POEM GPU

[veebee]

Well... all WAS running fine.. but now both cards in both machines are sitting there idle - with POEM, Primegrid, SETI and Moo! all open for tasks... but none are fetching anything and when I click update, they are "not requesting new tasks"...

anyone got any ideas on what might be happpening here ?

[Dingo]

Are you running the Recommended version of BOINC or a Development version ?  Have you tried to stop the client then start it again?  Have you returned invalid work to these projects ?

I really don't know what is wrong but just grasping at straws 

[kashi]

Not running BOINC 7.0.3 are you? Both tazzduke and I had trouble with work fetch with 7.0.3 and tazzduke discovered that BOINC 7.0.2 worked better, so I switched back to 7.0.2 too. It's mentioned earlier in this thread.

I'm still humming along nicely in POEM, my computer is now the top host there.

[veebee]

Unfortuneately,not 7.0.2 for Windows ...

[kashi]

Unfortunately not what? I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Download:BOINC - Windows 64 - 7.0.2

[veebee]

Unfortunately not what? I don't understand what you are trying to say.

Download:BOINC - Windows 64 - 7.0.2

Thanks Mate - downloading now - but 7.0.2 is still not there at Berkely (at least I cannot see it on their downloads page).. and 7.0.3 is no longer the latest beta version... 7.0.8 is...

[kashi]

At Berkeley? You mean the BOINC download webpage I assume. I wouldn't know what is there, I rarely go there. I always download new BOINC versions from http://boinc.berkeley.edu/dl/?C=M;O=D

Usually wait until someone else has tried a new version first though, sometimes the beta versions are very buggy and get withdrawn.

Just a handy hint with version 7.0.2. Unlike other versions of BOINC I have used it will still download tasks when you have some of them suspended. If you have lots of temporarily suspended CPU project tasks in order to do reissued tasks first or for other reasons, if you click Update you can end up downloading more than your cache is set to.

[veebee]

Hmmm, never seen that download directory before.. thanks, +1 !

so are all the Windows versions there "stable" or tested yet ? as I am still having work fetch issues with these computers at times, with POEM gpu WU's.

Another strange issue, is that seeing as I cannot get POEM work at times (even when the servers say there is work) I will open Moo! up...  the first WU will download, and then sit there ! it wont run...

[owner]

veebee your non running Moo wu's may be something to do with running a development version of boinc.  it runs fine on 6.12.34 but you may require an app-info file to run it on higher versions. 

[Scott]

Just a handy hint with version 7.0.2. Unlike other versions of BOINC I have used it will still download tasks when you have some of them suspended. If you have lots of temporarily suspended CPU project tasks in order to do reissued tasks first or for other reasons, if you click Update you can end up downloading more than your cache is set to.

Can you elaborate on that at all?  Does it download more for the suspended project or the unsuspended one?  If the former, that sounds broken (unless you're just suspending particular tasks rather than the project as a whole), but if the latter, that happens for me and I'm still on 6.10.60 (ie, if I suspend one project, other projects will have tasks downloaded to fill the 'empty' cache).

[veebee]

@ LawryB: Version 7.0.2 on Windows 7 Ultimate x64.

It doesn't so much "stop" processing.. it simply doesn't START ! and this is on BOTH machines of same configuration...

[kashi]

Just a handy hint with version 7.0.2. Unlike other versions of BOINC I have used it will still download tasks when you have some of them suspended. If you have lots of temporarily suspended CPU project tasks in order to do reissued tasks first or for other reasons, if you click Update you can end up downloading more than your cache is set to.

Can you elaborate on that at all?  Does it download more for the suspended project or the unsuspended one?  If the former, that sounds broken (unless you're just suspending particular tasks rather than the project as a whole), but if the latter, that happens for me and I'm still on 6.10.60 (ie, if I suspend one project, other projects will have tasks downloaded to fill the 'empty' cache).

No it's project specific, for example if I have some WCG tasks suspended, BOINC 7.0.2 will still download more WCG tasks. With previous BOINC versions I used if you had some tasks suspended for a project, BOINC would not download any new tasks for that project.

[kashi]

Hmmm, never seen that download directory before.. thanks, +1 !

so are all the Windows versions there "stable" or tested yet ? as I am still having work fetch issues with these computers at times, with POEM gpu WU's.....

No definitely not all stable versions, versions get posted there as soon as they are released for testing. That's why I said "Usually wait until someone else has tried a new version first though, sometimes the beta versions are very buggy and get withdrawn."

As for the work fetch issues I worked out the trick with the new BOINC 7.x.x versions. It goes on your "Connect about every x.xx days" setting now. In other words if you leave that value at zero as was previously recommended for an always on connection BOINC will not fetch any tasks until your cache is dry, no matter how high you set your "Additional work buffer" setting.

So because of the current trickle feed of the POEM server, I have set "Connect about every" to 9 days and "Additional work buffer" to 10 days. I have also set <report_results_immediately>1</report_results_immediately> in a cc_config.xml file. So now BOINC asks for new POEM tasks every time one completes. It causes all my running GPU and CPU tasks to go into "High Priority" mode, but none are starting out of order so far so no harm done there. I have to put the values back to 1 day once a day and resume work fetch for WCG to keep a 1-2 day cache there. DNA@Home is self limiting to 4 tasks per CPU so that is no trouble when/if work becomes available again. If they ever fix up the POEM server BOINC will download a day's quota of tasks, probably 500-600 but that won't matter as my GPU will gobble that many up in about 4 days and there's no quorum so I won't hold anyone up.

[veebee]

I have Moo! running fine on this machine (with  6950/4770 cards) by going back to version 6.12.34, so no real problem there - though i would rather run POEM , both for the credit and the science.

My other i7 is still running 7.0.2 and I just modified the cc_config file as per Kashi's post (added the "report_results_immediately" line) , did a restart of the client and suddenly there were 3 POEM Wu's crunching, though I think they were hidden in there somewhere.. somehow, as they were all at different run-times...

have suspended Primegrid on that machine until I see if POEM will send down some more work..

[veebee]

I have given the machine running client 7.0.2 well over 24 hours now but it only downloads 1 POEM WU at a time.. and THEN, it doesn't even report it straight away.. I am not sure how long it takes to go and report it, but I end up doing it pretty much every time.

I edited the cc-config file as per your advice Kashi, in the hope that THAT was why I was not getting work, yet when I get the BOINC client to "read config file", the event log gives me a worrying "no config file found, using defaults". It is in the correct BOINC directory...cannot work out why it is doing it.

I read your post/ reply to someone on POEM's site regarding the "your app_info file doesn't not conatain..." and noted what you said about that meaning that there were no work units to "get", but how is it that with pretty much the same settings you are making a killing there at POEM and I cannot get any work  ?

Also have the app_info.xml file in the POEM folder....

nothing is working anymore, so I am going back to 6.12.34 I think... and run Moo!... sadly, it is not the type of project i would prefer to run, but there is pretty limited choice for GPU's.