en1005004463546443&aff_fcid=aa57b77bac6b4f399d98b09e4bade6a7-1677170699056-00369-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=aa57b77bac6b4f399d98b09e4bade6a7-1677170699056-00369-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=65c14d80684b4d8f825495fa7a2d65c0&wh_weex=true&wx_navbar_hidden=true&wx_navbar_transparent=true&ignoreNavigationBar=true&wx_statusbar_hidden=true&bt_src=ppc_direct_lp&scenario=pcBridgePPC&productId=1005004463546443&OLP=1085100208_f_group2&o_s_id=1085100208). Then worry about extra batteries latter.
Quote from: Mike Mitchell on March 04, 2023, 03:22:27 PMI'm seriously thinking about that electric boat motor conversion kit on AliExpress (https://campaign.aliexpress.com/wow/gcp/tesla-pc-new/index?UTABTest=aliabtest377151_530968&src=google&src=google&albch=shopping&acnt=631-313-3945&slnk=&plac=&mtctp=&albbt=Google_7_shopping&albagn=888888&isSmbActive=false&isSmbAutoCall=false&needSmbHouyi=false&albcp=19374064762&albag=&trgt=&crea=en1005004463546443&netw=x&device=c&albpg=&albpd=en1005004463546443&aff_fcid=aa57b77bac6b4f399d98b09e4bade6a7-1677170699056-00369-UneMJZVf&aff_fsk=UneMJZVf&aff_platform=aaf&sk=UneMJZVf&aff_trace_key=aa57b77bac6b4f399d98b09e4bade6a7-1677170699056-00369-UneMJZVf&terminal_id=65c14d80684b4d8f825495fa7a2d65c0&wh_weex=true&wx_navbar_hidden=true&wx_navbar_transparent=true&ignoreNavigationBar=true&wx_statusbar_hidden=true&bt_src=ppc_direct_lp&scenario=pcBridgePPC&productId=1005004463546443&OLP=1085100208_f_group2&o_s_id=1085100208). Then worry about extra batteries latter.
I would seriously look into this before buying an electric motor. There is a few other things you need as well as the motor and a battery. The add says it's a kit but just shows a motor. You also need something that can propel your boat.
Mike, would something like this work??
https://ecoboats.com.au/ecodrive-new-budget-range-electric-inboard-boat-motors/
https://electricdriveengineering.com.au/electric-sailboat-kits/
Dingo: Yes, that's just the motor. The seller also has a heap of other options, including hybrid diesel-electric. The prices are about half what's available here and they're still using parts made in China. I was thinking of using a few secondhand AGM Deep Cycle Batteries (https://www.aussiebatteries.com.au/deep-cycle/batteries-electrical/deep-cycle-batteries/AGM-deep-cycle-batteries) to start with. Because they are cheaper and the insurance company doesn't have a problem with them (ie fire). Then later get a bunch of LiFeP04 batteries from an Australian manufacturer. Again, for the insurance company but also for ease of warranty if needed.
The motor is the big ticket item in the kit. The controller, throttle, cabling, etc isn't too pricey.
Jave: I think Eco only makes the small inboard electric motors, like 10kW. The boat needs 50+kWs (about 70hp). Local, EU and US suppliers are charging huge sums of money for them.
I hadn't seen Electric Drive Engineering. A quick look shows a 96kW kit, about twice what I need, will be available soon. Like Dingo's suggestion, it's something to keep an eye on though.
Something I forgot to mention earlier, there's a sailing school next to the shipyard. I'll pop in there and see about some basic lessons. May try to anchor nearby if it's free.
If the link works, this is the Find A Crew website (https://www.findacrew.net/boat/409117). It looks very active. Hopefully, someone with experience training yachties can be attracted to the job. 😁
Thanks again, Dingo, for letting my family and non-boinc friends have access to this thread. They like it very much.
My YouTube channel, Sailing Cerberus (https://www.youtube.com/@cerberus7255), is now published but still only shows unedited videos because my laptop can't run the needed editing software.
Any update on the boat?
Quote from: Dingo on June 03, 2023, 12:04:08 PMAny update on the boat?
Was wondering myself.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qGyPuey-1Jw
:rofl:
All the below-water line work is complete but near completion.
However, during the work, I asked for an update on the cost to that point. The yard manager told me high $7,000s so I asked him to complete the job.
Oops, it turned out to be $16,800!!! I had $9,000 on hand, so paid them that. Now, I'm trying to find funding for the remaining $7,800 but getting a loan when I'm on a pension is very hard.
One bank, Bendigo, will entertain the idea but they want to wait a month to see what my spending looks like when I've made the reductions to expenses I said I was making.
So I'm stuck at home for now. The boat is finished and back at Yamba Marina.
At some point, I'll need to look into moving out of my unit and doing something with the things I want to keep. Then moving onto the boat full-time but it will need to be moved from the mooring to a berth. Which will cost more again. 🤦�♂️
I'd love to be able to get it to Yaringa Boat Harbour, which is just up the road from here and would solve most of the problems.
Thanks for the thought Pete but I think repaying a bunch of small loans would be too difficult to do.