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Retired BOINC Projects => SIMAP => Topic started by: Mike Mitchell on August 25, 2009, 04:41:44 PM

Title: Work Available
Post by: Mike Mitchell on August 25, 2009, 04:41:44 PM
Simap usually releases work units at the beginning of the month but today they seem to have released a large amount without warning. So top if you are into the project.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: CairnsByTheSea on November 07, 2009, 07:10:18 AM
Hello All   :wavey2:

There is still some work at SIMAP available for this month - grab some quick!

:aus1:


 :sg1:
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: kashi on November 07, 2009, 04:30:00 PM
Yes I've been doing some SIMAP for a few days. :)

CPU was overheating and has now throttled down to 1.6 GHz, something is awry but it's still limping along. Doesn't affect ATI crunching fortunately. I've bought a Mega Shadow cooler and some Shin Etsu goo and will whack them on tomorrow.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: Dingo on April 01, 2010, 03:01:23 AM
Work available:

Quote

New Workunits in the morning (UTC) of March 31
New Workunits: the calculation of similarities and features of approx. 1,200,000 new sequences, that were imported from protein databases and metagenomes into SIMAP until the end of March, will start in the morning (UTC) of March 31. 30 Mar 2010 5:53:38 UTC Comment

Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: dyeman on July 13, 2010, 01:47:07 PM
Looks like a big month for work in SIMAP - new work still coming strongly.  Team is at position 32 and struggling to maintain even that so please feel free to grab some work while it's there..
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: LawryB on July 13, 2010, 02:11:31 PM
On it.  watch it dry out!!!!!
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: dyeman on July 13, 2010, 11:31:32 PM
Thanks LawryB !
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: kashi on July 13, 2010, 11:47:13 PM
Yeah heaps of work this time, I've added 30K to my total and the work is still flowing. There are still 6 of 10 batches of metagenomes that haven't been distributed yet, so it should go for at least a week more. I decided to try and increase my total on this project while there was much more work available than usual, plus it is another project "in the red".
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: veebee on July 14, 2010, 08:18:30 AM
I hadn't crunched Simap for a cpl years.... since there is so much work available I have put all 16 "cores" of the i7's on it until the work runs out.

... pretty big downloads though ..... luckily I have "unlimited" downloads because of the muck ups lately with my ADSL.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: clownius on July 14, 2010, 12:41:58 PM
Ok ill fall into peer pressure and throw in 8 i7 cores

Edit: Make that 7 cores lol GPU grid is using one core itself due to the 4 WU's at 0.32 CPU's each.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: kashi on July 14, 2010, 04:51:42 PM
Yeh, need to allocate sufficient CPU resources for full speed GPU processing. When I had a single GPU I only needed to leave a core free for MilkyWay or Collatz. Now with a single and a dual GPU I need to allocate 2 CPU cores for Collatz and 3 CPU cores for MilkyWay to avoid a slowdown.

That's the good thing about DNETC ATI, the one task is spread over all 3 GPU cores and suffers almost no slowdown when crunching CPU projects on all 8 CPU cores. DNETC tasks run on dual core GPUs freeze every few hours or so but the watchdog timer ends frozen tasks after 20 minutes so DNETC still has greater output than the other 2 ATI projects.

It's strange with Nehalem class CPUs though, on quite a few CPU projects due to contention issues the throughput is very similar for 6, 7 or 8 cores. When MilkyWay ATI is sucking 3 CPU cores I sometimes run a 2 core VM on AlmereGrid. Running CPU projects on less than the full number of cores reduces the CPU temp quite a bit, I will definitely be making use of this during the heat of summer.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: dyeman on July 14, 2010, 05:49:04 PM
Thanks guys

@veebee the real killer bandwidth-wise is almeregrid.  Downloads are nearly 10 MB and WU runs around 35 minutes.  By my calculations that's about 12 GB download per core per month.  I couldn't work out why my broadband usage suddenly doubled - eventually worked out that almeregrid was the culprit.  Still, all the effort has been worthwhile - 1.3 cobblestones per WU soon adds up and BOINC@AUSTRALIA has already hit 5,000  biggrin
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: clownius on July 14, 2010, 06:06:23 PM
Hmm well so far so good.  Each Core is churning out a WU in around 1hr 15mins and claiming around 24 credits.  Getting around 20credits.  Looks like some of the apps claim really low creits and drag my claim down a bit with them.  Wouldn't call this a fast credit project but ill do what i can for a while.  Haven't crunched it in the past so i will give it some clown love.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: kashi on July 15, 2010, 01:55:42 AM
Good one Clownius.  :thumbsup:

I'm running simap v5.12 tasks on 8 cores at default 2.67GHz claiming about 25 and being granted about 21. Tasks are taking about 67 minutes.

It doesn't seem to make any difference what my wingman claims, I think SIMAP must not use the BOINC benchmark based credit system but have fixed credit calculated somehow according to the estimated amount of work in each task.

So yes credit is not generous by any means but it's better credit and more stable than some other "in the red" CPU projects I've been crunching recently, so even 19.4 cr/hr with stability makes a pleasant change. I had a nice batch of hmmer v5.09 tasks a few days ago, they pay a little better, but unfortunately there is always relatively few of them, usually I don't get any at all.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: veebee on July 15, 2010, 07:30:37 AM
that's strange, I seem to be getting slightly MORE than what I claim.

two i7-920's (1 @ 3.36, 1 @ 3.15) On the faster machine, on a cpl WU's on the first page, it claimed around 21 and got over 29 per WU = but average claim is around 21 and getting around 23.2. WU's are taking about 53 minutes (= 26 / hr/ core).

the second machine however, is not quite as good, but the difference in core speed is obviously the "problem" - taking around 58 minutes, claiming about 19 and getting about 21.3. Thats about 22 cr/ hr/ core.

Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: kashi on July 15, 2010, 02:08:37 PM
You're certainly crunching up a storm on SIMAP veebee, well done.   :thumbsup:
With your help added to other team members contributions the team has now overtaken The Final Front Ear to roar into 31st position.  ;D

The tasks that paid 29 credits were probably hmmer v5.09. Either the last of the batch released a few days ago or a few reissues. hmmer tasks grant about 29 credits, most simap tasks grant about 21, with a few granting 23 or higher.

Never understood why they grant more credit for one type of task compared to another, perhaps when they first calculated how much to grant for each type of task they used an older machine that does not have certain optimisations that are now found in current CPUs. This may cause the hmmer tasks to now complete faster compared to simap tasks than they did in the past. Well that's one possibility anyway.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: teemac on July 15, 2010, 06:44:07 PM
They still have plenty of WU's left, so keep crunching.

This month is really good - work usually only lasts 3 or 4 days - here we are day 15 and still going strong.

 :rocks
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: clownius on July 16, 2010, 12:47:41 AM
It must be time to get the kitchen sink out to start crunching lol

Edit: Had a bit of a scare tonight i almost ran dry of work

My internet connection change over to node went badly with the Exetel connection not going bye bye till a few minutes before 7pm..... was almost like Exetel knew Node provisioning stops at 7pm and wanted to leave me without internet.  Amazingly enough Node fixed it at 11pm tonight after telling me nothing could be done till morning.  Would have run dry withing 2 hours of when it came back up.  Only thing that cooled down was one core on my GPU.  But don't worry i promptly reheated it.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: clownius on July 19, 2010, 11:41:39 PM
Isn't Simap supposed to have limited work lol.  It seems to be becoming a full time project.  Im either going to have to drop it soon or start considering it a normal project (with a resource share) instead of an aa throw everything at it for a short period project.  My ABC@home is suffering.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: dyeman on July 20, 2010, 03:34:44 PM
Yeay - first time I've seen anything like this - was about 10 days last month, but this month looks like they may not finish at all
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: kashi on July 20, 2010, 07:02:35 PM
Isn't Simap supposed to have limited work lol.  It seems to be becoming a full time project.  Im either going to have to drop it soon or start considering it a normal project (with a resource share) instead of an aa throw everything at it for a short period project.  My ABC@home is suffering.

I was thinking the same thing. However there is usually so little SIMAP work and it is running without problem so I will leave it running for another week or so. May as well do a big load this time, the opportunity for ample SIMAP work may not come again for myself or the team. As well as much more work than usual another reason that SIMAP still has work is that there was a gap with no work after the first batch so some regular SIMAP contributors would have thought it was the end of work for the month and returned to other projects.

I understand though, after 3 weeks SIMAP is starting to feel a bit stale for me as I prefer to swap about a bit on CPU projects myself.

After SIMAP I will give some share to POEM to get it up to 100K. Now that my 5970 is churning through the WUs so nicely I have started collecting 100K "scalps" on CPU projects.  ;D

One day I would like to start on getting a few CPU projects up to 250K, possibly ABC and QMC, maybe even a little Climate, haven't done any of that for ages.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: dyeman on November 02, 2010, 07:50:42 AM
Project status

The project has currently no work (see below).
Due to a series of problems with the recent hardware we decided that BOINCSIMAP should be moved to a new location onto new hardware. The project will therefore have no work until January 2011.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: Dingo on November 17, 2010, 11:53:51 AM

Quote

Server migration to Vienna: first step passed
The server has now been moved and preliminary configured in Vienna. It still uses the old project URL and the old website design. During the next weeks, we will test the technical performance and stability on the new hardware. During this time, smaller and larger chunks of workunits will be distributed. Although these are intended for testing, their results will be used and get credits as usual. If everything works fine, we will launch a renewed project website using a new project URL in December, and then start into production again.

best regards
Thomas 15 Nov 2010 19:04:10 UTC Comment




There is work available today.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: WikiWill on August 01, 2011, 08:45:37 PM
Lots more work available today - at least a couple of weeks estimated.  :yahoo:

http://boincsimap.org/boincsimap/
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: DougB on August 02, 2011, 10:36:46 PM
Their estimate has now gone up to 24 days....good if its accurate... :thumbsup:
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: Dingo on August 03, 2011, 12:37:56 PM
Good news as I always have Simap open and ready for work on my PC's  :cheer1:
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: Mike Mitchell on August 03, 2011, 09:37:58 PM
Good news as I always have Simap open and ready for work on my PC's  :cheer1:

Same here.  biggrin Will have until I get at least 100,000 credits. Then another project might need attention.  :wink
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: Scott T on August 03, 2011, 10:01:16 PM
Their estimate has now gone up to 24 days....good if its accurate... :thumbsup:

Awesome.  Was trying to decide what to crunch next as I was getting close to the next 'round' number with POEM (5k left now) - means I don't have to decide until nearly the end of the month  :jester:
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: WikiWill on August 03, 2011, 10:16:39 PM
You'll need to keep a little eye on it Scott - the estimate is down to 16 days now.  Dingo must be snaffling all the work  :rofl:
http://boincsimap.org/boincsimap/ (top right corner)

Oh and congrats Mike on your 100k!  :congrats
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: Dingo on August 04, 2011, 12:06:57 AM

Same here.  biggrin Will have until I get at least 100,000 credits. Then another project might need attention.  :wink

Exactly what I am doing except trying to get to 1 million.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: Dennis on August 04, 2011, 08:14:09 PM
14 days work left.
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: CairnsByTheSea on August 08, 2011, 11:46:16 PM
10 days work remaining -

:aus1:

I'm hoping that I can hold these off!
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: Dingo on August 18, 2011, 12:56:06 PM
Due to regular construction work the power in one of our server rooms will be completely shut down on Aug 24 and 25. This will also affect the BOINC database and web servers. We will therefore shut down the entire BOINC project from Aug 24, approx. 10 a.m. to Aug 25, approx. 3 p.m. During this time BOINCSIMAP will not be available at all.

We apologize for this outage and will keep the downtime as short as possible.

Best regards,
Thomas
Title: Re: Work Available
Post by: WikiWill on August 18, 2011, 09:15:43 PM
Only 4 hours of work left for download from SIMAP, as of now.  If you're running this exclusively, then make sure you have something in the wings when work runs out.

Perhaps consider one of the projects leading in the AA27 poll, which alphabetically are: Einstein, Milkyway, POEM, SETI, and WCG